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I don’t have all the specifics figured out for this, but I’m starting to feel the “common” way of booking hotels and traveling to a city and lining up clients (like many seem to think we all do) just isn’t it anymore. In the last couple days: I’ve had 3 confirmed bookings and 3 “maybe” bookings cancel, and I’m on my 2nd night at a hotel. Then a handful of inquiries here and there that haven’t panned out. This after I traveled over 5 hours to a city, in shitty weather at that. Livid would underestimate the way I felt. I had to take myself to a movie, just to escape the reality for a couple hours. I’m at a point, I’m done with booking and paying for hotels: and having their inflated rates suck up my funds. Then, if something goes awry on the way to a city: Lot of clients can only squeeze in a narrow window of time to meet an escort when I’m hosting. Time and time again I’ve booked rooms, and the client omits the fact that they have other obligations going on, that prevents them from being able to set aside more than an hour or 2. So there’s times I’ve ended up with cancelled bookings, and waiting in a hotel trying to book other clients…only for them to not show either. So I’m basically about to just quit hosting all together, unless I’m doing it from my actual place. But since that could potentially lower the amount of clients I get, I might have to start doing minimums of no less than $500-$1,000 anytime I travel, that would be enough to offset the expenses. I’ve found some clients don’t mind getting a room to host, and have even gone to cities where every client hosted (my first time to San Francisco some years ago was like that: all my bookings hosted). Only caveat is how to work that in if I need a room anyway. I don’t mind figuring out my own accommodations after I earn for the session in full. But that would give me the flexibility to pick any hotel of preference in any area of town. Not necessarily central for taking clients. Right now this is just a preliminary idea, but it might be something I reserve for certain markets. But the ultimate goal would be: send the deposit, include the address, and I’ll come to you. Amazon delivery 🚚 basically. No booking hotels or hosting unless it’s an overnight or 2+ hour evening session. It’s not that I don’t like hosting, I’m just over having to cover it all: travel, book a room, check into the room, and perform. I’ve often found it easier to just travel and perform when I’m going to cities. The whole hotel process adds a whole extra layer of work for me. And like the other day, one client failed to tell me he was going out of town that same night, and was waiting in a company vehicle for me to get to the hotel. Then he cancelled because his boss was calling. So I had to then call/cancel the hotel, and call the 1800 number to get the hotel to approve getting my points returned so it wasn’t lost. But just the day before, he tells me he was available “anytime” and made no mention of this. That’s why I have to remember to always ask every client before I make any hotel or outcall plans: “If you have ANYTHING else going on in your schedule I need to know about around the time of our appointment, be sure to let me know the earliest and latest you can meet.”

This is exactly why I rather just have a site with all this info listed. The issue comes when people don’t click my “about me” section especially on RentMass. I know pricing is a topic, but why have the extra rejection factor of having to ask and find out what the price is, instead of just being able to freely list it along with any extras or add ons

And that’s why I ask for deposits…Why they behave that way, is long unconcerned for me. I just need to do what I know is best for me. …now that escort has to wonder if the guy is going to be just address collecting him. I stopped relying on people to be “on their way” long time ago. Why am I going to tell someone where I’m staying or where I live with no assurance of them showing? When I’m in one city it’s a bit easier because there’s a row of town homes on an narrow street, all connected with different street numbers. I can give them the one across the street, look outside to ensure they’ve arrived, and then come outside to meet them or direct them to the proper side of the street. If they want to be stupid and play games, they get the address to the abandoned house down the street. Maybe they’ll have more fun with the neighborhood raccoon 🦝 or possum (yes they live in some city’s downtowns, not sure where they hide) 😂

What I meant by that was: not just this country but just political/economic stuff in general. I’m only 36 but: I know the early 2000s had its crisis, the 90s had its crisis, and the 80s, 70s and 60s too. All which likely had people afraid and uncertain for a period of time. That is the bullshit what I’m referring to. Whether that’s pandemic, epidemic, war, Y2K, Cuban missile crisis, stock market crash, housing market crash, oil embargo, civil rights unrest: it’s always some bullshit. This whole thing now with Russia, Iran and who’s going to get elected next: is all part of the 2020s saga that we’re living in, but isn’t particularly unique in the scheme of things. I never know exactly why/how sex work; an intricate industry, is affected by these things but: somehow it manages to persevere and rebound thru it all. Well thankyou, classy I am (I try to practice what I post when dealing with other businesses: like the ones that quote me $3,000 for a paint touch up 🤦🏾‍♂️ That’s the spirit!

