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I’m sorry to hear this. It sounds like the guy you hired is indeed a caring person and cares about your feelings which must make it worse. However clearly despite being passionate with you he doesn’t share your feelings. I think sometimes clients misread passion as indicative of deeper feelings, especially if you include kissing. I love kissing but I’m careful as to how it’s perceived. I totally understand his non response when you told him you loved you felt when with him. It’s similar to situations I have had when it appears that a client is ‘crossing a line’. They say things like that, they start sharing quite personal things, and they send lots of messages. It becomes really difficult to remain friendly, so as to maintain the relationship (in essence a commercial relationship) whilst keeping a distance. Sometimes you just have to respond with silence because to say ‘I like you but if it wasn’t for the payment I wouldn’t be here’ is to let too much daylight in upon magic and is personally hurtful. No one wants to do that to a client so you just say nothing and hope the message gets through. I hope you’re able to see it now in hindsight for what it was. If you hire someone, regardless of how it appears, always remember that if it wasn’t for the money he almost certainly wouldn’t be there, and if you’d like that to change it’s up to him to initiate it.

I agree with @DGHouIt’s possible to make a lot more money on OF, for less work. Especially once you have a catalogue of content on the platform. You can post a couple of videos over a month and your subscriber income could be thousands or tens of thousands, depending on how popular you are. These videos are shot in one day, with collaborators you like and then you might spend a few hours editing them. I pay a guy to edit and film some of my videos because I don’t have the interest or time to do the editing. I like the client work though so I prefer to keep both in person client work and the filming but I can easily see how for some popular guys the Onlyfans model is preferable. They also tend to travel a lot doing collaborations across the world so that makes it difficult to see clients in person.

A client said that to me once, quite convincingly. So I went slow but …I hardly touched the sides. My face must have looked surprised, until with a wink he added ‘today’ to the sentence.

This. I genuinely enjoy the work. I guess that comes over with clients. I think when you come across any worker in any job you can usually tell if they really like the job or if they’re mostly just going through the motions and not really engaged with the job. With a sex worker, because of the proximity and the very personal nature of the work it’s very easy to see and feel the difference of someone enjoying their work vs someone who is just ‘present’ in body only. So I think as a client you could quite easily misread that in a BFE as ‘he has feelings for me’ when it’s really ‘he is enjoying his job’. Be very careful with that because it can lead you to great disappointment. I had a regular client where the sessions were great, I guess they must have been because he kept coming back. To me he was a nice client, but just that…another client who I’d not think about until his session or at the time he booked. Unfortunately I didn’t see it coming but one time during a session he told me he loved me. At first I made light of it because I didn’t think he was serious but then he repeated it with total conviction. I didn’t know what to say but when I looked into his eyes I could see that my reaction had hurt him and I felt so bad for him. He told me he’d been thinking about me for ages and he wanted to take me on holiday with him. We didn’t get to discussing my rate for that because I suspected he thought I’d reply with ‘I love you too’ and we’d be in a relationship. I had to tell him that the feelings weren’t mutual…although he must have known from my initial reaction to his statement. He didn’t want to hear it though and he wanted me to reconsider and maybe I was just not seeing it. I had to be really blunt with him which was awful. I was so surprised that he had misread the situation so badly. Of course he’s never booked again. So I’d say be really careful about mistaking his expertise at his job for something else. 99.9% likely it’s going to end up badly.

They’re on my justforfans (link below). I’ve filmed a few with him, initially when he wasn’t showing his face.

Maybe they’re teasing you? Or it genuinely is just the site for sharing the number of known trouble makers?

You have 3* on there (out of 5*) not bad but I think you need to up your game a little to get to 4*. Tip better, do more groaning and say “harder… ugh it’s so big” regularly during the session, and arch your back more when you’re on your front. Otherwise you seem to have some decent reviews on there (except for the 1* in Sep,23…what happened there? I guess we can all have a bad day). I can’t share the website because of data protection laws. But if you keep doing a good job as a client I’m sure your rating will improve. Seriously though! …no such site exists. No one is interested in rating clients, there’s no practical way to organise it since there’s no register or website of clients advertising their potential custom. All anyone cares about is whether a client is going to be a time waster, refuse to pay or is crazy (or all 3 which is usually the case). You can tell that when they contact you 99% of the time. There are some sites where the phone number of seriously troubled individuals are shared so that guys know who they are but these don’t ‘rate’ clients. It’s solely from a safety and security perspective.

When I filmed with him I’m sure he wasn’t giggling! He was asking me to go harder. Lovely guy by the way. Very hot, genuinely sweet.

What’s worse is he was minister for war. Made him vulnerable to blackmail.

