Unprofessionalism

[ttm269]

My exchange with a famous provider. Am I wrong for thinking his response was very unprofessional.

[craigville beach]

just walk away,  not worth getting all worked up about it.  

[+ The Big Guy]

You dodged a bad experience.   

[builder boy]

Totally agree.    

[Trick]

Could it have changed the way the exchange went if you started with why you were interested in a 30 minute meeting?

[Asterisk]

Welcome to the forum, provocateur.

How many providers have you hired for 30 minutes?

He told you his rate for anything up to one hour:  $300.

I think the provider dodged a bullet.  And makes logical arguments substantially better.  And isn't the one who feigned offense or false indignation when called out.

He should've deleted without responding.

 

[BtmBearDad]

I’m in complete agreement with @Asterisk. 

How many well regarded, well reviewed providers thru the years, on the current and previous iterations of this forum, have discussed how much time is wasted by “potential clients” trying to haggle them on price, only to get abuse - not dissimilar to what this provider received. 

I am not aware of any professional provider who offers 30 minute pricing/sessions. That’s more the realm of curb crawling. 

As stated in the previous post, in my opinion it was the provider who was the one that dodged a bullet here. 

[ChasingGirth]

My 2 cents, it is unprofessional on your part to ask an escort what is the rate for 30 min knowing that it’s always minimum an hour. With all my respect, one advice for you, if you want an escort to take any of your request seriously never ask for 30 min. This sounds ridiculous. 

[LookingAround]

You were the one in the wrong not the escort. 

[DMICS]

3 minutes ago, BtmBearDad said:

I am not aware of any professional provider who offers 30 minute pricing/sessions. That’s more the realm of curb crawling. 

I've never asked for it but I've definitely been offered 30-minute sessions as an option by a few providers. Some reputable guys, some I'd consider the "Millenial Gen-Z provider" where everything is on the fly and they don't go about the business in the standard professional way. 

Guess it depends on what you're looking for. Also I recognize over here where I live the "standard" is throw out the door sometimes. 

[ttm269]

10 minutes ago, BtmBearDad said:

I’m in complete agreement with @Asterisk. 

How many well regarded, well reviewed providers thru the years, on the current and previous iterations of this forum, have discussed how much time is wasted by “potential clients” trying to haggle them on price, only to get abuse - not dissimilar to what this provider received. 

I am not aware of any professional provider who offers 30 minute pricing/sessions. That’s more the realm of curb crawling. 

As stated in the previous post, in my opinion it was the provider who was the one that dodged a bullet here. 

We clearly have different experiences. I have hired many providers for 30 mins on our first-time session. And in my experience, many providers usually have rates for 30 mins. Of course, there are a few who say at least an hour. If he said it was 300 for 30 mins, I would still pay it! I just wanted to know his rate for 30 mins, whatever it was. I ask for 30 mins for my first time with any provider because personally, I think an hour is too much. With time, when I’ve had multiple experiences with the same provider and we have great chemistry, I then request an hour or more with them because I’ve formed a connection and would love to spend more time with them. I’m never comfortable spending a whole hour with someone for the first we meet. Just my personal preference. And again, there are many well-experienced providers who I’ve spent 30 mins with. So I don’t really know where this “no provider offers 30 mins” is coming from lol.

Edited March 27, 2023 by ttm269

[Lazarus]

Most of the time I can easily be out in less than an hour, unless I find that I’m really not feeling the escort once I meet him & it takes me a long time to come or don’t come at all during the appointment. I would never ask an escort if they have a 30 minute rate. 

[LookingAround]

1 minute ago, ttm269 said:

We clearly have different experiences. I have hired many providers for 30 mins on first-time. And in my experience, many providers usually have rates for 30 mins. Of course, there are a few who say at least an hour. If he said it was 300 for 30 mins, I would still pay it! I just wanted to know his rate for 30 mins, whatever it was. I ask for 30 mins for my first time with any provider because personally, I think an hour is too much. With time, when I’ve had multiple experiences with the same provider and we have great chemistry, I then request an hour or more with them because I’ve formed a connection and would love to spend more time with them. I’m never comfortable spending a whole hour with someone for the first we meet. Just my personal preference. And again, there are many well-experienced providers who I’ve spent 30 mins with. 

Well now you have feedback that — especially to a well known escort who presumably is in demand — that comes across as cheap and asking for a discount. I’m surprised he even responded to you. 

[ttm269]

7 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

Well now you have feedback that — especially to a well known escort who presumably is in demand — that comes across as cheap and asking for a discount. I’m surprised he even responded to you. 

I think you are missing a point too. I’m not upset by the fact he doesn’t offer a 30 min rate. Like I said, I have had some providers say they don’t offer 30 mins. Totally fine. My issue was with the way he responded (with the whole $60…10 mins comment). He could’ve ignored or responded in a more decent way. Nothing wrong with being kind and professional in the way you communicate with people. It’s common human decency. Seems to me like you all are excusing his toxicity by chastising me for asking an innocent question. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by ttm269

[BtmBearDad]

4 minutes ago, DMICS said:

I've never asked for it but I've definitely been offered 30-minute sessions as an option by a few providers.

