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How to get providers to arrive on time
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
Some would hope that the friend/electrician/whoever might arrive while the action is still taking place and join in. I’m very anxious to turn up on time for my clients and definitely don’t want to mess up their schedule. However the prospect of a visitor showing up during the session is quite exciting! An audience or another willing participant is not a bad thing for me. Probably best to say your mother is visiting…that would focus minds 🙂 -
I like the surprise of what my client looks like when I open the door. Some clients send pics but I really don’t want them, it’s much better to not know what the client looks like. I met a client a few months ago at his hotel. He said he’d have his partner with him this time. That’s fine by me, as long as they know what the meeting is about. I’ve seen the client on his own previously, he’s around 55 and in average shape. He likes me to massage him on the bed (I don’t like bed massage but hey, he’s paying so he calls the shots) and he enjoys a lot of body contact and sucking etc. Lovely guy and he seems to enjoy my style as he’s a regular. I didn’t know what to expect by way of his partner, or what they both wanted. I just assumed they’d each have a massage and it would probably end up with the 3 of us at some point during the session. My client doesn’t specify a duration and as it’s a hotel out call I usually block out at least 3 hours just in case. I turn up to the hotel on the day and text to say I’m in the lobby (hotel requires key to access the lift, it’s one of those 5 star ones in central London). My client says he’ll be down to get me. As the lift opens I see my client (he’s very recognisable) and with him is a slim dark haired and olive skinned female I’m guessing around 35, who he introduces to me as his partner. This was a big surprise to me, I’d expected a guy as his partner…although I hadn’t completely discounted a female partner. In the lift to the room she is chatty and very engaging. Once we’re in the room my client says he’d like to watch me massage his partner, so that’s what happens. I massage her as he watches (fine with me, an audience is always welcome) and he occasionally gives us direction. She’s very responsive and interactive so the massage goes well. For me the surprise was a good thing. Had I been sent a pic beforehand it would probably have taken the edge off the session. I do wonder whether my client had hired her for the session. They clearly knew each other and were very comfortable but I got the feeling she was a professional. Anyway my client was happy and he saw a good show lol.
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I mean a good proportion of the 50% of enquiries that don’t end up as bookings are because I wasn’t available at the time they wanted. Some don’t book because I’m too expensive, some don’t book because I’m a guy (yes, I get enquiries believing I’m female…some of them are hilarious) and one last week thought I was based in Australia (God knows why?). So it’s often just practical reasons they don’t book, not because they’re being flaky.
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That’s an interesting concept. I’ve had clients who like to be blindfolded (especially during an undressing ritual at the start). I find that I’m often not looking at the body, since feel can be improved if you have your eyes closed but I’d not want to massage blindfolded because sometimes it’s important to see the body. I’m thinking of looking for skin conditions, varicose veins or injuries that the client might not have mentioned. It’s not very sexy but hey one has to think of these things when massaging!! Plus if I’m going to suck his cock I like to visually check out it’s suitable to go down my throat if you know what I mean.
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100% agree with @Storm4U. When clients contact with a request to book stating a day, time and duration then they’re not going to flake. There’s loads of information about me, pics (even a demo video), my massage styles, location, rates, testimonials etc for anyone to make a decision to hire me before contacting me, so that by the time they contact they’re already committed to book. Then it’s just practical questions about the session and any requests they have. Those that begin the message with ‘I’d love a massage’ or ‘hey sexy’ or ‘how much is it?’ or even worse…a dick or bum pic…are highly unlikely to book and it’s pointless me engaging with them beyond my initial response. I simply direct them to my website and say if they’d like to book a time to let me know the date/time/duration they’d like. 50% of my enquiries end up as bookings, and 99% of those booked turn up. No deposits are taken, no ‘sex chats’ are engaged in, no bargaining over rates happens - I never discount, and no fantasists are indulged. But I’ll bend over backwards (literally 😂) for genuine clients who appreciate great sensual massage, especially my regular clients.
