KensingtonHomo

I haven't had this come up too much, but I think if you're seeing someone weekly or monthly, it's on them to disclose a rate increase. However, if it's been months or a year, I would confirm. We had a regular who has since exploded in porn, and I've been thinking of seeing him again, and I will definitely confirm the rate. 

3 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

As a bottom client, I can feel the difference with a condom and without.  I won't hire an escort if he's going to use a condom (I verify in advance if bareback is okay).  With a hookup, I don't mind if he uses a condom for whatever reason.  I just don't want to pay for that experience.

Interesting. I've never really noticed a difference. 

2 hours ago, nycman said:

Yes and yes.

And yes, I’ve been "condom shamed" by bottoms for using a condom.
I just laugh in their face and leave.
I’m not fucking a moron.

Insane behavior because as a bottom, I generally can't feel the difference. 

His profile suggests English isn’t his first language and just shows his feet (🤮) and a crotch pic. 
 

Edit: I wasn’t logged in. He looks hot but not enough information for me to hire. 

13 minutes ago, MWEHO said:

I had a facial and massage business I opened in 2016 that I had to close this year due to the economy. Many of my clients work in entertainment , so the LA strikes took me out. The economy is proving to still be tough. 

Yes. I have a good friend who is a film editor and the contraction of film and TV production due to the strikes and Marvel bubble are definitely impacting the entertainment industry. And then inflation is hitting us all, which means less disposable income. ☹️

On 4/7/2024 at 4:56 AM, Vulgarii said:

I hate it when clients ask me what my rates are and what kind of massages. Do they just text people without reading anything? I know most, if not all, are not confirming nor testing me.

I’m a client but being asked for information that is clearly available on my business’ website or another document is incredibly annoying. Before I reach out to a provider, I’ve read their profile, reviews and searched here. It’s also why I hate “Ask Me” as a price, because it forces me to ask.

One thing I will generally ask is the rate for erotic massage in case it’s more than what is listed as the base. 

6 hours ago, Italiano said:

"Manscent" is a total turn off for me.

I remember in two occasions, one almost 40 years ago in Milan and one about 20 in Prague,  having invited a GORGEOUS man at my place, and when in bed the unpleasant surprise of a smelly crotch and pits. It was like watching and savoring  a delicious cake but finding a dead fly on it. 🤢

Same. I also find 99% of men’s feet gross. So ads that have guys feet or that pose where they’re smelling their own pits are an automatic “no.”

But I have a general aversion to strong scents of any kind. I don’t mind the slight scent most people have when recently showered but without deodorant. That’s usually how I prepare. But if I was going to be out and then meeting someone later I would put on deodorant. 

That's insane. 

So weird, I was checking out his profile because we're supposed to be in DC at the same time this weekend. I ultimately ruled him out because he's a "total top" and identifies as "straight." No judgement but that's not for me. 

As a bottom, I'm very partial to Hello Cake products. For anal, I love the Tush Cush brand, which is a mix of water-based and silicone. It's very creamy so it doesn't feel slick like water based lubes. It helps me relax and open up more easily. Though we do use Uber lube and Swiss Army as well for jerking off, and I'll use Swiss Army with a lube launcher if I'm with someone who is very hung. 

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Oof, those are all too much for me. 🤣

14 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I am so OCD about being clean for a provider.   It would be mortifying to me to be anything but.  And I am a closeted married man.

I'm sure lots of bi or closeted guys are squeaky clean, but there is at least a lot of cultural conversation about how "straight" men are not good at being clean in their butt. For me, I tend to avoid ass play with any guy who isn't vers or a bottom. Because I've seen even lifelong gay tops be bad at anal hygiene. 

As a client, I would be SO horrified to be anything less than spotlessly hygienic and fresh-smelling. A provider is well within his right to suggest a client rinse off if that's false. 

Do you see a correlation between closeted or married men and the lack of hygiene? 

I've said this elsewhere, but I'm not a big tipper because the provider controls their rate and keeps all of it. I've never had an issue. If a guy blows my mind, I might tip but it's rare. That said, if the hotel parking cost is what puts you over the edge, maybe this isn't the provider for you. 

I’ve paid deposits and will continue to do so for well-reviewed and seemingly established escorts. I’ve never once been burned. 

Perhaps I’ve been incredibly lucky or very good in my vetting. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a provider to request a nominal ($25-$50) deposit. Generally, it’s only required the first time. 

And if you are using Venmo or PayPal, it often requires the escort to reveal their actual name or business name. So they’re also exposing themselves. 

I'm biased because I wear a cross 24/7 and only take it off if I'm being massaged. But I don't mind any jewelry as long as it doesn't cause physical discomfort. I agree that a nice chain between pecs can be hot. 

14 minutes ago, Mydavid said:

A lot of escorts are not willing to French kiss either.

Really? That hasn't been my experience. 

51 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Why does it not surprise me that someone named @Becket is searching for Jesus. 😄

 

BACK TO TOPIC - How common is it for masseurs (not escorts) to be willing to French kiss?

