Jamie21

Generally clients won’t want to pay deposits, that’s my experience. So I don’t do them. Only if a client has booked a 4 hands and they’re not a regular client will I consider a deposit (if I get signals that they’re a bit flaky). Setting up a 4 hands is complicated and if the client doesn’t show up it’s wasting 2 masseur’s time.

Yes I agree. You’ll get a better massage usually from someone who’s first a masseur than from someone who’s an escort and is doing massage to pad out the time. Masseurs are invested in giving massage so that’s their focus. Of course they’re good at massage, and the sensual elements and will go to intimate areas then your massage will be arousing and seductive, and your masseur will ensure it includes an appropriate climax.

When I’m with my American clients I use my best English accent, it always works a charm. Of course an Englishman will be able to immediately identify my class status as soon as I open my mouth…so it’s less useful with the locals, they can tell I’m just a Londoner. But a foreigner can’t tell and they assume I’m very posh (which indeed I am!). Of course if they want a cockney when I open my north and south then I can do that too. And now I realise it’s straying off topic so just to keep things straight…I’ll do the accent for a tip, ok?

The not wearing socks is something I can’t abide, especially with dress shoes. You’d never see that on Savile Row or Jermyn Street.

In Milan I felt totally under dressed even when I had my best outfit on. I tried so hard but effortless style just seems to be something only Italians can pull off. I just looked English regardless of what I wore. And yes…you can usually spot an American (you usually hear them first) and then you see them. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t blend in to the background. And then you find they are extremely polite in person. I’m not used to being called Sir (unless it’s in a Dom/sub porn situation!!) but Americans seem to like using the phrase…”yes sir” when responding to requests. It’s very charming to English ears. When someone is in a different culture it’s difficult to know what’s allowed etc so I’m not going to judge because a lot of what seems inappropriate behaviour is just through innocent mistakes. I find it quite funny to hear of some of the faux pas that happen.

Hilarious 🙂 I live there (if you count England as Europe….many don’t but that’s way off topic!). I’ve traveled all over Europe many times, to about 15 different countries. Never found people to be arrogant (even the French…) And to stay on topic, my European clients tend not to tip as much as Americans do. The tipping culture is different here.

Filming content with guys is difficult as handling some of the most flaky clients! I film with amateur volunteer guys who’ve never been in a porn movie before (it’s all done with consent forms / release agreements) and with other justforfans or Onlyfans models. The amateur guys are relatively easy to line up but oh my goodness some of the other porn models are so difficult to coordinate collaborations with. A few are professional, turn up on time etc but so many are either late to the shoot, won’t commit until virtually the day it’s happening or just take ages to reply to messages.

That’s a whole continent categorised then!

Yay! I’m in some of Rab’s videos. The one we did called “another 4 handed massage session” has been very popular. We recently had a client book a 4 hands because they’d seen that video. By the way…. I love how @soberguy described it as ‘practically famous’ 🙂.

I had a guy message me on Monday this week: “hi, are you available today?” My answer… “no sorry I’m busy”. On Tuesday he asked same question. I gave him same answer. On Wednesday he asked again. Same answer again (I did suggest he give more notice). Today (Friday) he asked and I was available. So the booking happened. Yay! I don’t mind clients booking like that as long as they don’t mind being told ‘no’ more frequently than ‘yes’. But I prefer them to book ahead if possible. Kind of intrigued at what he did on Thursday though….??

There’s also an alert system to warn of dangerous clients or those that refuse to pay.

Put it all on Black 17

Yes there’s an App called Client Rating According to Providers. You put in all the details of your clients performance after the session and it calculates a score, based on 7 key aspects; Approach to booking, Sociability, Sexual performance, Hygiene, Openness to experience, Likeability and Ease of service. You might hear providers discussing clients scores on the App before accepting a booking. You’d hear “what’s his A.S.S.H.O.L.E rating on the C.R.A.P. App?” If the client scores < 5 they’re either declined or the price goes up. I understand that Uber have copied the model…

That’s good. I’ve clients who have been very generous in taking me to clubs or for meals. It’s unusual of course but some clients do like to get to know you a little better outside of the actual session. It’s even more of a ‘thank you’ than a tip.

Hmm I agree with most of that except the last part. Sex work is a real job. It’s probably unconventional but it is real. Nor is it lucrative, not when you consider all the time involved beyond the actual time with the client.

Most of my clients don’t tip. I know they’re satisfied though because they come back. If I charge by card the card reader has an option to add a tip but I don’t use it because it seems like I’m expecting them to tip, so card payments never include a tip. About 20% of clients pay by cash and some of them add a tip. I don’t expect it though. I prefer that if they enjoyed their session they book again or leave a positive review.

Agree!! You pick clients as much as clients pick you. You learn how to market to attract quality clients, you learn how to provide a better quality service than the average (actually that’s not difficult; there’s lots of amateurs), you learn how to get clients to come back. High quality repeat clients are your core business. Get those and you’re doing great.

You sound like the ideal client.

I got my vaccination next week. Clinic prioritise sex workers.

Just don’t let him sleep.

Artie is fantastic. Beautiful guy, awesome masseur, friendly and professional. Tell him Jamie recommended him…you’ll get treated well!!

I think you should tell him what you thought of the experience before posting a review. Thinking personally I like to hear from my clients about what they genuinely felt about the session. Everyone can have an off day and he might have had other things on his mind. If you tell him about what you liked and didn’t like then he can explain why he wasn’t up to his usual standard. Then you can decide whether or not to leave a review. That’s of course from the perspective of a provider and I realise giving genuine feedback is only going to help your guy but maybe he’ll come back with some good reason and offer you a discounted repeat session when he’s more on his game?

It’s the least they could have done, I agree. But I was nice and fresh for when we did start.

I just misread the time. I’m not very good at reading the time, I think I’ve mentioned it previously in a post on here. So it was a genuine mistake although I bet my client and the other provider (who is actually a friend) did suspect I was trying to get in on their fun lol. As it was they got good use out of me when we did start on time!

I was once an hour early for a client by mistake. Didn’t realise until I knocked on his hotel door. I was scheduled to arrive during a session he had with another escort, as part two of his session. I had to wait in the bar until they were ready for me. It was fine, my mistake and I had stuff to be getting on with. Ironic really because I thought I was going to be late and had been rushing to get there!