It May Not Bother The Escort...

[+ Gar1eth]

...But it sets my teeth on edge every time I read it.

 

A short email correspondence with an escort -

 

Mr. XXX--your pictures are incredible. One thing when I look at your ad. You can 'dominate' someone because it's a verb as in "Mr XXX dominates everyone he tops." But to describe yourself-you are 'dominant'. "Mr. XXX is an incredibly dominant top. "It's an adjective. You can't be dominate. Well you could be but not according to the rules of English. A lot of ***s do say it. But it is wrong.

 

 

Mr. XXX's response:

 

Thanks,

But I don’t think that matters, who cares.., I been noticed that..

contact me only to set an appointment not for grammar corrections..

Thanks for your concern

 

 

 

 

Exeunt the conversation.

 

Gman

[Mr.E]

Good grammar is sooo sexy!

[YoungAD]

And yet... the escort seems to be the classy one here.

[+ oldNbusted]

[MRJJ]

Grammar does matter.

"It is very different to help your Uncle Jack off a horse than it is to help your uncle jack off a horse!" ;-)

(Sorry, I didn't create this one. I found it, but it does make a good point!)

[+ Gar1eth]

And yet... the escort seems to be the classy one here.

 

@YoungAD, long time ( at least on the threads I've been following lately) no hear from. How the heck are you and your family? I hope it won't be considered presumptuous of me to wish you and them a spectacular autumn.

 

Thinking the best of you, I remain cordially yours,

 

Gman

[MikeBiDude]

@YoungAD, long time ( at least on the threads I've been following lately) no hear from. How the heck are you and your family? I hope it won't be considered presumptuous of me to wish you and them a spectacular autumn.

 

Thinking the best of you, I remain cordially yours,

 

Gman

Gman remains the classy one...

[+ Gar1eth]

Grammar does matter.

"It is very different to help your Uncle Jack off a horse than it is to help your uncle jack off a horse!" ;-)

(Sorry, I didn't create this one. I found it, but it does make a good point!)

 

 

When I first read the second one, I missed that "Jack" wasn't capitalized. I had great fears for the life of the horse. Because with the name capitalized, it could mean that the horse's days are numbered as "Jack@ wants to "off (kill)" the poor horse .

 

Gman

[+ OliverSaks]

Grammar policing is yet another way that we can buttress our shaky selves, right?

 

“On the internet, know-it-alls show off to other know-it-alls that they can differentiate between use cases of “that” and “which.”

...

“Moreover, because young or poor or immigrant populations are often among those who may not conform to traditional English grammar and spelling and punctuation usage, focusing on linguistic deviations can reinforce the barriers of privilege. ”

[+ Gar1eth]

...

“Moreover, because young or poor or immigrant populations are often among those who may not conform to traditional English grammar and spelling and punctuation usage, focusing on linguistic deviations can reinforce the barriers of privilege. ”

 

I'm not saying that grammar can never change. I understand how someone might not understand the difference between "who" and "whom". And I'm one of the ones that can't usually differentiate between "which" and "that". But do we let all standards fall? Who/whom and that/which are somewhat subtle grammar points where the meaning is really obvious no matter which word they use. While the meaning is obvious when confusing dominant/dominate, are we really ok with confusing verbs and adjectives? If I was the parent of a child who used the phrase "I am the dominate boy on our block," aside from wanting to know who and how he is dominating, shouldn't I help him also understand why using the word dominate like this is wrong? I'd say yes. In the same way I wouldn't let him believe that 2 + 2 = 3.

 

Gman

[+ purplekow]

My guess is the response one would get from an escort when correcting grammar in an escort ad, is also going to be the end result Go fuck yourself.

When i was a lad, there was a cigarette commercial for Winston which stated Winston tastes good like a cigarette should. Their follow up ad, in response to the complaints of poor grammar in the ad asked: What do you want good grammar or good taste?

My question to the OP is What do you want good grammar or good sex?

[mike carey]

“Moreover, because young or poor or immigrant populations are often among those who may not conform to traditional English grammar and spelling and punctuation usage, focusing on linguistic deviations can reinforce the barriers of privilege. ”

Alternatively, use of non-standard grammar can be a marker used to filter out people from things like employment. Pointing out deviations from standard grammar can help the person concerned overcome the barriers that its use would otherwise impose on them. Picking the time to offer the advice, or even whether to do so, can be the tricky bit.

[Guest]

When i was a lad, there was a cigarette commercial for Winston which stated Winston tastes good like a cigarette should. Their follow up ad, in response to the complaints of poor grammar in the ad asked: What do you want good grammar or good taste?

What's grammatically incorrect in the sentence "Winston tastes good like a cigarette should." ? And correcting an escort ad's grammar is quite silly.

[+ purplekow]

Alternatively, use of non-standard grammar can be a marker used to filter out people from things like employment. Pointing out deviations from standard grammar can help the person concerned overcome the barriers that its use would otherwise impose on them. Picking the time to offer the advice, or even whether to do so, can be the tricky bit.

As well intended as advice in regard to the importance of reasonable grammar when speaking and when writing may be, it is not at all tricky to figure that a first time contact in response to an escort ad is really not the time for it.

[+ purplekow]

What's grammatically incorrect in the sentence "Winston tastes good like a cigarette should." ? And correcting an escort ad's grammar is quite silly.

It should be Winston tastes good as a cigarette should. General rule: use "like" when there is a noun or pronoun following it but no verb. Use "as" when there is a subject and verb following.

