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Also I found this article: I was not aware that this was an issue in Denver: Denver’s mayor asks Biden administration for more work authorizations to get migrants off streets WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Temperatures are falling and migrants keep coming. Mayor Mike Johnston is hoping work authorizations will help... That’s why I say: at the end of the day it’s good to be discerning. I’m not going to get too deeply political (as requested) but I’m not sure why they are sending migrants to downtown Denver, when the locals have been long dealing with housing and homeless issues themselves. There’s plenty of land and small towns in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana. That’s why, my biz model lately has been to spend less time in the bigger populated cities. The money isn’t there anymore like it used to because it’s like 20 guys trying to get the same 1 client. Too much competition and migration from California AND abroad lol.

Oh yeah, I remember that hotel. It’s normally nicer than that room I had but it was mostly sold out lol. Seems like they’ve gone back and forward between being a hotel and a shelter ever since Covid. It only recently became a corporate brand in the last few years but it’s changed names a couple times. The adjacent building is nicer, but last time I stayed they were doing some remodeling and the pent house jacuzzi room I used to stay in wasn’t available. I may get back out there again in the near future, however my last trip there in August was a total bust. Spent 3 days there and not a single (real) client. I was infuriated. I didn’t have any hotel overhead though because it was a friend’s meetup. But the day I came home, ended up with an awful strep throat…And had to be out of commission for an additional few days. I know last year was slow in a lot of cities though, so maybe I’ll get back out there on a different season. But similar to Chicago and Atlanta: I’m not going to spend my money going unless I have specific reason to be there. And next time I’m taking my phone number down because far too many time wasters and guys who don’t want to do deposits there lol. We need more guys like you, @keroscenefire 😜

Hmm, interesting. It might just be a side hustle for them in between other things and may be splitting living costs. I thought you were referring to one hosting at the same time with a few other guys around or something. I’m just curious: how would you surmise that they all stay with each other, by chance? I just ask because I’ve had clients ask me if I know so and so or if I’m friends with other guys. Even had one client (in Denver) couple years back ask if I knew the escort guy staying next door to me at a hotel with like 10 floors🤦🏾‍♂️ I’m like no, and have no idea how I got placed right next door to another guy with an ad. I would find it hard not being able to host though. I’ve found most clients in Denver and it’s “brother” city without mountains aka Kansas City, can rarely ever host. I have to keep a booking bag packed and a list of hotels on speed dial because: it never fails someone will contact me in the morning or early afternoon wanting me to host within a couple hours.

I don’t necessarily have similar direct experience with migrant providers, however I know there’s some other “literature” out there that references similar topic: So, with that said: we don’t always know the full background for each individual person’s situation. I know the language barrier could be easier for someone fluent in Spanish, but I have heard from a (White) client personally who mentioned to me about someone he met communicating in how you describe, and that he didn’t expect it. So for some that might be an issue. The risks may be different in Denver versus a place like say Oklahoma, Texas, or Las Vegas. I know for me personally escort or not an escort: I’d be concerned about safety and privacy when visiting someone where there’s multiple guys doing sex work in one place. I don’t even like to do that outside of sex work just because the potential drugs and/or drama that could invite. One might have a client coming, another have a client going. And all the activity might set off 🤨 depending upon the layout of wherever you going. Maybe hosting would be advantageous. I did have a great time with a guy in Chicago who was mixed with Guatemalan American and had the same (real) first name as me. Everyone can see who they wish to see, however with so much going on at the border and uncertainty with it all: It’s important to be a bit discerning versus looking thru the horny goggles 🥽 so to speak lol.

