What do we know about when and how Montreal clubs will reopen?

[twinkboylover28]

On 6/14/2021 at 7:42 AM, EZEtoGRU said:

I don't blame Canada for wanting to be cautious.  Relative to the US, it handled the COVID situation much better during 2020.  With the exception of amping up the development of vaccines, the US management of the pandemic was awful in 2020.  Thankfully the person largely responsible for that is no longer in office.

Thank God for President Trump's Operation Warp Speed and the early vaccine rollout in the USA.

[mike carey]

1 hour ago, twinkboylover28 said:

Thank God for President Trump's Operation Warp Speed and the early vaccine rollout in the USA.

'God' has nothing to do with it.

[twinkboylover28]

1 minute ago, mike carey said:

'God' has nothing to do with it.

Oh Lord.

[EZEtoGRU]

3 hours ago, twinkboylover28 said:

Thank God for President Trump's Operation Warp Speed and the early vaccine rollout in the USA.

Actually,  what you can thank Trump for is a completely botched response to the COVID crisis in the early months of the pandemic.  Entirely mishandled in all respects which has resulted in the US having many of the the worst COVID statistics in the world.  Trump has the blood of hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on his hands.  You can also thank Trump for a large chunk of his followers refusing to get vaccinated.  Many of them still believe that COVID is a complete hoax (just as Trump claimed many times in early 2020).  Trump owns all of that and always will.

As far as the vaccine goes, I largely thank the scientific/pharmaceutical communities.  

I still believe Canada will ultimately get a higher percentage of its population vaccinated than the US.  Just to get somewhat back on topic,  I will add that I hope the border will open to vaccinated tourists sometime before the End of September.  Maybe later this month or early in August...but that might be wishful thinking.

Edited July 9, 2021 by EZEtoGRU

[twinkboylover28]

1 hour ago, EZEtoGRU said:

Actually,  what you can thank Trump for is a completely botched response to the COVID crisis in the early months of the pandemic.  Entirely mishandled in all respects which has resulted in the US having many of the the worst COVID statistics in the world.  Trump has the blood of hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on his hands.  You can also thank Trump for a large chunk of his followers refusing to get vaccinated.  Many of them still believe that COVID is a complete hoax (just as Trump claimed many times in early 2020).  Trump owns all of that and always will.

As far as the vaccine goes, I largely thank the scientific/pharmaceutical communities.  

I still believe Canada will ultimately get a higher percentage of its population vaccinated than the US.  Just to get somewhat back on topic,  I will add that I hope the border will open to vaccinated tourists sometime before the End of September.  Maybe later this month or early in August...but that might be wishful thinking.

Trump derangement syndrome much?

You're the one who brought the topic up in the first place, then get triggered when your silly nonsense gets destroyed on the board.

And thank you for gracing us once again with the presence of the EZ crystal ball. It's more entertaining than online casinos or Nancy Pelosi strolling through China Town at the beginning of the pandemic. 

Given the Delta variant, the border reopening is anyone's guess.

Edited July 9, 2021 by twinkboylover28

[EZEtoGRU]

11 minutes ago, twinkboylover28 said:

Trump derangement syndrome much?

You're the one who brought the topic up in the first place, then get triggered when your silly nonsense gets destroyed on the board.

And thank you for gracing us once again with the presence of the EZ crystal ball. It's more entertaining than online casinos or Nancy Pelosi strolling through China Town at the beginning of the pandemic. 

Given the Delta variant, the border reopening is anyone's guess.

Yawn.  Zzzzzzzzzzz

[Cooper]

Administrator’s Note: Gentlemen, You know the rules,  no politics in the SCF. If you want to discuss politics, take it to the Political Forum. 

[Penn7]

16 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

Huh?  

Canada didn’t have the relevant pharma companies within their borders, so they had to wait for vaccine supply, like a lot of countries. I’d have liked to see us helping them out. 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Penn7

[twinkboylover28]

19 hours ago, MikeThomas said:

Actually, it’s the US that doesn’t want Canadians.  The Trudeau government badly mishandled the vaccine rollout.  They are still trying to reach acceptable levels of vaccination.

Well said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56451810

 

[mcbg22]

17 hours ago, twinkboylover28 said:

Well said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56451810

 

But the US as always been open to Canadians throughout the pandemic. Only entry though the land border was closed. Meanwhile, Canada has been completely closed to Americans throughout the pandemic. Therefore, it is Canada who does not want Americans. 

[EZEtoGRU]

7 hours ago, Penn7 said:

Canada didn’t have the relevant pharma companies within their borders, so they had to wait for vaccine supply, like a lot of countries. I’d have liked to see us helping them out. 

Yes exactly.  I agree on helping them out.  Our first obligation after taking care of our own citizens should be to help out our neighbors Canada and Mexico in getting them vaccines.  

[Luv2play]

On 7/9/2021 at 12:15 AM, SirBIllybob said:

Breaking:

The province is seriously considering the vaccine certification route for bars, clubs, restaurants etc, but likely not before September 1st. It may depend on case incidence rising again as well as evidence that cases are predominantly among the unvaccinated. I think that there would be provisions worked out for natural immunity based on infection and recovery, both that category and other reasons for vaccination exemption documented by one’s physician. 

Are you saying because you were a participant in a blind study dating back to January, you are not eligible to get a vaccination certificate? 