I think that makes a huge difference, as it’s coming from the provider vs a query from a “potential client”. In the latter, it does across as one is looking for full service on the cheap. 
 

6 minutes ago, ttm269 said:

We clearly have different experiences.

Clearly. In my 20 plus years engaged in this hobby, and having engaged gents in multiple states, multiple countries, multiple continents I’ve never engaged one who advertised 30 minute rates - nor would I want to. 

[LookingAround]

2 minutes ago, ttm269 said:

I think you are missing a point too. I’m not upset by the fact he doesn’t offer a 30 min rate. Like I said, I have had some providers say they don’t offer 30 mins. Totally fine. My issue was with the way he responded (with the whole $60…10 mins comment). He could’ve ignored or responded in a more decent way. Nothing wrong with being kind and professional in the way you communicate with people. It’s common human decency. Seems to me like you all are excusing his toxicity by chastising me for asking an innocent question. 

You’re missing the point. He responded as he did because you came across as cheap the way you approached a well known and popular in demand escort with the first words out of your mouth being “Do you have a 30 minute rate?” You’re missing the point here. Read others’ posts above and try to get it. 

[RadioRob]

You asked if he had a 30 minute rate and he quoted 300. He clearly did not. 

At that point, you should have simply moved on if that’s what you wanted.  My personal stance is that I don’t negotiate pricing. If they give me a rate I don’t like I simply say thanks anyway and move on. 

Also moved this to the Lounge as it’s more of a general discussion rather than info about a specific person, etc. 

[Asterisk]

1 minute ago, ttm269 said:

I think you are missing a point too. ... My issue was with the way he responded (with the whole $60…10 mins comment). He could’ve ignored or responded in a more decent way. Nothing wrong with being kind and professional in the way you communicate with people. It’s common human decency. 

I think he was much more polite to you than your implication was to him.  

To spell out his response, he said, "My value is not just your clockwatching minutes, but also the time to prepare, to look my best, a hundred other things that are included in that price and that can't be chosen a la carte."

Maybe he should have said, "Sure, but I won't prepare first.  Meet at yours.  My travel time included within those 30 minutes."

[Trick]

1 hour ago, ttm269 said:

If he said it was 300 for 30 mins, I would still pay it!

Why not just book him for an hour for 300 then leave after 30 minutes? 

[Rudynate]

Providers don't have much patience with guys who they decide are time wasters.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, ttm269 said:

My exchange with a famous provider. Am I wrong for thinking his response was very unprofessional....[?]

 

Essentially, yes. The only thing I suppose he could have done differently (which I would have done in his place), was that when you asked "Do you have a rate for 30 mins" (again without a question mark, something you seem to dislike), he could have simply replied "No. I have a 60 minute minimum." There was just a hint of unnecessary sarcasm in this response. That being said, once he made his position clear, which it was, your whole tirade which began with "I'm busy at work..." was definitely not polite, and seemed to be a complete blow-off. And then you kept going. I'm curious how you would have responded had his reply been as I suggested (No, I have a 60 minute minimum) instead of "300." 

While I have on occasion seen escorts advertise a rate for 30 minutes, this is an exception. Probably best to avoid asking if it's not something the escort mentions. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Unicorn

[+ APPLE1]

I think the provider could have responded more appropriately by saying something like "I don't do less than an hour meeting." However, just because someone throws the bitchy ball, it doesn't require that you catch it and throw it back. Personally, I always find that dodging it keeps internal strife down.

On that note, I would have respond with something like "I am busy at work and only have 30 mins. I was hoping for a 30 min, $250 session. If that doesn't work for you, I understand."

[Jamie21]

I’d say you’re both at fault. He was rude and you haggled over price. 
His rate is 300. That’s it, the starting rate. Looks like from the exchange that he expects to bottom. So he has to prep etc whether you book 30 mins or 3 hours. 
I don’t take bookings for less than an hour. It’s just not worth it and it seems that’s his view too, it’s not unusual. Often clients looking for half hour sessions are the same ones who haggle over price. Most guys I know will take a very dim view of haggling. It’s like saying to the provider “you have valued yourself at X per hour but I don’t think you’re worth that so I’m offering Y per hour”. That’s a poor start to what you hope will be a good session. For this reason, as soon as a client questions my rate I know for sure that they won’t book because I’m not reducing it nor am I going to do anything to facilitate the booking. That’s what he did….his response was that of someone who has already decided you’re not the type of client he needs. He could have been a little less blunt: “Sorry, I don’t do anything for less than $300”. 

[+ Lucky]

I think that the OP only wanted responses that supported him.

[+ DrownedBoy]

Don't ask for less than an hour.

It sounds cheap and tacky.