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Could mean 4 hands ( which can be therapeutic but is more usually erotic) or some special type such as one done on a futon or floor or even one with restraints etc. I read it as a ‘catch all’ so that a provider can indicate they are open to providing more esoteric massage styles. So if his advert says ‘other’ it’s an invitation to ask for something unusual or hybrid. I’ve given all sorts, therapeutic, sensual, erotic, 4 hands, 6 hands, duo, tandem, restrained, tickling, on floor, on bed, on table, on screen (live streamed demo to an audience on all 5 continents). There are as many varieties of massage as your imagination can dream up!
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Providers: What would make you leave the room?
+ Jamie21 replied to crushme99's topic in Questions About Hiring
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Providers: What would make you leave the room?
+ Jamie21 replied to crushme99's topic in Questions About Hiring
Drugs paraphernalia. If the client is drunk. Others in the room whom I had not expected to be there (I love an audience of course but I do need to know who they are). If he’s a cop, great! I love a guy in uniform. None of these has ever happened to me. -
How to get providers to arrive on time
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
Oh I’m sure that you take the work very seriously @Jarrod_Uncut. I wasn’t including you in the 80% 🙂. Though I do argue that “after 7:30” is too vague…”between 7:30 and 8” is better. Most of the issues between mismatched expectations arise from wrong assumptions made by either party so I try to reduce the risk of those happening. -
How to get providers to arrive on time
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
That seems too vague for me. “After 7” could mean anytime after 7. I would have said “ok I’ll turn up at 7:30 is that ok?”. I always book clients for a specific time. I’m finding that clients like promptness and clarity around arrangements and this is good. I have many demands on my life, I do other work, so having my day planned is important (even though I like dong things spontaneously). I find the worst culprits for flakiness and not committing to plans are models who I film porn with. Clients are easy to deal with in comparison to filming partners. I have one of those ‘fans only sites’ (justforfans) for my massage porn. I need to shoot regular content because the fans expect a new movie every couple of weeks. Arranging the sessions is even more difficult than dealing with flaky clients. I have to coordinate a location (hotel or studio), my filming/lighting guy, the model who will perform with me, agree with them what we will shoot etc. A few models are very professional and we get it done easily but most just seem to film content randomly at the last minute on their phone…it looks rubbish. I now think that unfortunately many people in the sex work industry take a very casual view of it - hirers, sex workers, and those providing other services. There’s probably 20% of those involved taking a professional attitude as is more often seen in other areas of business and 80% viewing it as trivial and amateur. For me it’s my work, I like to take a serious approach and do it right. It’s actually much more fun and enjoyable work when it’s done well. -
Yes that’s exactly it. Can be very dangerous. That’s why it’s always advised to hydrate properly after a massage too.
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Nipple lovers rejoice! As a professional sensual masseur I seriously enjoy massaging nipples but it seems my clients fall into two categories: 1) those with sensitive nipples hard wired to their cock or 2) those who have no reaction to nipple play.
