KensingtonHomo

I feel like this is a hospital situation, not a massage situation. 😷

I noticed that erotic was showing up only intermittently. I wonder if they're trying to get ahead of the BS that's made Pornhub inoperable in a bunch of states.

I agree with your assessment. I object to it being naturalized as "the way it is" when it's really the result of historical circumstances and billions of dollars in marketing and advertising. We can choose to be kinder, gentler and better to each other. The cultural tide is turning against us and we need solidarity. It's hard to build community is we're treating each other like shit on hook up apps.

I guess if we're parsing words, I said that twinks became "A List" in the 2010s, following the "muscle boy" craze that came out of steroid use for PWAs in the mid-90s before the cocktail. So, yes, twinks were a thing, and they were on a spectrum from that to a muscle boy, but MOST gay men in the 1960s through the early '90s had a diversity of body types that we would mainly now consider "average." You can see that this was the "ideal" through all the porn and blue boy magazines going back to the 1950s. My theory is that the rise of "twinks" and "daddies" as alternate ideals in the late 2010s is a response to the 30 years of men feeling like they had to look like Chris Evans in the Avengers to get laid. And also everyone had the same body, which is boring.

Our culture has undeniably coarsened; much of it is driven by predatory capitalism, out-of-control individualism, and social media. And, sure, there were always guys who acted like pricks in gay bars or clubs, but they tended to be a minority. "Twinks" were not an A List category until the 2010s. I spent most of my 20s being told I was "too skinny" (I wasn't but the rise of the "chelsea boy" made everyone not on roids too skinny.) Sure, nice bodies have always had currency but my friend group had all types and they all found people who were attracted to them. Oddly, me and my husband are pursued by guys in their 20s all the time now. Those "A List" twinks. I guess the Daddy phase has its benefits. And we're both in good shape but not ripped or super muscular. Unfortunately, neither of us really find that type attractive. But we're still nice to them online or in person. All that said, I do not feel anyone is obliged to respond to someone who sends you 10 hole or dick pics without even a modicum of conversation. That person is not being well-mannered or respectful either.

It's not about growing old. My millennial and Gen Z friends complain about the lack of basic manners on these platforms. Ultimately, it's a choice to accept or reject this coarsening of our culture.

Putting aside the RM angle here, I have to disagree with you. If someone said "hello" to you in a bar, club, or supermarket line, you would not just ignore them. You would briefly chat with them and then extricate yourself from the situation—hopefully with some kindness. Allowing ourselves to treat others as less than human on apps or dating sites is callous. Treating other people as human beings is just good manners. My millennial friends constantly complain about being ghosted and blocked without explanation. This "I don't owe anyone my time or explanation" attitude is not the boss move it's portrayed as. Rather, it's an avoidance of an uncomfortable interaction that is making our culture more atomistic and less humane as more people do it. 85% of the guys who hit us up on the apps are not our type. Mostly, they're very young, 18-25, and they open by referring to us as "daddies." I ignore them if they have a blank profile because our profile says "NPNC." Otherwise, I'll do the brief exchange and then say, "Thanks so much for reaching out, but we prefer men closer to our age." The other guy usually says, "Oh, thank you for letting me know." It doesn't take much more time than ignoring someone, and I've treated them like a human being.

We're not allowed to discuss politics here. So Google her.

Exactly, she's a monster.

Contrary to WestGuy and @Mk27, I have been rimmed by multiple masseurs without even asking for it. Some guys are really into a juicy looking ass. 🤭

That message would be such a turnoff to me.

They’re not giving up either.

This is true. Pornhub became illegal in 16 states today. And I suspect those are the states that also want to catch gay men, immigrants, etc, to prove we’re perverts. And the definition of Trafficking has been completely abused. The combination of old school feminism and religion makes for a particularly noxious blend.

I don't have the time or the inclination to waste a provider's time. I suspect some providers use it because I get a green SMS response when I text them, but when I met them, we both had iPhones. A few months ago, a provider kind of screwed me over after I sent a deposit. He was using his personal line, which meant I could identify him by his home address and workplace. I considered letting him know how exposed he was but it felt like mutually assured destruction as I had used my primary phone. That's what made me move to Burner. My job is semi-public and - much like those who insist on cash - I don't want an electronic trail.

Can I ask what comments made you feel this way?

In addition to Signal and WhatsApp, there's an app called Burner, which gives you a separate number that you can use for private matters and turn the notifications off. It costs a few dollars but I like having it so I don't have to give out my actual number or risk a text from a provider popping up when my nephew has my phone.

They don’t even fight it.

I just saw him this week. He's definitely more in the Deli realm. He starts with a massage, which is pretty good. Mikeyy is as hot as his picture. He's more charming in person with a great smile and laugh. All the extras were great.

I read his profile on Sacred Eros and he does seem to be positioning himself as more of a sex and intimacy coach. Oddly he has no certificates or anything noted.

No you don't. You know exactly what i'm talking about. If you need help identifying us, we're the ones who do 90% of the work to secure our rights, while guys who pass criticize us from the sidelines.

Yeah, this is my way. If an escort lists it, I don't even contact them. I'm sober and my husband is a social drinker. I come from a family with substance abuse issues, and I have no desire to deal with strangers who are on drugs.

I'm always stunned by gays who are traveling to Dubai and such. First of all, I won't go to Florida or Texas because I'm not giving those states my money, nor do I feel safe as a visibly queer person in either one. The idea of having my money support autocratic religious regimes that violently oppress women and queers, enslave refugees and - as with all elites - are vile hypocrites is completely disgusting to me. I once had a massage from a guy who had grown up in Saudi Arabia. He said all the wealthy guys have orgies, including with teenage boys and young men, but these same people will have openly gay people executed. So fuck them.

Oh yeah. Great kisser. Not sure about BFE bc I hire with my husband so we’re not looking for that. But he’s warm, chatty, and has a lot of interests so I imagine he could be.

From what providers say on here, it seems like a lot of clients don't read profiles.

As a client I prefer that a provider note in their ad that they're not available. Especially if I'm traveling, I don't want to waste time reaching out to guys who can't see me.