[Luv2play]

On 7/9/2021 at 10:02 AM, SirBIllybob said:

Apart from notions of who wants and who does not want either side entering, and reasons for vaccine uptake acceleration differences, the data as far as net full vaccination to date support this view.

The nation-specific differential is about 48% vs 40%, but Quebec at 35% is way behind about 20 states that have reached a range of 50-75%. But now it’s more about individual willingness than supply or infrastructure capacity. 

I hadn't realized Quebec was behind the national average of fully vaccinated. As far as Canada/ US on this metric, Canada is closing the gap fast and will be ahead of the US in a few weeks. It is already far ahead in single vaccinations and vaccinations per 100,000.

And as far as US is concerned, there are states where the variant is taking off among a low vaccinated population overall.

[Luv2play]

23 hours ago, twinkboylover28 said:

Well said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56451810

 

Quoting a March 14 article is irrelevant. Everything has changed since then.

[Luv2play]

2 hours ago, SirBIllybob said:

Correct. Only approved vaccines are eligible. This backs vaccine trial volunteers into a corner prior to the point at which validation of efficacy and safety translate to official emergency use authorization for their particular studied product, assignment unmasking is optional, and placebo recipients are offered the vaccine regimen. 

I am not complaining. I only expect to be treated like a god in terms of adulation, but not asking for special concrete privileges. I will eventually have certification or maybe in the meantime travel to destinations that accept nucleic acid amplification testing for entry eligibility. 

The UK is the only nation formally that exempts study participants from restrictions that might be imposed on wilful vaccine resistors. Obviously, that only extends domestically and cannot be imposed internationally. 

The conundrum is that gold standard placebo-control randomization trials are  now doomed to participant attrition if not recruitment failure, at least in vaccine-abundant settings. 

If you don't mind me asking, why did you participate in the trials? And how did you get involved in the first place?

[SirBillybob]

10 hours ago, Luv2play said:

If you don't mind me asking, why did you participate in the trials? And how did you get involved in the first place?

Good research science literacy, awareness of emerging trials and study entrance points for vaccine candidates with diversity of technology and less dependent on cold chain, few Canadians participating in the agenda, solid chance of receiving promising prophylaxis months ahead of projected vaccination rollout at the time, confidence in self-efficacy regarding avoiding infection, symbolic reference group affiliation offering a sense of contributing meaningfully and altruistically at an additional level beyond collective behavioural mitigation. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by SirBIllybob

[Luv2play]

3 hours ago, SirBIllybob said:

Good research science literacy, awareness of emerging trials and study entrance points for vaccine candidates with diversity of technology and less dependent on cold chain, few Canadians participating in the agenda, solid chance of receiving promising prophylaxis months ahead of projected vaccination rollout at the time, confidence in self-efficacy regarding avoiding infection, symbolic reference group affiliation offering a sense of contributing meaningfully and altruistically at an additional level beyond collective behavioural mitigation. 

As I anticipated, a number of factors went into your decision to enter the trial. Good for you.

Were you happy with the outcome for you personally and would you do it again if the opportunity arose?

[mcbg22]

Can we go back to discussing Montreal strip clubs?

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, mcbg22 said:

Can we go back to discussing Montreal strip clubs?

They are all open; the question in the thread title is answered. Nothing more to know, at this point, after 12 pages. LOL.

It might be a good idea to start a new topic, such as Montreal Strip Club Reviews. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by SirBIllybob

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

I was hoping to go to Montreal for US Labor Day, but alas I do not think the border will be open by then without mandatory quarantine, so I booked a trip to Chicago instead.

[Luv2play]

8 minutes ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

I was hoping to go to Montreal for US Labor Day, but alas I do not think the border will be open by then without mandatory quarantine, so I booked a trip to Chicago instead.

You may be right but I don't think it's out of the question yet that fully vaccinated American tourists could gain entry to Canada by Labor Day.

[Luv2play]

7 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

You may be right but I don't think it's out of the question yet that fully vaccinated American tourists could gain entry to Canada by Labor Day.

Today the French Ambassador said Canadians with two receipts of a vaccination received at least two weeks ago would be given access to France as of now. They want the same privilege for Frenchmen. I do too, as there are some hotties I would like to see come back.😈

Edited July 15, 2021 by Luv2play
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[LD19847]

Fully vaccinated Americans could be allowed to visit Canada from mid August:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-us-border-vaccinations-1.6105110

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Canada is getting ready to welcome the world again, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau quietly indicated late Thursday as his office disclosed a target of mid-August for when the border might reopen for fully vaccinated Americans.

And if the current vaccination rate remains on its upward trajectory, fully vaccinated travellers from around the world could begin arriving by early September, Trudeau said during a COVID-19 status update with Canada's premiers.

 

 

Edited July 16, 2021 by LD19847

[mcbg22]

https://www.cp24.com/news/canada-aiming-to-allow-vaccinated-americans-into-country-by-mid-august-pm-tells-premiers-1.5511411

[+ SundayZip]

23 hours ago, mcbg22 said:

Can we go back to discussing Montreal strip clubs?

LOL!  I always found it interesting (or maybe myopic??) that so much discussion of anything and everything Canadian -- especially Montreal -- is in the Male Strip Clubs forum.  I mean, there is more to Canada than strip clubs (I think 🤔)