Thanks, I’m trying…bit by bit. And today I checked out the hotel at 1 p.m. and nobody even knocked on the door (made sure I requested it). I was in bed til 10:30 a, damn caffeine drink and evening workout had me up all night watching porn and Alexa music 😂

Yeah Sear’s was super reliable. I think I have feather pillows and other items as well, and when they merged with shop your way rewards it was easy to get some great deals. Another store I like that has somewhat scaled back over the years but remains in biz: is Burlington (used to be “coat factory”). It’s hard not to walk in there and not buy something. Clothing and coat quality/selection though isn’t too great. It’s generally overstocked or undersold stuff you’d see at places like “Orlando premium outlets” or similar type of places. I’ll buy the occasional workout clothes, home goods and luggage. But I brought a Tommy coat from Macys and the quality is different than the Tommy coats at Burlington. Oh yeah I have an iron from Sears from years ago too: that thing has stood the test of time. It gets steams the wrinkles out of anything. I used to travel with it because I got tired of crusty hotel irons, but it’s just too heavy to carry around and I don’t iron much lol. It would be nice if Walmart or Target brought out and merged with Sears: as we’ve seen with certain hotel chains.

No attempt to ingratiate myself, but I figure I can at least mention it. Some times I’ll say things, and it may come across unintended. Or it’s meant to just be a figurative reference to something. It doesn’t necessarily mean “all” or everyone. It’s only as it applies to particular scenarios I’m discussing. Other thing being, I’ve been going thru a difficult time in my mid 30s…and there’s been a lot of ambivalent and borderline toxic people in/out of my circle. There’s no reliability in my “fuck buddies”, I haven’t had a legit boyfriend now in years (not that I can’t be whole without one but: if I did have one, I could subtract fuck buddies out the equation), feeling incompatibility with where I reside, and family has been working my nerve. Add to it often missing/losing clients because I can seldom take short notice bookings, that many in my area seem to desire. Not to mention the almost weekly passive aggressive kind of behavior that comes thru my phone (yesterday had someone tell me $250 is “too much to pay for some dick”) Which I know is typical opinionated tactics because I was blessed with twice that amount the next day. Had another telling me “I’ll pass” when I mentioned I couldn’t see him right now, but could later on tonight (my ads all specify couple hours or more notice). Wasn’t sure if he passed because of that or my rates, but not sure what he passed on in the 1st place because he contacted me first. I wasn’t propositioning him 🤷🏾‍♂️ The main way to get a break from these things lately is to travel, but as I’ve discussed before: that isn’t without hurdles of its own. But it’s been helpful. Dealing with this regularly, I find it makes me want to vent more and post things some may feel comes off negative. But I told someone the other day: By all means offer advice and suggestions where you see fit. If I can implement it, great. If it can’t be applied to a particular situation: thanks but, don’t let it get you down. But going forward, I’ll try to contribute more to reading/answering other’s threads and questions instead.

I still have Sylvania electric fireplace I brought from Sears 6-7 years ago. Works like a charm til this day, but it’s been only moderately used. Looks like Sears.com is still in biz though. Idk I’m not familiar or too versed on why certain stores get phased out: But I think some places just go thru their cycle. We see this with gay bars often in cities. Even though the longevity is a bit less than big department stores. I brought a lot of good stuff at Sears though… I don’t think Amazon is the “new” Sears, even though it does appear convenient. The closest thing to that would probably be Target 🎯 Macys or Wal-Mart (can’t forget about Sears Auto Center lol). Sometimes I wonder how any of these stores make it for so long at all. Sometimes I get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of merchandise out there. I went to a liquor store earlier, a new “Total Wine” in the area: just rows and rows of wine…and I was like the only person shopping tonight 🤷🏾‍♂️ Sometimes it makes me reflect on my own biz, like…how can I avoid going bankrupt? lol. But since we’re technically “managed” by a larger company, RM and some others: as long as the site stays hot, our product has the potential to stay hot. Also just because one may be tanking in one area, doesn’t mean there’s no demand elsewhere. And one other thing: I think a lot of people are mislead thinking online is the best way to go. I was searching for a particular spinner bag to go with a luggage set I am putting together. I brought a couple things online, but I went hopping between TJ Maxx, Ross and Home Goods/Marshall’s and found what I needed plus a couple other Knick knacks. I couldn’t find it online, and what I did find would have been much more expensive. Sears served its purpose well, but it probably more appealed to an older audience. Plus with places like Harbor Freight, Home Depot, or “Menards” and Meyer for those of us in the Midwest: It’s bigger than just tools, appliances and clothing. For me, Home Depot’s garden department wins every time. Even though I noticed lately they’ve been scaling back on selection and increased some of the prices the past summer. Hopefully it’ll be better this summer.

