Spiritualadvisor Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/new-evidence-microbiome-depression-gut-bacteria/ Edited December 8, 2022 by Spiritualadvisor pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 9:29 PM, Spiritualadvisor said: And some might not kiss because they are acutely aware that kissing someone who suffers from depression for example can infect them with this and other psychiatric disorders You can easily delete your posts if there are errors in them. Just click the three dots (...) in the upper-right corner of the post and then select Delete. Edited December 10, 2022 by Marc in Calif maninsoma, Jamie21, + StLouisOct and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritualadvisor Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 12:28 PM, Marc in Calif said: You can easily delete your posts if there are errors in them. Just click the three dots (...) in the upper-right corner of the post and then select Delete. Is there an error? It’s seems to me that there is evidence indicating that kissing people who have these bad bacteria in their system poses a risk to getting infected with all types of diseases, illnesses, and mental health issues. I know people who have unprotected sex because they are on prep without realizing that there are many STDs that prep does not protect against. It’s the same with kissing. It is better to prevent the horrors that come with ill health. + KensingtonHomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Spiritualadvisor said: Is there an error? The errors are on the first page of this thread. You posted three times in a row until you managed to successfully add the link to an article. You can easily delete the first two unsuccessful posts that have broken links to that PDF. Edited December 11, 2022 by Marc in Calif Spiritualadvisor and Dr.Daddy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 So when you approach an escort who says in his profile that he is into kissing, and tell him specifically that you are also interested in that, so you make the appointment only to find out that his idea of kissing is a lackluster dry kiss, you wonder why he didn't just say no to the appointment. This happened to a friend recently. liubit, Marc in Calif, peter831 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glennnnn Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Yes!! No tip if he fails to provide promised kissing. Just say no up front. simple Edited December 12, 2022 by glennnnn Marc in Calif, + Lucky and liubit 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This is why I always talk to providers about kissing before I hire. A RM said he was into kissing, but when I told him I was into that, he replied thus. Needless to say, no hire. Well my rates start at 300/hr….. and kissing donations are per kiss at 50/per or flat rate of 200/hr + KensingtonHomo, NJF, BuzzLiteQueer and 9 others 6 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: This is why I always talk to providers about kissing before I hire. A RM said he was into kissing, but when I told him I was into that, he replied thus. Needless to say, no hire. Well my rates start at 300/hr….. and kissing donations are per kiss at 50/per or flat rate of 200/hr Ugh, if he’s charging extra for kissing I can imagine how passionate those kisses would be. Why do guys even offer kissing if they can’t do it as an integral part of the session for no extra fee? It’s like serving soup without a bowl. Rod Hagen, + Vegas_Millennial, thomas and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 9:16 PM, DrownedBoy said: This is why I always talk to providers about kissing before I hire. A RM said he was into kissing, but when I told him I was into that, he replied thus. Needless to say, no hire. Well my rates start at 300/hr….. and kissing donations are per kiss at 50/per or flat rate of 200/hr Kissing "donations"?? That's a new one on me. As you write, NO SALE + DrownedBoy, + KensingtonHomo and TorontoDrew 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) People talk themselves in circles about providers who don't kiss. They don't kiss because they'd rather not be doing what they're doing. I have neither patience nor sympathy for providers who don't kiss and yet expect to stay in the game. Edited January 2, 2023 by Rod Hagen + KensingtonHomo, spidir, + DrownedBoy and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/11/2022 at 10:57 AM, Spiritualadvisor said: I know people who have unprotected sex because they are on prep without realizing that there are many STDs that prep does not protect against. Wait is this true? There are adults who don't know they can get STDs when they stop using condoms? They, what, slept through every health class ever? spidir, Spiritualadvisor and Medin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Rod Hagen said: People talk themselves in circles about providers who don't kiss. They don't kiss because they'd rather not be doing what they're doing. I have neither patience nor sympathy for providers who don't kiss and yet expect to stay in the game. It is the sine qua non of sex work. thomas, spidir and Rod Hagen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Jamie21 said: It is the sine qua non of sex work. I love a man who knows his Latin. Rod Hagen, Marc in Calif, pubic_assistance and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Rod Hagen said: Wait is this true? There are adults who don't know they can get STDs when they stop using condoms? They, what, slept through every health class ever? This is a common misconception. The reporting on HIV/AIDS has been so widespread that many think it's the only STD that must be avoided. My doctor said there is a rise of syphilis (some resistant to drug treatment) among gay men for this very reason. And chronic syphilis has a house of horrors all its own: blindness, insanity, infertility impotence. Wearing a condom faithfully is so simple yet resistance to it continues.... Spiritualadvisor, pubic_assistance, TorontoDrew and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I don’t blame any escort who does not want to kiss. I rarely kiss people & would never agree to kiss