I agree with you on that! For most providers ‘in call’ means you the client are going to his normal place of work which he is responsible for. His rate will be all inclusive. ‘Out call’ will be the escort or masseur is visiting you at your place which you are responsible for. Usually that’s your hotel where you are staying or your home. The provider will have an out call rate which is usually more than their in call rate because of the additional travel time and cost for them. In none of these scenarios does the cost of providing accommodation arise directly. It’s assumed as a given that whoever is hosting is covering the cost. When the cost of accommodation does arise is when neither party to the arrangements has a venue to host, which means someone has to book a hotel and take a risk with the cost of that if the other party subsequently flakes. This model is operated by providers who travel. I won’t comment on its practicality because I don’t operate like that. If I get a client who doesn’t want to visit me for an in call and who can’t or won’t host for an out call then the meeting isn’t happening.

A few of my clients have this. Massage helps.

Most providers are flexible, ask for what you want. If they are ok to do it they’ll say yes, if not…it’s a ‘no but…’ and you can find an arrangement that works. I have my set offerings but guys ask me for things they want and I’m always happy to vary things up if it’s in my repertoire.

I have clients who are involved in politics. One of them is a member of our upper chamber (I’m in 🇬🇧). Here it doesn’t matter too much. We don’t have those religious conservatives …they left a few hundred years ago by boat. Not sure where they went 😉.

It’s a thing. I’ve had clients who like to watch while I massage their wife. It’s usually a cuckold scenario especially if the husband is not well endowed. However it can be challenging to schedule because often it’s the husband’s idea and he wants to surprise his wife. I can’t do surprises so unless he’s prepared to get his wife to speak to me and sign consent forms it can’t happen. Both partners have to definitively be in agreement to the arrangements.

I prefer clarity. If the time agreed is 1:30 then if it’s an outcall I aim to be there at 1:30. I’ll check the location and for example if I’m visiting his hotel then I’ll get there early and I can sit in the lounge until the time. If the client is coming to me and we agree a 1:30 start time then I’m ready and waiting at 1:30. It’s really simple. The time agreed is the time to be there. If you’re unavoidably late then communicate it.

Filming for Onlyfans happens daytime too! Most of my filming is daytime. As the title of the conversation says it’s very difficult to do this work whilst doing a 9 to 5. I know a lot of guys who do sex work and none of them have a conventional 9 to 5 job. Most either do it full time or have a part time job. You have to be extremely flexible with your schedule doing this job. My week can change very quickly from being almost empty to being full; I can start the day with plans to do my laundry go to the gym and then update my website and end up having done none of those things but will have seen 2 clients. It’s quite random so you get used to changing plans. What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule. Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans.

They’ll usually use the same name on their Onlyfans as on their advertising for hire if they are for hire. The Onlyfans serves as a shop window. Also they’ll have a Twitter profile associated with their Onlyfans and that often has the links to all their socials (Instagram etc) which would include their RM or other websites if they are for hire. However, I know quite a few guys who I’ve worked with either seeing clients or making films, who started out seeing clients and then moved on to doing Onlyfans. Some of them make so much more money on Onlyfans (and travel all the time) that it’s not worth their time seeing clients any more so they cancelled their RM advert and don’t bother advertising for clients in that way. They get clients contacting them directly, are selective and charge a much higher rate.

Don’t book guys that want a picture from you. He doesn’t need one. Find someone who takes the work seriously. You’ll have a much better time.

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Oh no! This topic again…pick a side 🙂. All I will say is that some of my clients tip generously, most don’t. I have no expectations of being tipped but it’s nice when it happens. For those clients who I know tip generously I’m more inclined to say yes to their requested day / time even if it’s not convenient for me. If he’s a generous tipper I’m much more inclined to put myself out to meet him.

Ah you probably went to the MassageForHim.com website. There’s a link on there to the justforfans - circled red on this screenshot. And the justforfans site name is on the bottom of my posts.

It’s at the bottom of all my posts 😂

Day use is very easy. I book on their app. I don’t use it for meeting clients because I have my own place but I use it for filming. They’re all hotel rooms that would otherwise be empty. I can cancel up to the last minute without incurring a fee. A few have a very small booking fee but most it’s free to book. Check in is just the same as checking in at the hotel.

Well yes, he told me a few days before at the time of booking. I almost forgot too. I’d been to the gym before the session and I kind of routinely finished my session and headed to the showers. Just before I went in the cubicle I remember ‘oh yeah he wants me unshowered…’ so I turned on my heel and left the wet area to get dressed. No deodorant or anything. Then I headed to my studio for his booking. I almost showered there too because it’s a habit before a session… I prefer to be fresh but the client really liked getting his face in my pits and groin area so hey, he’s the customer, if he wants me sweaty that’s what he gets 😂.

Very strange. 🫖