I’m not going to tell you what I was doing at 15, 16, and 17 because that would probably be against the minor discussion rules of this platform lol.

I’ll say too: one thing that peeves me are guys who will contact on an inclement weather day (or late at night Outcall) but when told I’m not able to come out due to the time/weather: they don’t respond back and aren’t available again the next day…or ever. Until two years later out the blue. That’s just so tacky to me. How you gon ask me to meet during a time that’s relatively unsafe/inconvenient, and then go ghost when I try to set up something more reasonable and convenient? I don’t like when people make it seem like meeting them is an all or nothing proposition. Don’t hit me up like some last minute resort. Because I won’t be available. Had someone do that last week. I wasn’t about to go out and meet him when the roads were getting bad, because I would have had to drive all the way back in it. Hasn’t bothered to even reach out at all to reschedule or anything, and didn’t respond when I offered.

Sometimes I feel we can never please everybody. Half are leery because of a rate too low, others pass up because the rate is too high. Why do people make our lives rocket science? A price is a price. It’s no need to be gaslit or cross examined over it every time. The only way I’ve found to fix this, long time ago: Is have more than 1 rate. And then have a menu that outlines clearly what it is. One price doesn’t fit all. I respect some clients want a $150 session, others want a $400 session. I can’t attempt to appease both by charging the same thing hoping it’s what they want to hear. On the flip side, having 1 rates exclusively will cut all the bullshit and make it very non negotiable, which I could see the appeal of that too.

Bravo 🙌🏾 And this is part of the reason I really just prefer to buy my own stuff. Everything in my closet I brought it, my car and hopefully soon enough, my place. I have “too” many clothes as it is, if a client is going to gift me something: it’s given not asked or “coddled” for. I understand the whole “he doesn’t consider himself an escort” cliche but: guys like that I don’t necessarily “hate” but, if they come at me on some “I don’t whore I just have guys buy me stuff” nonsense, then that’s where I’m going to be like 🤨 I personally don’t vibe guys like that because, they’re opportunists. I’ve come across a few every now and then: always good looking, sexy, can come in any race: but they go on dates making the other person pay for everything, while they sit back and contribute little to nothing until you can “prove” yourself to them. I remember couple or so years ago: I went on a date with a guy to Landrys Seafood. It’s like our second meet, and this was his way of me needing to “prove” myself to him. I ordered fish, he ordered fish: then sent it back and got lobster. Fair enough. But a $140 bill was not something I was expecting 😂 eventually he got the point down the line: What he looking to get, he’s not going to find in someone who’s trying to get it themselves. We ended up being friends but…over time I started to feel the one sidedness was too much to deal with. It was mostly all about him. I may be hired fun but, I’m never in the Mind-frame to take advantage of someone. Some of these “non escorts” are professional scam artists in the long run. They know how to get what they want out of dudes…and more power to them. But he who giveth, taketh away. I’ve seen it more than enough. That said I don’t mean to imply this to anyone’s here particular situation. And if it’s fun and mutually consenting, by all means. It’s nothing wrong with doing nice things for others.

hmm, idk about that @Rod Hagen. I currently ask between 1,100-1,200 for overnights and it’s only occasionally that I book them. The average gay dude looking to get fucked isn’t trying to drop $1,000-$2,000. Just like I said about Indian hotel owners: cheap would describe a good amount of gay dudes too. It’s not racism or homophobia, it’s facts. Hell, I’m cheap myself sometimes because it’s what I have to do to survive out here, in an economy that wants more more more from me, yet gay guys lately wanting to pay less less less. Like that song: nothing + nothing = 🤷🏾‍♂️ Even clients who live in million dollar homes, still seem to only want to pay $200 half the time. @Thelatin I would be thrilled to do a 4 day session for $3,000: long as it doesn’t require being hard the entire time 😂 But I’ve been trying to come up with $3,000 all year but most of my bookings have mainly only been up to $500. Even last week I had an overnight: I was able to do a handful of things. Even at $1,100 ($1,200 for out of state travel) I can still do a lot, and ideally I rely on overnights at least 2-3 times a year. Past year I hardly had any, and that affected my finances greatly. I can’t speak for everyone but not everyone can keep up with the joneses and charge female rates. And even for them, I often read on other forums how things are slow because they deal with like 3x the competition that we do. And it gets worse. Even though I’ma loyal RentMasseur member: many of the clients seem to be Craigslist refugees seeking very low prices. I have to tell people all the time, I can’t do stuff for $60/$80. It doesn’t even pay a bill. I’ll spend 2 hours preparing for that, and if I have to book a room: I’m essentially getting nothing. For example:

ugh, no reason why cars rust out prematurely up that way. I brought a vehicle from a friend in Wisconsin couple years ago, and although it’s in mint condition paint and interior wise, the underbody looks like something from 1979 lol. Each summer I try to oil it down to keep it from spreading. Damn that’s a lot of man 🐕 in one space, I’d have to wonder what it smells like 😆 Also not sure what’s up with DC. I went in September and it was dead. If it wasn’t for the couple hits I did have: I’d of been disappointed. I think it’s the costs and maybe the gentrification and crime. I was charged $9 for a cutwater in a can, paid $20 to get into a club with $12 drinks lol. Not to mention just a lot of guys advertising there. People need to realize, these big cities aren’t always where it’s at. It would be nice if ever the gay community reversed and moved out to the suburbs. Turn Reston into the next gay Mecca 😂 This has become common in many cities, and quite the hassle if you’re not aware of it. I still don’t forget that time I was visiting someone in Atlanta, and thought I was paying the parking meter. Turns out, it was for one side of the street and the other side was app only parking owned by shopping plaza (in Chicago and some other cities, you can pay a meter and park basically anywhere in the “zone” if you enter your zone or space number if I remember) I come out and I’m double booted 😂 I can laugh now but, it’s fucking robbery. And that was mild compared to last month: I was fucking a guy and watching movies and cuddling all night, even dipped off to the store for a little more alcohol. Car was fine. Asked him, “if I spend the night here, is there anything I should worry about my car parking here at all?” He’s like, “nah you should be okay” Next morning: I look out the window where I parked and car is gone 🤦🏾‍♂️ Got it back $219 later. It’s like damn, can’t a single gay man have an enjoyable time sometimes without some bullshit? Fucks sake. This is why home ownership or renting is best. Not only have to pay greedy property management companies, but then have to worry about yours and your guests cars at that. Lol when I lived in Florida: anybody getting into the pool/beach in December thru February was always from up north or Canada and would be made fun of lol Now I’m like: if it’s 80 degrees in February, I can get into the water for a “few” minutes. Floridians have no tolerance for cold, but it’s not necessarily a strong point when you have to move or travel elsewhere and 40 feels unbearable lol.

Geeszus Christmas! lol I keep trying to get to Buffalo, but seems like after mid December on point: I’m going to have to take a 4WD to get there. That type of snow reminds me of what Colorado up in the 10,000’ towns would get. Just snow, snow, snow. I learned how to drive in snow fairly quick, but I just don’t like it anymore. The lack of traction and like the lady said: having to slow down. Then half people out there think it’s okay to go regular speed limit or above in those conditions. Nah… Surprisingly though: this time of year I don’t be eager to go to Florida or SoCal yet because: it’s either going to be somewhat chilly or, unless it’s full time relocation, still gotta come back to the winter. Though last year I lucked out and came back from San Diego after Easter: and by then it started warming up everywhere.

Ugh 😩 that would be a situation of: “who’s currently in this hotel and willing to pay” 😂 Tried that in Louisville last winter, didn’t work so well. Just a bunch of fantasists. That courtyard Marriott felt more like a shelter than anything lol.

I felt San Diego to be a bit cold last year when I stayed in March. I could catch a couple hours to run outdoors in a tank top during the day, but soon as the sun set it would feel like freezing. Their winter is like a north Florida/New Orleans weather. Not so much Key West/Wilton Manors. And just to the east is the mountains that do get snow…it just doesn’t make it to sea level.

