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I keep records like that. Discreetly of course. Sometimes I find the note I kept is a bit cryptic “no feet” probably meant he doesn’t want feet massage rather than he lacks feet. I note only a few important details such as definite turn ons, dislikes and any physical characteristics that are notable. Recently I saw a guy who I’d seen about 18m prior. In my notes I had written ‘very responsive, likes kissing probably a top’. Suitably prepared I saw him for his second visit and it turned out he really didn’t want to kiss, was fairly passive and asked to get fucked. I think I might have misread his first visit, or got the wrong guy. That’s unusual though. Most of the time my notes really help, especially if he’s returning after a year or longer.
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I’ve had clients book me because they know of me from here. I guess it works the other way too…potential clients on here thinking to themselves ‘I’m not booking him’. On balance I think it can only be positive to be present in spaces like this. The more clients know what you’re like the more confident they can be in booking. It’s half the battle if a client is confident they got the right guy for them before they walk through the door. I’m not here though just for business (I say without irony ….conscious that my sign off is promoting my website and fans sites 😂). I like the community insight the platform provides. I like the sharing of info and ideas and the largely respectful and constructive way it’s done, from both masseurs/escorts and clients. Online there are very few spaces like that so it’s important to nurture and value such a space when you find it.
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Exactly. It appears he’s trying to direct traffic to his OF which is monetised. If he’s available for hire he’d definitely not want to discuss that on his OF profile because that will get his OF banned. I get guys messaging me on my OF profile asking about booking me and I simply can’t reply because of the risk. All I can say is ‘send me a DM via X’.
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What level of restaurant and hotel do you go with providers?
+ Jamie21 replied to Dingdi's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’ve been taken to Annabel’s in Berkeley Square (private high end London club for those not familiar) by a client, and to a chain coffee shop for a coffee and cake. It really doesn’t matter (although it did feel special at the club…the toilets are astonishing!) it’s the company that matters most. That said, I prefer an out call at a quality hotel rather than a lower end chain hotel. It just somehow feels a bit downbeat at those chain hotels. The walls are thin too. -
I’d say yes you can. I’m on Rentmasseur only but I get clients asking for escort style services, it’s fine by me and I think most guys advertising on RMasseur are comfortable working in that grey area between escort and masseur. If he advertises therapeutic only then maybe avoid asking for anything sexual but if he offers sensual or erotic go ahead and ask what the lines are.
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Mobile massage therapy - I don't know what I don't know
+ Jamie21 replied to Ryan Gressel's topic in Questions About Hiring
Good luck! Here’s what I learned (not exhaustive). If you’re travelling get a table that’s portable. First one I got was lovely and comfortable but just too big and heavy to carry any distance. Go by gut instinct to avoid ‘time waster / difficult’ clients. If in doubt, decline the business. It’s just not worth it. You get better at identifying the red flags as time goes by. Keep records. A big spreadsheet. Very important. Clients need to have a suitable space for the table. Often they forget that you need to be able to walk around it. When they book, check this with them. Get some decent professional pictures done for your advertising. It shows you’re taking the job seriously. …and that part of your message tells me you’ll be successful. I totally agree with getting into ‘the flow of the massage dance’ and listening to the body. 🙂 -
I’d say it’s the difference between using a bulb and using the shower attachment….. 😉
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Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?
+ Jamie21 replied to WorthJayson's topic in Questions About Hiring
Yes, and it can also get divorced from the audio in a phone call. Nothing beats sitting across from, or even better next to someone when they explain what they want. Writing it down or speaking it over the phone can be too difficult. Sometimes I get clients like that. They really don’t want to put it in a text, and definitely not speak to me on the phone (no one under 65 makes phone calls any more!). They want an opportunity at the start of the session for a conversation and that’s where they ask. It can be quite difficult to work out how long someone wants for that chat. I remember one guy telling me on text that he wanted to talk to me before the session about what he’d like. I assumed it would be just something brief like ‘nothing on my feet, my foreskin is tight so be gentle and lots of body contact etc’ but it was much more profound. I sat next to him on the table, held his hand while he told me why he was here and how he felt. It was an unburdening; both mental through the chat and physical through the massage. There’s no way he could have conveyed what he needed in a text or phone call. An incredibly emotional experience. That can only be done in person. -
Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?
+ Jamie21 replied to WorthJayson's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s exactly what a good provider does when you meet him first time. I’ve said it before, regarding sensual massage: you’re working the mind as well as the body. The mind is the biggest sex organ (even if he’s 10 inches 😂). -
Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?
+ Jamie21 replied to WorthJayson's topic in Questions About Hiring
People get embarrassed to ask, especially in writing. It can make it very difficult. I encourage guys to be clear because it’s not going to offend me but still they are reluctant. Perhaps they don’t want a record anywhere out of fear of lack of discretion or even getting into legal trouble in those backward countries where it’s unlawful to hire for sex (yes I’m talking about you 🇺🇸). I find clients can be very coy about asking. It’s difficult to guess from subtle hints and innuendo. There’s phrases that come up often such as; ‘what’s included?’ which is so open as to be pointless, ‘how erotic does it get?’ …answer: ‘It’s 4.3 on the erotic scale of course (like the Richter scale - it’s exponential 😉)’… and ‘will you be naked?’ which I translate to ‘I want to suck you’. Then there’s the text that arrives asking ‘full service?’ (and not always with a question mark)…It is at least direct I guess. And the ‘what is the most you offer?’ or words to that effect….which gets the reply ‘what is your budget?’ (actually it doesn’t because we all know that those requests never result in a booking - they’re 99% sure to be a time waster). Often guys are hyper respectful of massage therapy and will ask lots of questions about technique and areas of their neck / shoulders etc which are tight. We discuss what they’d like me to work on…then right at the end of all those questions they raise the elephant in the room and ask furtively ‘and how does it end?’ …I’m often tempted to say ‘I like to spoon for a short while after I’ve bred a guy’ but that’s probably over promising so I just send a ‘💦😉’ which seems to be sufficiently subtle for these ‘I’m booking a legit massage’ buyers. If there’s a specific activity you definitely want then you just have to ask directly. If that’s difficult, find a porn film that shows the action and send him a link - even better if your guy is in it!. I get a few clients sending me links to films I’ve done saying ‘I want this please’. It’s nice to know they’ve watched you, and as someone once said ‘a picture is worth a thousand words’. -
Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?