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How to get providers to arrive on time
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
I try hard to be on time. If someone hires me I figure that they’re probably doing something else afterwards so they expect me to be punctual otherwise things will be rushed…and no one wants that. This discussion reminds me of a time I turned up an hour early to an appointment. The client had hired me to join his session with another guy he’d hired after they’d had an hour or so together….I was to be the extra ‘energy’ joining the session part way through. But I made a mistake with my reading of the clock and turned up an hour early! I waited in the hotel lobby until they were ready for me. I’m able to manage many things well (money, relationships, house etc) but managing time is the most challenging thing. So difficult! -
How to get providers to arrive on time
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s extremely unprofessional. If they are that late without a reasonable excuse and an apology then don’t hire them again. Unfortunately this industry does have a lot of amateur providers who seem to treat it as a hobby and mess their clients around. -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
Think I hit a nerve 😂 -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
There have been intelligent replies but you haven’t understood them. When my interlocutor proves either unable or unwilling to engage in a reasoned discussion then I cease to engage with them at an intellectual level. The comment I made about wanker wasn’t for your reply either…it was to demonstrate to others who may be unfamiliar with British pejorative terms to demonstrate what a ‘wanker’ is. You could describe it as ‘someone who is frustrated by his inability to hire a provider to satisfy his sexual desires and who therefore has to resort to wanking to get release’. -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
And this is what we Brits call a wanker. -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
When people say “can somebody tell me etc”…..when someone does tell the person it usually results in the person rejecting the response because they don’t really want an answer, they just want their views confirmed. So, you’re right @Gadfly22 it’s reasonable to expect an almost instant response to any message. I suspect you will continue to send messages on the morning of the day you’re looking to hire, you’ll continue to get some late responses, and you’ll continue to be irritated by it. Happy hiring. -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
It certainly was interested in my leg. I wasn’t bothered by it sitting in its bed while I massaged the client but I wasn’t keen on the attention afterwards. Some people are very close to their pets and don’t like to lock them away while they have visitors. It’s fine as long as the pet is well behaved. I had another client who had a tortoise roam around the apartment while I was there. Very strange. -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s familiar. Reminds me of the time a client told me his dog likes to be in the room during the session. It sat quietly in its basket as I did the session, watching me for what seemed like the whole time. At the end there was some cum on my shin and foot. As I got off the bed to go in the shower the dog quickly left it’s basket and licked at my leg. I suspect the client had trained him… -
is this the "new normal" attitude?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
I agree with Karen … I take my phone everywhere with me so I can instantly reply to clients who might want me in the next 5 minutes. Oh…hold on someone is messaging……brb…. Ok that’s him serviced. Where was I? Oh yeah about clients needing 24/7 instant response. So I take my phone….oh another enquiry….brb Sorry about that, he wanted an outcall 20 miles away in half an hour. Just made it in time. Bit tired now as it was a long session. Sorry for delay in completing this post. Next client is in 5 minutes so I’ll be back later…. Ok that’s him done. Well actually we swapped places and he massaged me as I was too tired. I fell asleep on the table. I’m sure he had a good time as he’d left his load on my bum alongside payment. How thoughtful. Ok where was I? Oh yes I take my phone everywhere and as I write this I’m sitting on the toilet just responding to a client. I hope I don’t drop it dow *^%<#!’……. <error> -
Etiquette around blowing the Masseur
+ Jamie21 replied to Sammy0691's topic in Questions About Hiring
If you’re paying for my flight (first class) from London and my accommodation I’ll be there whenever you want 🙂 -
Etiquette around blowing the Masseur
+ Jamie21 replied to Sammy0691's topic in Questions About Hiring
I insist they shower beforehand. And I check the area for suitability for rimming It’s incorporated into a massage move…I don’t say “ok spread your cheeks I just got to check you’re clean”…. It’s all done very discreetly. If there’s an issue I won’t go there. my Ad https://rentmasseur.com/JamieW although if he’s in Raleigh he might have a long journey….I’m in London 🙂 -
Etiquette around blowing the Masseur
+ Jamie21 replied to Sammy0691's topic in Questions About Hiring
If you want a good massage then I’d suggest don’t hire an escort who massages. It’s likely the massage will be brief or not good. Not always of course, but massage isn’t the main purpose of the session. And don’t expect an escort service for a massage rate. It’s very difficult for me as a masseur who likes to include oral, rimming, prostate massage and kissing as part of the massage (these being a natural progression of sensual massage as a seduction towards release) to draw the line at where massage work ends and escort work begins. I’ve some regular clients where the session is now effectively both a proper massage and a sex session which is charged only at massage rates. My fault for letting that develop. I’m clear with clients about what’s not on offer as part of the massage but it doesn’t stop some trying unfortunately. -
Don’t be embarrassed! Your reaction is really quite normal, some people would suppress it but it’s nice that you didn’t do that. It sounds like he doesn’t have a big ego, which probably even adds to his attractiveness. I have had a few clients who have behaved similarly. It’s extremely flattering and yet I do find it difficult when clients behave in this way. As long as they realise that ultimately what happens between me and them is a transaction it’s ok, but if they get the wrong impression then that’s a problem.
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