KensingtonHomo

14 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

No one said that relationships don't exist between old and/or fat people.

We were discussing gay men who actually have a sexual PREFERENCE for FAT men... not two chubby dudes who fell in love.

All animals choose mates based on a variety of signals but primarily HEALTH is an overwhelming driver in this decision-making process. That's why very old and very fat people are never chosen unless some unique person has a fetish that drives away the natural inclination to form bonds with a healthy partner.

The 85% you speak of are people who are average or formerly good looking people who's bond has grown past their need for physical beauty.  But this isn't the subject at hand. We are discussing prostitution...not love.

 

 

"Relationships" include sexual relationships, not just people who've fallen in love. While some physical attributes that correlate with fertility IN WOMEN are often tied to heterosexual desire, that's completely irrelevant to why two men want to have sex. And what those attributes are, hip to waist to bust ratio, are also historically contingent and socially influenced. See Botticelli's paintings where overweight women were considered the most beautiful. But like most conservative people, you want to naturalize your own biases. 

But more than anything, since you are not a gay man, I think you should stop speaking for us. You may be part of a group that hires men, but you're part of the LGBTQ community, so keep your opinions to yourself. 

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

There's always someone out there with a fetish for just about anything

Finding people who are overweight, older, or anything beyond a smooth bubble butt twunk sexually desirable, while unimaginable to you, is actually like 85% of all relationships.
 

50% of all Americans are overweight, including queer people. and they’re all having sex all the time. And that’s not a fetish. 

On 3/15/2024 at 9:39 AM, pubic_assistance said:

That's so fascinating. Most of the escorts I've hired over the years have commented how refreshing it was to hang with me because I WASN'T a "fat pig". That seems to be the one thing that puts people off much more than advanced age or even the loss of a leg or arm.

Never in all my years has anyone said I wish you were fatter.

 

Must you be fatphobic? By your admission, you only have sex with extremely fit, much younger men. Perhaps you have a biased sample on which you observe sociological phenomena? I know plenty of fit guys who are chasers, butch guys who love femmes, 20-somethings who love guys 20-30 years older than them, and everything in between. If those guys exist outside the escort scene, some are working as providers. 

I've gotten a lot of compliments from providers over the years. And I can smell bullshit a mile away, so I know who's gassing me up. That said, if a provider besmirched his other clients in front of me, I would not hire him again. 

9 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

The last celebrity pop sensation I was aware of was Justin Bieber.  I don't remember him ever using nail polish.  But if he did, he was remembered for his talent and other aspects of his looks besides outlandish nail color.

You're a millenial and the last pop sensation you remember was Justin Beiber? And you think he's talented? Do you also not listen to the radio? Use the internet? 😉

It's just weird because Taylor Swift (whom I don't particularly care for) is one of the most famous women in the world and she started her career a few years before Beiber. 

3 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

I haven't watched television in over 15 years, so I wasn't aware.  I knew Las Vegas was going to host the Superbowl this year but hadn't realized it happened already.  Therefore, if there are advertisements for long artificial men's fingernails, I haven't seen them.  I have seen women trying to use them to order at kiosks at fast food restaurants, and it is laughable.

I realize this is drifting off-topic, but I feel like you'd have to have spent the past 15 years on an isolated Island without electricity not to know who Taylor Swift is.

20 hours ago, Lucky said:

I would never hire a guy who uses the slur "f*g" in his screen name.

I typed the slur out in full only to receive this admonition: "Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below. "

 

So how does it pass that he uses it in his name?

 

Like other marginalized communities, many gay men have chosen to reclaim F*G as a term of empowerment. It may not be for you, but it's pretty common among people under 40. 

On 3/5/2024 at 3:51 PM, dutchal said:

That fits, pics lead to a model and musician with a Russian name.

Yes, but I do think it's the same person. On instagram, he's connected to another Russian masseur that I've seen. This is probably his side hustle. 

On 1/24/2024 at 10:05 PM, glutes said:

I use the initial phone conversation to rule out a crackhead and/or queen.