I just wanted to go back to this again, just to clarify. It’s not that I’m charging for information. I have my ad, my website, and reviews. All that information is readily available. The thing is, many people who browse the sites skip all that information, that I’ve put my foot into baking 🥧 lol, metaphorically speaking: and go straight to dialing or instant messaging me. Then when I go over that information, they are clueless: no idea that I prefer advance notice, no idea that I ask for a deposit, no idea that I travel and post in different cities, no idea that I have a website, no idea my rates, no idea about anything. And they want to reach out at random times and tell me they are only available “Today”. I remember few months ago, some dude contacted me while I was visiting at the Air Force base with a guy I was dating. I took the time to reply to him: he was visiting in a town about hour away, but it was the nearest major city to the Air Force base: he had a hotel but didn’t want to host because quote: “his dog isn’t friendly with strangers”. Then when I was trying to arrange a booking, he’s like “only in town tonight” and then gets all dismissive towards me when I asked for deposit because: why the fuck am I going to go way out there and book a hotel out of my pocket, and not have any assurance of it happening? It distracted my whole Air Force base date that day, and I should have never even responded to his cheap ass. But now: I’ll never have to worry about that again because: my number won’t be posted and they’ll have to do a bit more effort to reach me. I don’t have time for that shit anymore. Too many clueless people contacting all the time, who have no intention to coordinate anything. They just think a provider is going to fall into their lap (or other areas) with no sort of effort to figure out what can work. For example this article (because people love to compare our industry to other businesses…well let’s go ahead and compare it to other businesses 😂 GlowdayPRO - 30 Days Free WWW.PRO.GLOWDAY.COM If you’re not charging for your consultations, it might be time to ask yourself if that makes good...

I understand that but: I’m specifically talking about this profession. I know it happens elsewhere. By all means, I can go on any hookup app and experience that all day/everyday and think nothing of it. But we’re dealing with a different dynamic here. If I’m paying $$ to post on a site, I shouldn’t have to contend with the same level of flakiness as a free platform. And people have to do their part to acknowledge when they are coming off flaky, and be let known it’s not acceptable practice to do in the industry. I mean, look at that guy. More than 1 providers saying he stood them up. I have to wonder if they have said anything to him at all, and if they did: why would he continue? And on top of that, to someone the client has met before. We can keep making excuses for inconsiderate behavior, and relate to every other business: or we can at least address it and call it out when it happens. Many who behave that way, have no idea the inconvenience they may cause. I’m not saying ever interaction has to be an obligation to book: but people who know better and still do it: need to realize it’s unacceptable. And most specifically: I refer to the ones who: I respond to them, and they don’t reply back. And then a year later hit me back up trying to meet “today”. And when I reply back, they either don’t respond or do what the guy I mentioned does. That’s not just being a ghost or a flake. That’s someone who lacks etiquette, and needs to be let known. Now, if they enjoy escorts getting upset with them and do it on purpose: they deserve to be on every report and blacklist available. A First-time Client’s Guide to Escort Booking Etiquette TRYST.LINK The sex industry often feels mysterious to outsiders - full of rules and customs that aren’t... The sex industry is rife with ‘time wasters and tyre-kickers’ - would-be clients who never follow through after contacting an escort. If you want your first attempt at booking to be successful, you’ll need to stand out as a serious customer.

Sounds like DeJa Vu 🫤 But at the end of the day it’s like: the history of the world and the country has always been in upheaval since the beginning. You get a few years of peace, and then it’s back to the bullshit. Then peace, and back to bullshit. Rinse and repeat. But that’s why it’s good to have people who are willing to step outside the box and do something different. And the industry definitely needs that right now.