Walk like a man. Walk as a man would walk.

Edited October 2, 2018 by purplekow

[Guy Fawkes]

Dear Sir:

 

I'm willing to discuss my grammar in person at my standard rate of $300/hr. I'll require you to be on your knees and to present a one hour tribute.

 

Yours in dominance,

XXXXX

Edited October 2, 2018 by Guy Fawkes

[+ sniper]

You wrote to someone you weren't hiring to pick at his grammar? What reaction did you expect?

[+ Gar1eth]

You wrote to someone you weren't hiring to pick at his grammar? What reaction did you expect?

 

If I made a major faux pas in a post here, and I'm sure I have, and if someone nicely corrected me, I hope I'd be appreciative. Or same thing if I were advertising.

 

I think I was respectful in my discussion of the bad grammar with him. I didn't use any pejorative language. I'm sure he's most likely seen dominate being used the same way he uses it in other ads. If it were me, and someone pointed out that kind of mistake, I hope I'd use it to correct my ad to put me a step above my competitors.

 

Gman

[+ Gar1eth]

My guess is the response one would get from an escort when correcting grammar in an escort ad, is also going to be the end result Go fuck yourself.

When i was a lad, there was a cigarette commercial for Winston which stated Winston tastes good like a cigarette should. Their follow up ad, in response to the complaints of poor grammar in the ad asked: What do you want good grammar or good taste?

My question to the OP is What do you want good grammar or good sex?

 

It should be Winston tastes good as a cigarette should. General rule: use "like" when there is a noun or pronoun following it but no verb. Use "as" when there is a subject and verb following.

Walk like a man. Walk as a man would walk.

 

To explain a little further-like in English is almost always a preposition when it means 'similar to'. Prepositional phrases the majority of the time contain the preposition, a noun or pronoun object of the preposition, and any modifiers modifying/describing the noun or pronoun.

 

Ex: He has a shirt like mine.

 

Like is the preposition. The pronoun mine is the object of the preposition.

 

As is usually a subordinate conjunction-maybe occasionally a preposition. But when used as a subordinate conjunction, it introduces a clause. Clauses have subjects (nouns or pronouns) and verbs. The fact that a clause has a subject and verb differentiates it from a phrase which usually has only a noun or a verb

 

Ex: Do as I say. Not as I do.

 

The I after as I do is the subject of the clause with so being the verb.

 

Gman

[Guy Fawkes]

You didn't make a major faux pas here... However your interaction with the escort wasn't most delicate way to make a suggestion.

 

How about: "Can I make some suggestions that would improve your advertisement?" on your knees as your polishing his boots.

 

 

 

If I made a major faux pas in a post here, and I'm sure I have, and if someone nicely corrected me, I hope I'd be appreciative. Or same thing if I were advertising.

 

I think I was respectful in my discussion of the bad grammar with him. I didn't use any pejorative language. I'm sure he's most likely seen dominate being used the same way he uses it in other ads. If it were me, and someone pointed out that kind of mistake, I hope I'd use it to correct my ad to put me a step above my competitors.

 

Gman

[Guy Fawkes]

You didn't make a major faux pas here...

 

To explain a little further-like in English is almost always a preposition when it means 'similar to'. Prepositional phrases the majority of the time contain the preposition, a noun or pronoun object of the preposition, and any modifiers modifying/describing the noun or pronoun.

 

Ex: He has a shirt like mine.

 

Like is the preposition. The pronoun mine is the object of the preposition.

 

As is usually a subordinate conjunction-maybe occasionally a preposition. But when used as a subordinate conjunction, it introduces a clause. Clauses have subjects (nouns or pronouns) and verbs. The fact that a clause has a subject and verb differentiates it from a phrase which usually has only a noun or a verb

 

Ex: Do as I say. Not as I do.

 

The I after as I do is the subject of the clause with so being the verb.

 

Gman

[MscleLovr]

I'm intrigued that the escort took the time to respond, and did so in a civil manner.

[+ Keith30309]

I think one way to look at this is that a well intended, helping message was sent to someone thru their primary means of making a livelihood. If someone i didn’t know casually walked into my office while I was trying to make money and wanted to talk about anything other than how I was going to make that money then they might not get my undivided attention.

[bigvalboy]

I'm intrigued that the escort took the time to respond, and did so in a civil manner.

+1

 

My mother was a teacher. There was rarely a time that I would open my mouth that she did not correct my grammar. I understood why, and I accepted it, however this concern and sometimes insistence for good grammar from strangers, on the Internet and elsewhere, from people we've never met, nor likely will, seems odd to me. I don't think I have ever corrected someone's grammar, whether it was in business or socially among friends, and certainly not when communicating by way of email. I think the fact that Gman had good intentions, and yes, was respectful, is not the point. Correcting the escort was simply not his place, especially since he most likely wasn't going to even hire him. It all seems very presumptuous to me to correct a perfect stranger.

 

I hire a lot of boys that have not been in this country a long time, perhaps do not have a lot of education, or where English is not their first language. It just seems a bit elitist to expect more from them than I know they are capable of giving. As I've grown older, more mellow, I have become more concerned about the experience with an escort, rather than how they have chosen to live their life, or how they speak or their ability to construct a sentence. So when I hear someone say, "him and me are going somewhere" I think of my mother, and move on...

Edited October 2, 2018 by bigvalboy

[+ Cash4Trash]

As Mark Twain said in his essay 1601 - "them that would explore a cunt stop not to think the spelling of it".