Does the level of "straightness" count against a provider?

[Rick M]

I always cast a suspicious eye at profiles that list orientation as "straight," and pause to give chin-stokes to "bi." ("Ask me" is the worst!) I can only think that a straight man can at best fake interest in another man, or maybe tolerate him. Bi could be anywhere in the intermediate spectrum, and some bi men seem genuinely into the 2-XY scene, while others come across as fussy or incompetent. Do other members of the client community ponder such conundrums, or do you plunge in hoping for the best? Am I unfair in trying to judge based on a very crude yardstick?

[+ purplekow]

I buy Bi all the time.  I am Bi myself though men are my main pleasure these days.  So do not say Bye Bye Bye to Bi Guys.  I also find it fun to get "straight" guys to expand their limits and many times their asses.  But if that does not work, I do not mind being the giver of pleasure as long as in the end, or not, we both are satisfied.  

[xyz48B]

I’m really not interested anymore if a provider lists “straight.” 

[MikeBiDude]

47 minutes ago, Rick M said:

I always cast a suspicious eye at profiles that list orientation as "straight," and pause to give chin-stokes to "bi." ("Ask me" is the worst!) I can only think that a straight man can at best fake interest in another man, or maybe tolerate him. Bi could be anywhere in the intermediate spectrum, and some bi men seem genuinely into the 2-XY scene, while others come across as fussy or incompetent. Do other members of the client community ponder such conundrums, or do you plunge in hoping for the best? Am I unfair in trying to judge based on a very crude yardstick?

You will get a plethora of opinions on this….it has been discussed many, many times. Many interesting and differing positions.

[+ purplekow]

1 minute ago, MikeBiDude said:

You will get a plethora of opinions on this….it has been discussed many, many times. Many interesting and differing positions.

That is what I like best about bi guys, many interesting and differing positions.  

[xyz48B]

2 minutes ago, purplekow said:

That is what I like best about bi guys, many interesting and differing positions.  

I’ve always said “Bi now. Gay later.” 😂 

[pubic_assistance]

In my experiences, bisexual doesn't make you any LESS attracted to men, but you are additionally attracted to women.

"Str8" providers, however run the gambit from closet cases to out-n-out con artists who use the straight-boy fantasy to get you to offer extra cash for extras that are never gonna happen...because they did explain to you that they are straight. 

Edited March 10, 2022 by pubic_assistance

[Guest]

A straight man is not going to be able to get into it like a gay or bi man can. I can't remember when I last hired a straight man. If I saw that, I'd usually look elsewhere.

[+ Lucky]

I have always considered myself 100% gay, but the local weather woman is hot and I do check her out, see what she's wearing etc. I don't think I would get naked with her, but does that make me 99% gay?

[+ WilliamM]

8 hours ago, Unicorn said:

A straight man is not going to be able to get into it like a gay or bi man can. I can't remember when I last hired a straight man. If I saw that, I'd usually look elsewhere.

There are dozens and dozens  of exceptions to that so called  rule.

Not even counting my long time former neighbor who usually was just wearing underpants when I saw him in his apartment or hanging clothes out to dry.

Edited February 21, 2022 by WilliamM

[+ azdr0710]

34 minutes ago, WilliamM said:

 

Not even counting my long time former neighbor who usually was just wearing underpants when I saw him in his apartment or hanging clothes out to dry.

But were they Hanes boxers or Andrew Christian thongs??!! 😀

[xyz48B]

I didn’t know it was a rule! 🧐 

[Rudynate]

I don't see why a straight guy, with sufficient motivation, couldn't perform.  This is all theory mind you, because I have never hired a guy who identified as straight.  I do hire bi, and I have, many times, had unpaid sex with married guys on the DL.  In general, escorts can do what they do well, I think,  because they are skilled at managing their mindset.  They often say, "Your being turned on to me turns me on."  This is a conducive mindset.

I don't see why a straight guy wouldn't be capable of adopting a similar mindset.   He would have to have overcome the reflexive revulsion over male-on-male sex that straight guys are programmed with.  But having done that, why coudn't he get himself into a mental space that allowed him to perform well with a partner of the same sex?

Guys in penal institutions do it all the time.

Edited February 21, 2022 by Rudynate
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[+ WilliamM]

1 hour ago, azdr0710 said:

But were they Hanes boxers or Andrew Christian thongs??!! 😀

Who cared?  I was checking his very  nice butt!

[xyz48B]

1 hour ago, Rudynate said:

I don't see why a straight guy, with sufficient motivation, couldn't perform.  This is all theory mind you, because I have never hired a guy who identified as straight.  I do hire bi, and I have, many times, had unpaid sex with married guys on the DL.  In general, escorts can do what they do well, I think,  because they are skilled at managing their mindset.  They often say, "Your being turned on to me turns me on."  This is a conducive mindset.