I feel 2008 was different in the way, that there were less escorts and more websites at the time. Now it’s just 2 main sites and a few for women or those that don’t really update their listings. Not to mention Sesta/Fosta wasn’t around and Texas (where I was living at the time) didn’t have such a ridiculous law regarding sex work. The industry has gone to hell in a 🧺 and thrown the baby out with the bath water since then 🤦🏾‍♂️ People wonder why there’s war and violence going on so much lately: it’s because everybody wants to control what someone else does. Jesus needs to come down and tell everybody: STFU and stop trying to make everyone conform to what is considered the right way 😂

Not necessarily always the case. Many younger gay guys are often required to live in the city, (and the most expensive cities at that because let’s face it: cities like Kansas City and St. Louis have gay scenes, but after a couple years you start to get tired of the same queens doing the same things: so that’s why places like Chicago, Los Angeles and Atlanta are more sought after) pay higher rent, drive a decent car, have money every weekend for drinks or dates, all while racking up debt by having a higher education and a couple credit cards. It’s plenty of resources out there that explains why it’s so hard to save…not just a “know how”. Not sure why I’m thinking kinky right now 😆 I’ve seen in August Provincetown have many visitors from New York as well. Didn’t get chance to make it up there this summer but hopefully in the Fall before winter 👍🏾

Not disagreeing with EZE, but I agree with this. Especially when you come to states and small towns outside the cities. A lot of people look like they’re doing okay but not always the case. And I know the escort industry has been hit first, in the worst: but you don’t hear about it in the news. I’m finding Adam4Adam has not been too great for biz, and there’s cities I have gone over the summer and only gotten one or 2 bookings. The friends I know who aren’t being crushed right now: are either working 2 and 3 jobs or getting a decent 100k salary to afford it. It’s all facade. I’m on different forums for sex work, and many have said that even escorting is hardly something you can do alone and survive off anymore. I’m feeling that. And like @stevenkesslar said, the 2011-2014 days were some of the better times for me. I was completely independent, didn’t have to often need to ask for deposits, and it wasn’t 100 guys all advertising at the same time. Now: it’s just a whole other game. That’s why I’m moving towards trying to get paid for the initial steps of booking clients because: I can’t rely on only meeting someone to get paid. I could get 10 booking ”inquiries“ over a course of a week, and not make anything. That’s why I need to be getting something, just for my effort to engage on the phone.

I would state what your budget is, without necessarily suggesting that you are telling them what to charge. Example Demo: You: How much? Provider: $400 You: Thanks, You’re definitely worth it. However I’m only able to budget $300 at this time. If that’s not possible I can reach out next month when I have enough saved. Provider: Oh ok, well if you’re willing to host/come to me, meet me between the hours of X and X, or come right now while I’m at this hotel, I can be willing to accommodate the $300 You: Great, thanks. Appreciate you working with me. I’ll be right over OR here’s my address, don’t worry about booking a hotel: 123 sexy street, Beverly Hills, 90210 This way no one feels flaked on, and the provider may still be willing to work with you, if you can make some concessions and accommodations yourself. No need to be ashamed and not buy what you want. However, don’t be slighted if you hear something different like: “i don’t offer any meets for under $XXX” It’s like when people contact me asking for a $100 session. My answer is usually always no, but after the last guy was very rude towards me, I’m not doing anything less than my minimum. Well, I understand it’s not that. Maybe I didn’t describe it enough. I think moreso it’s just that: there’s so many more providers out here popping up in markets that don’t really support the supply. Places like Denver and Nashville, and now even Kansas City, etc used to not have many providers…but more and more are flooding the market. In response it seems the clients come off less appreciative and seem to have a disposable attitude. That’s why my solution to the issue is to just get away from the saturated markets and focus on smaller locations instead. Well, just to clear you up: there’s no aging going on here lol. Though even if it was, it’s moreso supply and demand (as I explained up above) and, like you said…The implication of apps and how they can potentially have an effect on the biz in a broader dynamic. And just curious what’s the true implication of inflation that you’re looking to define?