This is so misogynistic; comparing someone who is fem to a crackhead. JFC 

7 hours ago, Milo Janus said:

As one already posited:  What if he showed up with lipstick on?  Because you know it's coming.

You can just hand him a wet wipe. Lipstick comes off pretty easily. 

6 hours ago, Whippoorwill said:

One of the reasons I like young gentlemen is they give me a window into what's current, and help keep me young, if only by proximity. I have one young man who is a muscle god, tall, dark and handsome, and sizzlingly hot. Every time I see him I look forward to seeing if his hair is long or short, what color(s) it might be, what color his finger and toe nails might be, etc. Sometimes I like the look, sometimes not. But these details are transitory, and to me, just one aspect of the whole package. He says, "I am exploring both my male and female sides, celebrating multiple aspects of gender identity. Ignite your engine and join the journey." At my age I am not going on that journey, but am happy for him that he is free enough to explore. 

What a lovely point of view. I find men, in general, view people's physicality purely by whether or not it gets their dick hard. Honestly, it's childish and objectifying. I'm a Gen Xer and I admit I don't always resonate with what "the kids" are into. But I can look at someone like Timothee Chalamet, whom I feel zero sexual desire for, and know that he's aesthetically quite beautiful. I could say the same about tons of people of every gender who do not turn me on. 

I wonder how many of you here with these exacting standards are or have been in decades-long relationships. I suspect not many, as people age and our bodies change, and sometimes our tastes in clothing or how we wear our hair (or if we have hair) change. So, something as simple as nail polish being a deal breaker makes me think these guys don't have the (pardon the pun) versatility to be with another human being for 20 or 30 years. 

1 minute ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Most students "deserve" a good kick in their ass to start working part time and during summers to pay for their tuition without student loans.  Most students "deserve" to share bedrooms and bathrooms in dormitories rather than private rooms financed by the taxpayer, living a lifestyle they couldn't afford their first 5 years out of university. 

Okay, I went to school a while ago when it cost about 20 percent of what it does now. I worked the entire time, and at no point was I offered a lifestyle funded by the taxpayers, though I did receive grants because we were poor. I don't think anyone is actually living this way on the tax payer's dime. I know affluent and wealthy people who went to college this way, including my husband. 

I would also note that I was offered a job as an escort and also as a dancer but was too prudish at 19 to pursue them. 

3 hours ago, Thelatin said:

But yeah - it honestly was more of a chore banging a fat drunk, compared to a sober, tan, toned person.  It’s just facts. 

I've been sober for 25 years, so a drunk person of any kind would be off putting. But I don't find having sex with overweight people to be a chore. 

On 3/4/2024 at 4:06 PM, Thelatin said:

After getting into much better shape I can tell you I receive much better treatment.  I have a guy I see about once a year as he drives through my town.  Last time he walked in, grabbed me, and smashed me in my kitchen saying “you got fuckable”.

To say one "got fuckable" is to imply you were not previously fuckable and it was - what? - gross or a chore? I'd show a provider the door if he said this to me. I've recently lost the weight I put on during COVID. While one or two providers have remarked upon it, they did so with far more tact. Like "you look great" or "you lost some weight but not your ass. Hot." 

We prefer to find guys who we like and build a relationship (a friendly client/provider one) that we can sustain over time. The challenge there is sometimes guys are traveling, or not available when we are, or they leave the industry. We have two guys we're mostly seeing now. Fingers crossed. 

I just had this experience with someone I've seen a few times. I assumed he lived alone, but not only was the roomate home, he was noisy. It ruined the mood for me. I don't think the masseur was being intentionally dishonest. He lives in a very large apartment, so unsurprisingly, it's shared. I would have appreciated a heads-up. I'm not sure if I'll see him again. 

On 3/1/2024 at 6:33 PM, marylander1940 said:

 

you contacted him on Thursday and he replied on Sunday? he couldn't grab his phone to check messages in almost 4 days? Move on...