I don't see why a straight guy wouldn't be capable of adopting a similar mindset.   He would have to have overcome the reflexive revulsion over male-on-male sex that straight guys are programmed with.  But having done that, why coudn't he get himself into a mental space that allowed him to perform well with a partner of the same sex?

Guys in penal institutions do it all the time.

Because as @pubic_assistance said, a lot of the straight providers are really only there to make a buck off horny gay guys. They might even get some sort of hetero-oppressive satisfaction out of it even, fucking gay guys for money.

 

[Rudynate]

That's a separate issue.  I don't doubt that many or most of the providers advertising that they are straight aren't who they say they are for one reason or other.  But there are notable exceptions  e.g. pro bodybuilders who make their limitations crystal-clear from the very start.  There is also one very well-known guy, I believe in Philadelphia, beautifully-built, a total stunner, who is married to a woman and who makes it very clear to his clients that he is straight.  He has a very loyal following, and if I lived closer to Philadelphia, I would happily join it - He basically will do damn near anything with a client - almost no limitations. I don't offhand, remember his name.   Of course, he may not be straight, but I take people at face value. In my book, a guy who says he is straight is straight.   To me, he is one of those men I talked about who is able to manage his mindset very skillfully.

[+ Lucky]

Sauna guys in Rio often say that they are straight. Then, you go into the room...

[+ azdr0710]

I've mentioned before here that one dude I met with a few times listed "straight" in the 'orientation' field of his RM profile.... he married his boyfriend a few months later.....

I really don't pay much attention to that orientation field!.......it's better to communicate honestly and respect limits, if any.....

[jeezifonly]

Straight, straight-acting, straight-looking…I think if I were hiring someone to take on a trip, or as a date to a funeral, it might matter.

If hiring for a goal-oriented hour or two, so long as the provider has the desired physical attributes and a kind demeanor, he can spill his bobby-pins all over the place, I don’t care.

Some of the very best sexual experiences in my life were with total sissies who combined compassion and passion. And endurance… 😛

There’s certainly enough men out there to make the straight-chasers happy. We all have different definitions of win/win!

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Rudynate said:

I don't see why a straight guy, with sufficient motivation, couldn't perform....

The motivation needed can come in a number of forms. I remember the last time I hired a straight man, he wanted to watch straight porn while we were doing it. Not a great experience, so I've limited to gay and bi from then on. 

[Rudynate]

The motivation was the cash.  The porn was a feature of a conducive environment. 

I wouldn't hire a straight guy if I didn't think he was a good enough actor to give me his entire focus and convincingly act like he was enjoying it.  Same way with a gay provider - if he doesn't focus on me and act like he's enjoying it, he's definitely not a repeat. 

I  don't need to fall in love or anything, but I need some connection with a provider. I converse with new people pretty easily, so it isn't hard for me to find that.  If it wasn't possible because he needed to be watching porn or something like that it wouldn't sit well. I think I would apologize and say it wasn't working and send him on his way. 

[xyz48B]

4 minutes ago, Rudynate said:

if he doesn't focus on me and act like he's enjoying it, he's definitely not a repeat. 

That’s part of the reason why I think more than a few perfunctory setup texts with a provider is acceptable, especially for a BFE. It doesn’t have to be a huge back-and-forth, but some level of something that determines some level of compatibility isn’t unreasonable. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I have no desire to have sex with a straight man. I gave some blow jobs to straight guys when I was a teenager. That was enough. 

Plus, I want my queer money to go to other queers. 

[Rudynate]

2 hours ago, xyz48B said:

That’s part of the reason why I think more than a few perfunctory setup texts with a provider is acceptable, especially for a BFE. It doesn’t have to be a huge back-and-forth, but some level of something that determines some level of compatibility isn’t unreasonable. 

In my initial contact - I lay it all out - who, what, when, where, what.  "Who" includes my age, weight, height, pic sometimes.  The quality of their answer lets me know if I want to go through with it.

[marylander1940]

On 2/20/2022 at 5:31 PM, xyz48B said:

I’m really not interested anymore if a provider lists “straight.” 

Yes, I have the same feeling I'd rather hiring a masculine gay man.

5 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

I've mentioned before here that one dude I met with a few times listed "straight" in the 'orientation' field of his RM profile.... he married his boyfriend a few months later.....

I really don't pay much attention to that orientation field!.......it's better to communicate honestly and respect limits, if any.....

Exactly sometimes calling themselves straight

is nothing but advertising. Allegedly BI guys also do it. 

Some gay men like the fantasy of hiring a straight guy, others simply want to hire someone who won't be fucking their hot young neighbors later on. 

I know many gay men who would never fuck a woman even if she was paying them, I truly admire real straight men who fuck gay men for a living. 

 

 

4 hours ago, Unicorn said:

The motivation needed can come in a number of forms. I remember the last time I hired a straight man, he wanted to watch straight porn while we were doing it. Not a great experience, so I've limited to gay and bi from then on. 

that would be bone killer to me too. At least pretend you're into it and not thinking of boobies, etc.