Regardless: that 1 local guy you sent a deposit to had nothing to do with a deposit, considering you said everyone else you met were traveling providers. It was likely moreso because it was a local guy who probably would have jipped you with or without a deposit.

It sounds like you have only dealt with 5 providers then? If out of those 5, only 1 didn’t turn up. That wouldn’t quite speak for the throngs of other providers out there that are advertising, correct? Therefore it’s not quite possible to equate your experience as a hypothesis in the big scheme of things. You just happened to contact 5 guys, and 1 who asked a deposit didn’t show. And since he was local, you could provide the local area City that is. That would determine whether it’s a high chance of that happening. Just like I said: for every one (1) no show you can name, I could name 10. As for part 2, technically a missed (or flaked) client opportunity IS monetary loss. If I’m expecting to earn something based on a client contacting about a booking, and that client flakes/ghosts/suddenly doesn’t reply back: that’s $200-$400 that I thought I might be getting, that I wouldn’t. And that has a direct effect on my earning for that week. So my solution now: I don’t want to know, if it’s not happening. Show me the money and send a deposit, or pay something and we can do a consultation 1 on 1 privately, undivided attention. Boom. Issue resolved. Not assuming you’re directing that at me but: I just made nearly $500 over the weekend, and non of it was from meeting clients directly. It’s nothing to do with contempt or animosity. It’s moreso about setting boundaries, being innovative, being willing to think outside the box and do what’s best for the greater good of one’s biz and well being…not be persuaded or intimidated by antidotes suggesting since others don’t do something: I should do the same...at my peril. I’ve agreed to see clients too many times without a deposit, and got stood up too many times. Those days are over. I’m looking forward and towards the future 🚀

Eh, meh…that’s a tough one. But I get it. Sometimes I appreciate another escort reaching out to me, long as it’s not overtly sexual. One guy in St. Louis we’ve hung out. And in my earlier days I would occasionally reach out to others for references or verification on if a city was good to travel to (haphazard I know but, this way long time ago). There’s one advertiser, cute guy but who’s wanted to hookup with me in like 3-4 different cities, but it’s like: “come over and let’s fuck”. However, unless it’s someone from the forum…lately I don’t really mix with other advertisers as much. I can’t help but cringe when I’m hanging with someone and they’re like, “I have a client/with a client”. In my head I just be like: You can be around me all day long and not know I’m texting or making plans to meet a client.

Thanks, I mean at the end of the day we are farmers 👨🏿‍🌾 selling bananas 🍌, eggplants🍆 and apples 🍎 lol. And I agree, it does take an ability to sell your package and deliver. Which I’m great at in person and once I know the client is genuine. heck just last weekend I was able to get the co-owner of a gay bar to invite me back to his place (well he invited me and was already interested, but I just facilitated it), and now he’s going to be booking me for an overnight next time I’m in town. However, the issue is the initial riff raff of inquiries. Like I said, I’ve been in sales before and I know the need to be a “good sport” and not take things personal and be driven by emotions. But when an escort lives in area where people regularly disrespect sex workers, or conservative, unsafe, etc: A dude has to do, what a dude has to do. And in my case: I feel I can be a much better sales person if I only deal with CLIENTS, not “timewasters” and guys who think texting at 7 a.m. or telling you what hotel they’re in and if you’re available tonight, is just an inquiry that can be flaked on:

I understand that but, I don’t think our industry can be compared to that of the definition of “sales”. Many (not most, don’t quote me and I know there’s all levels and diversities of sales) sales jobs tend to be going after people who have no idea they want a product. The last “regular job” I had was in sales, and I left that for this. It was not at all similar. Clients contacted me, they wanted the product, I didn’t have to twist anyone’s arm, or sale some boring product/package (pun intended) I didn’t like, with a script and a bunch of quirky lines. Sales people also tend to have hours where they are dealing with that, and hours that they shut off. We never shut off. Clients will text/call us at all hours, in cases where we aren’t even in the position to converse with them at that moment. Then out of kindness, I’ll respond back, only to be met with dismissive, indecisive, unreliable behavior. Why. Why should I keep doing that for free? I wish I could think of something to compare our industry to, but I can’t at the moment. Uber/Lyft is probably the only modern day thing that has a direct comparison. But their business model is way different. The drivers don’t handle clients, the app handles everything for them. We don’t have that luxury. We place a ad, and have to basically run the entire ship 🛳️ from start to finish. Meanwhile RentMen just sits back and chill, while collecting our payments (no diss at them, but just stating the facts because they are simply an advertising platform). It’s not that I’m frustrated at the business (I know hard to believe) it’s just I want a different way of doing things. Yes there’s some frustration I’m always having to respond to “inquiries” at unpredictable times, only to deal with bullshit like above, and not even get paid for it. Yes, that is frustrating, who wouldn’t? Tell me someone who wouldn’t be frustrated after they waited 30 minutes at a gas station in their car, for a client to confirm: only for that client to then cancel and…AND say they are going to call someone else? You wouldn’t be frustrated? At 10:30 at night? And you live an hour away? This is why I decided it’s time to move to getting something for each “inquiry”. I’m asking $20 now, if I client wants to reach me. That’s not much to ask. That way I can get/share details and figure out if it’s something that can happen. But I can’t keep doing that all day everyday, just to hear one excuse after the next after I volunteered my time. If they can’t do that, they probably just using my line for free entertainment or a bit of attention.

That’s why I don’t even like to tell people how long I’m in a city at all, and just say I’m playing by ear. Of course that’s dependent on driving versus flying in (which I rarely ever do for that reason). I know I tried to let you know I was only 4 hours from Buffalo couple months ago, but I know that’s too much notice for some people 😂

Just be careful because: I’ve found on two occasions clients have blocked me (one did it because he was being a flake and I told him off, and the other was a regular client who was likely married and would do the block/unblock thing). Well guy A had pulled a fast one by emailing me on RentMasseur. We met and everything after he sent a deposit. I had no idea it was the same guy I told off previously. Well a few months later he hits me up again on a hookup app (I’m sure we know where that’s going). No response all day, and I’m only in town for 1 night. He then texts me in the evening just as I’m about to start driving to the next city because I waited around for him all afternoon and didn’t hear nothing back until then. I text him back, but messages are in green (instead of blue which means delivered on iPhone). Partly why I stopped using Google voice for my ad phone and switched to iPhone. So I’m like, he must have forgotten to unblock me 🤔 Needless to say, his game is over with after what I told him last time 😂 Which kinda sucks because the time we did meet, was a great time. But it was more than a time or 2 that he’s left me hanging or switched up last minute. Better to just be transparent with people, because he might ask “did you get that message I sent about my Black Friday sale??” And if you say no, he’ll know you blocked him and might feel slighted.

Jokes aside, I don’t feel we as providers need to run our ship 🚢 based on what people feel escorts SHOULD do, nor operate the same way, year after year. If someone wants to receive a nominal “honorarium” (pardon Vin for stealing your word lol) to arrange a session, by all means that’s their personal business. As long as they aren’t scamming or ripping anyone off, there should be no judgement. Theres no rule in the escort Bible saying: “you must answer to all texts and phone calls before receiving payment, even if you have no idea they aren’t just wasting your time and playing the same game with 5 other escorts”. If someone can show me that, then I’ll reconsider it. I feel I’ve done everything I needed to do. Sitting around and answering additional texts for free round the clock, is not one of them. And let’s face it, we’re not selling cars or homes and getting $10,000 commission checks. Like I said before, the pay isn’t enough to take on every client inquiry, unless every text inquiry that ever reached my phone, were certain to actually book. Which like you said; never gonna happen 🤷🏾‍♂️