I’ve only experienced this a few times. Even a highly erotic massage usually doesn’t include making out. 

I agree with @Thique. Plenty of fish. 

47 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

My life experience is a matriarchal society.  My mother dominated my father.  My high school principal, university president, and engineering department head were all female.  Most of my supervisors have been female.  The CEO of my organization is a lesbian.  My city, county, and state governments are all majority female.

I love hiring straight men for sex.  It is a particular kink.  I crave to be dominated sexually by a straight man.

I would hire StraightHung in a heartbeat, although I didn't particular enjoy giving head for great lengths of time at this moment in my life.

Your life experience - fascinating though it is - is irrelevant to living in a hetero-patriarchal society. A single mother raised me, and I have worked mainly in women-majority fields, but that doesn't change the fact that our society is dominated by men, who occupy most elected offices, run most companies, have most of the money, etc. Even the gains women have made in the past 50 years or so are primarily based on them doing double duty (family AND career) or fitting into patriarchal structures. 

I'm an SA survivor with rape fantasies. I don't have any moral or ethical issues with anyone's kink (as long as everyone is a consenting adult), but I find the attraction curious as I don't experience it. Once I learn a man is straight, my desire vanishes. 

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

The question was directed at @KensingtonHomo

He is claiming to be much more able to fuck a hottie in his mature years...so I thought maybe he had some ugly duckling years as a young man and learned to pay for sex early because he had to.

Girl, it would help if you spent more time with gay guys. Maybe you'd learn how to read and throw shade because this is weak tea. 

In your sad attempt to shade me, you have to go back in time to my twink days - imagine I was not desirable (rather than the reality that I was beating them off with a stick because I was very prudish due to HIV) - and then further ignore the reality that a significant percentage of younger men (20s to early 30s) are attracted to older men, hence all the "daddy" discourse and porn. 

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

It's interesting how some of these men are so brainwashed by Lesbian Equality Theory.

"Looks don't matter"...."we are all beautiful"..."personality is everything you need".

The.topic of the discussion is about clients who stand out, not a place to try and pretend we are all the same. Looks are very much important to men. It's how they are wired.

JFC, you sound like Tucker Carlson. There is no such thing as "Lesbian Equality Theory." If you're referring to Queer Theory, that also has nothing to do with "pretending we're all the same." 

Men are not "wired" in one particular way. This is you buying into a misogynistic lie propagated by patriarchal social norms that refer to what makes women sexually desirable, e.g., hip-to-breast ratio, relative youth, body fat distribution, etc. To the extent men are attracted to women based on those criteria, it's because they appear fertile and capable of carrying a pregnancy to term. There is no correlation for same-sex/gender desire. You're not attracted to a twunk because he's likely to become pregnant and have a viable pregnancy. This is like anti-trans people claiming we're attracted to chromosomes. 

4 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Convenience and getting in most cases hot guys we can't get for free. 

Is he HWP?

 

My husband is 6’1” and a lean 180.  I’m a bit shorter and thicker with an ass most 25 year olds envy. The guys we can fuck for free are all hot and generally 15-20 years our junior. 

It seems to me that you and PA project both your narrow views of attractiveness AND your experience onto everyone on this forum. 

Maybe stop doing that. 

22 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Did you have to pay for sex in your 20s too ? 

I have never HAD to pay for sex, though I was offered several sex work jobs in my 20s, as a dancer and an escort. 

My guess is you don’t HAVE to pay either, but you choose to because a) you have a specific type that you’d find hard to get on an app and b) you’re busy and don’t want to invest the time. 

What I find odd about you and @marylander1940 is that you’re not happy to just hire guys and trade tips. You have to constantly berate other people’s tastes, bodies, interests, and desires. And now you’re on this whole DARVO (look it up) response with me, where you’re trying to cast me as the bad guy “gatekeeper” for calling out your shitty behavior. 

38 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Rare for clients, this thread is about "Discount for in shape and good-looking clients". 

I don't know how old @pubic_assistance and you are but I know he's in good shape because of his lifestyle. 

 

What’s “rare for clients?” We hire primarily for convenience. Sure we could spend hours on Grindr and Scruff where everyone is flakey, and then see if a guy we’re attracted to fits into our competing schedules. Oddly, we are most often approached on the apps by guys in their 20s. Since we’re not attracted to most of them because they tend to be immature and bad at sex (as were we all), it’s kind of pointless. 

I’m younger than PA, but not by much. My husband is older, but also not by much. We’re both good looking guys (he’s a Disney prince come to life) and in good shape. And we both enjoy a wide variety of types of men. 

On 3/28/2024 at 12:41 AM, Thelatin said:

So you would also bang a corpse who is not interested.  Congrats. 

This is fucked up. You should delete it. I’m an SA survivor and you equating a lazy escort to me being held down and face fucked under threat of violence is disgusting. It’s offensive to SA survivors and @Mydavid who had an unpleasant but CONSENSUAL experience.