just anyone. YUCK! Medin, pubic_assistance, Spiritualadvisor and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 23 hours ago, Lazarus said: I don’t blame any escort who does not want to kiss. I rarely kiss people & would never agree to kiss just anyone. YUCK! It's not a matter of blaming an escort for not kissing. And it's not that I randomly kiss any man. Oral hygiene and condition of teeth are are essential points. I considered hiring a big beefy specimen this afternoon. He responded "no" when I asked if he kisses. I thanked him but no sale. I suppose I'd like the option for kissing to occur if I feel so moved. liubit, TorontoDrew, thomas and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cany10011 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 9/25/2022 at 5:07 AM, Jamie21 said: Fresh breath is extremely important! I always use mouthwash before seeing clients, even if it’s not going to involve kissing (I love kissing but some clients don’t want it) there’s times your face is close so it’s important to smell fresh. Some people are naturally clumsy and that goes for kissing too. I agree with @Shawn Monroe that some guys kiss badly, maybe because they’re inexperienced at it. I’ve had clients lunge at me mouth open which is quite disconcerting. Those guys tend to be over excited even from the start so it’s challenging to control the situation. Say we have 90 minutes and 10 minutes into the massage they’re wanting to kiss and are ready to cum. Cool down!! I have a client who was like that every time, he would turn up so aroused and liked to start with a kiss and that got him even more excited. I suggested a way for him to better enjoy the massage. Now he unloads in my mouth at the start, we kiss and share his load, then he’s ready to relax for the massage. It’s a happy starting (he gets a happy end too). Unloading in your mouth sounds extremely erotic... sounds like what my favorite providers like to do for me too Jamie21 and TorontoDrew 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Oral (and bodily) hygiene is essential for kissing. Personally, I make sure I've flossed after my last meal (but several hours before the session), then brush my teeth beforehand, then always leave mouthwash sitting around to refresh during the session. I always supply my guest with a complementary bottle of mouthwash to be careful. An ex once kissed me right after a meal without brushing his teeth, and my reaction wasn't very good 🤢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 6:05 PM, misterhumphries said: It's not a matter of blaming an escort for not kissing. I blame them. Medin, + nycman, thomas and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 On 9/24/2022 at 2:00 PM, Marc in Calif said: I can think of many possible reasons for a provider not to list "kissing" as an activity or preference. Can you think of others? * In an open relationship that doesn't allow kissing because it's considered more intimate than oral and anal * Bisexual but doesn't kiss other men * Wants to reserve kissing for only those clients he's attracted to * Afraid of an orally transmitted infection or embarrassed by bad breath (his own or a client's) I've met men who won't kiss because in their mind it's the most intimate he can be with another man. I used to be in the same boat in my 20s...would seldom kiss or make out with another man even during sex where we would give each other blowjobs and rim jobs. Kissing on the mouth was just too personal for me. Now that I'm older and wiser, I'll kiss just about any man as a greeting. (Of course, I would rim just about any man, too 😉) Marc in Calif, + Just Sayin, liubit and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 5/1/2024 at 2:56 PM, Vegas_Millennial said: I've met men who won't kiss because in their mind it's the most intimate he can be with another man. I used to be in the same boat in my 20s...would seldom kiss or make out with another man even during sex where we would give each other blowjobs and rim jobs. Kissing on the mouth was just too personal for me. That would be me. I've had sex with many, many men but there is a tiny fraction who I wanted to kiss. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmichaeliii Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 9/24/2022 at 5:25 PM, ThroatCummer said: I think that the second point is the vast majority. If I had to put numbers on your list of four things, I would say: 5%. 75%. 15%. 5%. Kissing... real kissing... is something very, very hard to fake. You might be 'straight' or not attracted to men, yet always able to get rock hard and fuck. But IMHO, kissing is the real tell when it comes to the provider's true sexual orientation. I started hiring back about six months ago and had a friend of a friend give me some tips before I jumped in these waters. His biggest piece of advice? Make sure your provider is gay or genuinely bi, but you really want someone gay. It'll be way more enjoyable all around. His advice was spot on. I've only since hired five guys. Two bisexual and three gay. Both of the bisexual guys were a bit 'mechanical' in the motions. All three of the gay ones kissed with a fucking passion that made me weak in the knees. That last sentence says it all. I completely agree. TorontoDrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 56 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said: Both of the bisexual guys were a bit 'mechanical' in the motions. Truly bisexual men who have been with women learn that mechanical sex will never keep a woman..so most of the bisexual men I've been with were better in bed. Never mechanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 15 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Truly bisexual men who have been with women learn that mechanical sex will never keep a woman..so most of the bisexual men I've been with were better in bed. Never mechanical. I have been with gay men (providers and not) who were mechanical in bed and bi guys who were great in bed and vice versa. Medin, Your Man in Arlington, thomas and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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