I appreciate it and know you mean well. But there’s not necessarily much else to tell me lol. I made my decision, and of course with your help I can feel better that I don’t have to be FOMO about having my phone number available on RM. I just feel at the end of the day, things are how they are for a reason. I find it ironic that on my own site, people get quicker to the point than those who send messages on RentMen. I come right from the start with what I offer, and what’s needed. I feel RentMen and some of these other sites, don’t do enough along each step to acknowledge that we’re not available for free. It shouldn’t be “do a bunch of work and then I’ll pay you after”. It should be, “I’m booking an Uber, where’s my credit card?” Nobody calls Pizza Hut and keep the person on the phone for 60 minutes, asking how big is the pizza, what’s it include, and then say “I’m not ready to eat yet”. That would be asinine. It’s no reason I should have to be asking friends for money (like I’ve had to do like 3-4 times last month) and then be sitting around answering texts day after day. Those people should be booking and paying the money they pretended they wanted to give me, in the first place. If they aren’t ready to plan a visit or send a deposit when they contact me, there’s no reason I should have to do that for free, with no proof of it actually happening. All that does is leave the door open for them to be a flake, play some bullshit games and then act like they are so innocent…only to do it again and again down the line. Even though the client/escort pool is expansive, I find it’s often the same ones who come back around, playing the same game they played 2 years ago. The industry is actually smaller than it seems.

Too late, I’ve already updated my website and gone ahead and gone back to requiring $20 to book a consultation for inquiries. I did it earlier this year and it went okay, but going into the holidays where the psycho bullshitters really come out, I’m not hesitating for another day. This is my thing: the information is already posted. My rates are already on my website, what they need to know is also there, pics/dick size etc etc. it’s nothing more information they need other than, “Should I send the deposit on cash app, Venmo or your website” and “this is what I want to get into”. Anything else is just dragging stuff out. And the reason WHY in this particular case I was not having it is because, the area of town this guy was in: I was just in that area shopping and had killed several minutes waiting for another client to confirm. Other client confirms and sends deposit but then immediately has to cancel. But where I stay is a good trek from that area. I’m basically telling him: if you want to meet tonight, I need to know soon. Because once I leave that area of town and head home, I won’t be able to get back up there the same night because it’s too far. Thats like you being in Los Angeles, and having some client tell you he’s interested when you’re about to be headed to Palm Springs. But then takes forever to confirm. And like clockwork, you get back to Palm Springs and he’s like, “R u still available in LA 🤦🏾‍♂️ On top of that, there’s more to the story. Like I said before, he’s contacted and met me once previously last year. So no need for him to be acting dumb like he needs more information. And this is a message I already told him all the info he needs: Now…he never texted or responded back after that message when I said I’d be available in St. Louis. Now he wants to text me 10 months later and book a visit like I wouldn’t remember: And the only reason he even got the chance to get a reply from me, is because I seen our previous texts. It wasn’t until after he started BSing that I referenced his number and showed he’s ripped off scheduling other providers as well. So it’s not just about paying to be asking for information. I don’t have the capacity to be dealing with nonsense people, nor do I think it’s right that I’m sitting around answering all these texts and not even getting paid minimum wage for it. RentMen isn’t our employer. I have bills getting backed up, because I have a whole phone feed full of messages from piece of shit guys like him, who never manage to book an appointment. I don’t have time for that anymore. THAT is why I am starting to require paying to get info. And I’m glad you’re able to still meet good clients out there with your strategy, but not every place is the same and not every person is treated the same. People just have to recognize inequality in the sex work industry and ACKNOWLEDGE it, period. It doesn’t have to go into politics or race, but just recognize there’s inequality in the business. Some clients may treat other providers differently, than perhaps someone like yourself. You may attract a better clientele by not showing your number, than someone who’s client base is looking for quick big dicks, without any hurdles (aka, texting and not paying a deposit, and getting to flake whenever they feel like it).

I’m just over the mixed messages. They try to sugar coat it by saying they only made an inquiry and didn’t book a time. When in reality they asked for an appointment, but didn’t hold up their end of it. Simple as that. It doesn’t take making a time/place, etc (which as you can see, was done with other providers and still fell thru). I can understand an inquiry just looking at pics and asking a question. But a late night text asking if I can come to his hotel is a solicitation for something taking place. If they don’t think much of it, they’re a piece of shit. It’s like, if that person didn’t want the booking: why even go out your way to contact and invite me? That is just so tacky. It’s delusional to “line me up” by making an inquiry and then claim to have no intent to follow thru on it.