Another possibility is that he uses a burner phone or a burner app for the side hustle, and he didn’t check or turned off notifications. 

6 hours ago, muscmtl said:

U got proof of this? Where u actually kicked an escort out without paying!!!

This NOTHING like grndr hookup. Your chances of getting beat up when saying no is a 1000 to 1: escort vs grndr.

You d be floored to learn the number of men who show up annuallt to the ED with fx ribs or skull because they said "I ain't paying" to an escort

 

I also find this hard to believe. I'm not as big as @BenjaminNicholas but I'm solid, have a black belt and box regularly. I'm not remotely afraid of any escort we've ever had over. 

Also, it's MY house, so I know where the weapons are. 

Who are you hiring? Guys from 1950s mob movies? Most of the guys we hire are highly unlikely to want a physical confrontation. 

And if I were traveling, I would absolutely call hotel security or bounce him myself. 

On 2/26/2024 at 6:45 AM, Your Man in Arlington said:

Messaged him, but was left in the seen zone. His profile text does imply he's looking for one single "individual"... so there's that.

He's not an escort. He wants a sugar daddy. 

I have paid deposits multiple times and never had someone flake on it. Generally, it's only requested the first time and it's a relatively small amount ($25-$50). We made deposits for both of our current regulars and we've had no issue. I do understand the privacy issues but there are ways around them. 

42 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

We will agree to disagree. The thread isn't about the subway. It's about getting your hour-boy an Uber.

Whether or not stabbings are up or down from 1993 🙄..the point I am making is that the presence of mentally ill drug addicts ( who showed up in 2020 ) makes for an unpleasant and seemingly unsafe environment. I am not playing games determining my statistical chances of being attacked by one of them and I wouldn't put my new-fuck-friend through that either. Uber at night in NYC is reasonable. (Unless you're a cheap-ass who doesn't really care what happens to your date after you get-off.)

Since you've clearly lost the argument and been exposed as an alarmist who probably watches Fox News, you resort to personal attacks. There's no agreeing to disagree. You're incorrect on the facts by a WILD margin. We've had homeless people, some with mental health and substance abuse problems, on our trains my entire life. The fact is that violent crime had a slight uptick last year, some robberies are up - again nothing like the 90s, let alone the 70s or 80s. If this is how you feel about NYC, I suggest you move somewhere less frightening; unless your cheap ass can't afford Darien. 

7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I LIVE in NYC. The subway is currently a security problem at night, whether you choose to ignore it or not. I would gladly pay for my "date" to get home safely.

 

We BOTH LIVE in NYC. I've also lived here my entire life. The subways have slightly more crime than they had pre-pandemic. At that point, they were the safest they'd been since the 1960s. The subways account for two percent of ALL crime in NYC. 

To wit: "Major crimes are, overall, down 72% from 1993 in Manhattan, according to his analysis of borough-level crime data. The 438 murders recorded citywide last year, moreover, are vastly less than the 2,262 recorded in 1990." 

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims

APNEWS.COM

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Social media users are claiming crime in New York City is the worst it’s been in a generation. But criminal...

It depends. Not more than 24 hours. 

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

During the day, you could walk faster than a taxi. But at night a taxi is a safer alternative, now that the subway is full of mentally ill drug addicts. I'm guessing most escort appointments are at night, so taking an Uber is reasonable.

Do you get any channels besides Fox News? I was on the subway last night and there was an occasional homeless person, but it was mostly average NYCers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

15 hours ago, nycman said:

Uber?….lmao
Ms. Thing, get your fancy ass on the subway….just like I do. 
Also, I don’t want some hooker fucking up my Uber rating.
I’m not cheap, but I detest wasting money and time. 

Perhaps @Marc in Calif is right that it's an NYC/DC/Chicago thing. But A list celebrities take the subway in NYC. Broadway stars take the subway. So the idea that some fit, healthy 28 year old can't take the subway is just silly. 

Now I’ve reached out to him