+ Jamie21 replied to WorthJayson's topic in Questions About Hiring
Could be the inclusion of kissing. That does change the dynamic of a session. Like you say, his rates your choice. -
Do bottoms enjoy tops who can keep going for hours?
+ Jamie21 replied to Constantine's topic in The Lounge
Yes! I find lots of clients aren’t sure what they want. They might tell me or think that they want to be pounded for hours but they don’t really want that when you get under the surface. Clients ask for physical activities because that’s easy to ask for. But what you have to think about is how the client wants to feel. I translate the physical requests “pound me for hours”, “lots of body contact”, “wear short shorts when you open the door”, “work hard on my glutes” into how they want to feel: ‘like a slut’, ‘desired’, ‘seduced’, ‘carefree’, ‘not judged’….that kind of thing. What people ask for is not necessarily what they want. -
Works both ways. Last week I had an enquiry about availability via RentMasseur. He asked if I was available in the next couple of days. I replied within 10 minutes to advise my availability….no reply back from the client. Ok so I’m the service provider, he isn’t obliged to reply if he’s no longer interested or he can’t do the times I offered. If he asks again though, I’ll take into consideration that he’s probably flaky…
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But if he shares his Grindr cruising with you that’s a different thing. I had a client who liked me to go on Grindr while I was with him. I’d show him the messages, ask him to help me reply, and scroll through guys with him discussing who we liked and why. If there was someone we both liked he’d ask me to message them to see if they wanted to join us. Of course because it was Grindr the guys we messaged were never available now (always some excuse….) and tbh I think if we did get someone to agree to visit my client would have panicked!! However it was a fun diversion between our play and he enjoyed the vicarious experience of being me on Grindr and directing my replies and who I should message.
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I’m interested to hear what they say. They’ll want to know how the licking felt (was it ‘ohh that felt nice’ or was it ‘go deeper…ugh…yeah…ugh I’m gonna blow!)? They’ll also need to know if he’s naked, how hard he is and is there a bottle of lube easily to hand? None of these in isolation means it’s no longer therapeutic but a combination of 2 out of 3 means it’s now a non therapeutic massage. You’ll probably get notified by the licensing board. They send a man round and he puts a sticker on your hole saying ‘no entry’ if it was a therapy massage.
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I did, and because Elon fired everyone there there’s no reply from them apart from an automated response. They’re hopeless.
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Yes! All my pictures are me. It’s pointless using someone else’s pictures. Although there’s someone on X who is using my pics and videos and pretending to be me. That’s annoying.
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Advertising on Masseurfinder vs Rentmasseur
+ Jamie21 replied to FrancisCA's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’ve considered advertising on MFinder but the cost seemed prohibitive. I only advertise on RentMasseur and seem to get sufficient business from them. I also advertise on a couple of other UK focused sites (that are free). I guess my pictures and style fit the RentMasseur vibe! -
If Size Matters, What's Your Minimum For Masseur/Escort?
+ Jamie21 replied to Knightrider's topic in The Lounge
Depends how long your legs are 😉 -
When guys post unsolicited pics of various body parts - holes or whatever - they’re doing it for themselves not for the viewer. Whether some will like to see it or be repulsed is not of much concern to the pic poster. The important thing is to be seen. Pics and videos of my hole are available. You know where 👀
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If Size Matters, What's Your Minimum For Masseur/Escort?
+ Jamie21 replied to Knightrider's topic in The Lounge
I thought you were going to follow that up with ‘….so long as it reaches the ground when he stands naked’ -
It’s a very different dynamic indeed massaging a female client to massaging a male client. The female arousal cycle is slower, goes in plateaus and is more intense when it finally reaches a climax. There needs to be more than just physical stimulation. Very different indeed to a guy. More complicated.
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Why don't masseurs include their hours in their ad?
+ Jamie21 replied to moonlight's topic in Questions About Hiring
Because it’s generally variable. In theory I’m available 24/7. In practice it tends to be 10am to about 9 on weekdays, daytime at weekends, very limited on Sundays (obviously I’m at Church). It’s better if clients ask for whatever time they want, and the further in advance they ask the more likely it is I can do it. Those that ask ‘are you free now or in the next couple of hours’ invariably get told ‘no’. -
Do bottoms enjoy tops who can keep going for hours?
+ Jamie21 replied to Constantine's topic in The Lounge
No, and when I top, nor do I want to go at it for hours. It’s actually quite unimaginative to do so. I prefer to mix it up; inside for a bit, then suck, swap roles, then go back in, then cuddle a while, rim each other, kiss. It’s much better than pounding away for hours. -
Fantasies that you NEVER want to actually live out
+ Jamie21 replied to + Just Chuck's topic in The Lounge
Reading this makes me extremely sad. Some fantasies should stay just as fantasies, because often the reality is never as good as the imagination. But when a fantasy is simply to be free, well that’s one that everyone deserves to feel. I hope you find it. Never give up on it.- 23 replies
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