Dude claiming to have contacted me today for just an inquiry 🤦🏾‍♂️ Then later he’s talking about: Meanwhile, I’m being made out to seem like I’m crazy despite what others saying 🤦🏾‍♂️ I’m just at a point, I’m tired of this shit. I don’t have time for childish, insincere, indecisive, inconsiderate, uncooperative, unreliable…list goes on. To make it so bad, this person actually booked me ONCE before. So it’s like, he should already know the drill. Why not just ask me out like a NORMAL FUCKING PERSON and book a session, or say: hey Jarrod I am coming to xxx and want to book for xxx date. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus 🤦🏾‍♂️ take the wheel. I am going back to charging $10-$20 to be contacted for “inquiries” again, effective tonight. I’ve wasted my time 3 times already in the last 24 hours dealing with nonsense like this. Some of these clients out here think we are a free conversation piece and expect us to sit around and wait for them to make decisions with no sort of commitment. As if I have nothing better to do with my life, than to wait on them to “possibly” get back to me. This is another reason I can’t wait to get out of my current market (full of flaky, indecisive dudes who love to harass escorts as free entertainment and MIGHT book IF and only IF they get to waste your time a few times over a course of a couple years, and have the patience of a saint to not go off or block them 🤦🏾‍♂️ , but I find this is a big American issue almost everywhere. I’m also writing a letter to rentmen and RentMasseur asking if they can start charging clients to contact/get our number. So when it happens, you can thank me later 🎤 ✌A deposit isn’t enough. These people need to go thru 3rd party or pay before reaching us. The ease of them to bullshit and play games is way out of control.

I just need to say as well: this type of advice needs to be addressed and moderated (hint hint). It’s one thing to have an opinion or preference, it’s entirely different when making generalizations that’s not true. Especially when you throw in guarantee in the mix. You’ve gone beyond a preference and basically just make an incorrect (borderline slanderous) suggestion about providers who charge deposits. Even though this is a forum where opinions are welcome and exchanged, I don’t think that’s a pass to start throwing out potentially damaging assessments based on…bad apples. As I’ve said before: there’s plenty stories I can tell of clients getting ripped off without a deposit. Even with cash. I’ve seen it right before my eyes. There’s also plenty stories I can tell of clients who send deposits and flake themselves. By denigrating everyone who charges deposits, you’re basically perpetuating the discrimination and prejudice towards sex workers, by making us out like to be frauds and scammers. And that does nothing to fuel decrim that would help bring about a more honest and safe exchange: which would like you said, help facilitate a society where one CAN be free to contact police if a client or provider ever ends up in a potentially harmful situation.

Oh you mean like: But at the end of the day, I don’t have time for all that. People like this detract from the overall purpose of being in the business. Like I said earlier, I don’t mind sending them away if they always have an excuse. Even though I didn’t go out of my way or lift a finger, as I didn’t without a deposit: If I did make arrangements, that would have been setting my whole afternoon, booking a room only for him to never get back to me. And that’s why I don’t do it. I understand where you’re coming from but, at the end of the day: people don’t necessarily treat us with the customer service values you harp on. Also, unlike other industries: we’re not obligated to act in perfect smiling, no confrontation, take the abuse. They do that for the greater image of the company and to make the brand, name and superiors look good. RentM isn’t an employer so therefore, we set our own rules and boundaries. I’ve also said before: some areas deposits are more required than others. In cities where people tend to be habitual flakers/stand ups/or risky inquiries (Kansas City/St. Louis, Dallas/Houston, Tampa, Indianapolis, Phoenix to name a few), I wouldn’t dare work without a deposit. Matter fact, I did work in all those cities without deposits, and experienced lot of nonsense and wasting of money believing clients would show up or other clients would book if another flaked. And that’s why I don’t do it. But it’s a select few others that I could trust clients to come thru either by genuine sincerity or lack of other options in abundance. Even then, I try to still mention it. Trying to go back to doing business without doing any deposits, is not something I’m willing to go back to. Right, and I often say: for every 1 time a client has been ripped off, multiply that by 10 for the escorts..