Lol I was wondering about that because: every time I looked at my iPhone weather cities, Buffalo has showed snow for like the past 5-6 days everyday. Can’t even imagine why 😯 If I was there, I’d be chillin in everyday and just doing incalls lol.

lol I’m sure Kevin would agree but at 36 I’m just glad it’s RentMEN now (albeit not of the same kind).

I guess using solely RentMen is okay in busy markets but, for me I have to be on at least 2-3 other platforms. I don’t particularly vibe for guys trying to book me on the hookup apps. To me that’s playing mind games. If you see my ad, just book me. Don’t try to see if you can get me for cheap or free, or discuss services where prohibited so I can get banned. Which is what I think some of them be trying to do. I had one guy do some slick shit: he hits me up on the app, then sends his number. My messages showed he hit me up before, and sorta gave me the blow off. I didn’t notice until I messaged him again, and it showed up in green. I let him know I text him, then he blocks me. It’s like dude: go somewhere with that non sense. Because that got him blacklisted.

lol I thought you were some of the last remaining guys who used A4A lol.

Well, it was an actual overnight visit price. Now I have done such visits without overnight price, but usually the client has a separate guest bedroom. I was almost going to get a hotel room if it wasn’t going to be an overnight. But I’m not going to sleep on a client’s couch though lol.

I did outcall visit the other night, and I think the high was only 3 that day. But since it was a late evening visit, I was able to suggest that we’d have to do an overnight if I came up because I wasn’t going to want to drive back again at night. So in that case I didn’t mind. Ordinarily I used to be ok driving in snow though. I lived in Denver, and every so often I’d get a call during or right after a big snow. But long as the person was within 10 miles of me in the city I didn’t mind. Other times I was traveling to/from a city and had no choice. I know some people have Jeeps or 4WD and don’t mind. But it’s still the factor of it taking longer to get to a destination and also the way back. I remember one year in April, I was in Milwaukee. I went in the gym and it was dry. Came out the gym and there was like 2-3 inches of snow. Then I got stuck on my way to a client’s hotel trying to go up a bridge. Looking back, I would have just rather booked a room at his hotel and stayed overnight myself.

Just had a rouge storm come thru yesterday in my area that left about 2-3 inches of snow. I had a same day booking request that I was considering to take, but by the time I got the needed details and was about to schedule: the snow started coming down. I checked Google maps and even though the roads in my area were okay, closer to Kansas City I noticed a backup in both directions and an accident. KC seems to always get more snow (and worse drivers 🤢) so I ended up telling him I wouldn’t be able to meet due to the conditions. And it’s not just going there, it’s coming back too. I think if anything: people seem to reach out MORE for outcalls, when it’s snowing. It’s like, no. I’m not 911 or Superman. I know it seems warm and cozy but…it’s not fun being stressed on the way to/from a booking. Same thing with summer thunderstorms. I was on my way to a client last year, the highway turned into a river and a few cars stalled out. He’s blowing up my phone texting like, are you here? Are you close? Are you on your way still??? I didn’t even bother reading his message’s until I pulled up in the driveway. It’s like dude, you see the weather. Fucking chill out and be patient. I don’t like being rushed when the weather is already bad. If a client does want to meet in bad weather: expect to wait an additional 2 to 4 hours, and try to avoid same day booking requests. If the weather is going to bad, planning a day in advance will at least give me a chance to coordinate my timing around it.

I think it’s probably moreso related to the changes over the recent years between sites and of course inflation. The other day I got a “premium” drink in Nashville: $14+1 card fee I noticed later (something the bars in the area have decided to do) and $3 tip. Basically $18. I was like, that’s the price of a whole dinner lol. And this was a weekday night at a karaoke dive bar. I felt like I was on Coronado island at the Lowes lol. What would that have been, $25? Good Lord 🤦🏾‍♂️ At this rate I may have to get an 2nd gig just to afford to go out to gay bars, or stick to mocktails. It’s just becoming too much in some cities. Add the hangovers…and it’s like paying double lol. But 2023 from what I read on other escort resources outside of this forum, have said it was a slow one. I know for me it was, but so far this January has been a decent rebound. Keeping fingers crossed to ride this wave 🌊 🏄🏾‍♂️ into February. @Kevin Slater how much of that % was from RentMen versus A4A?