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Probably not necessary since he was by the sounds of it a very willing and active participant so it’s as much his fault as yours. Also the equipment is his responsibility, if he’s going to encourage vigorous action then he should be prepared with suitably robust facilities! I’ve experienced equipment problems a few times. Once was at a sex party (I wasn’t there in any professional capacity) and the bed broke because there were too many people on it. It was some rubbish bed from Ikea. Everyone just carried on regardless, as one would expect. It appeared that some didn’t even notice… Another time I was an assistant at a sensual massage event (think 12 tables, 12 volunteers on the tables, 24 trainees and the teacher plus the assistant- me). The teacher demonstrates a not especially vigorous move on one of the volunteers and the massage table under her collapses. Fortunately no one was hurt and it certainly broke the ice. Another time I was doing a 4 hands at my studio. I have an electrically powered adjustable table. The head end can be moved up or down (as can the whole table) through a foot pedal. This time I was kneeling on the head end because the client wanted to suck me as I sucked him (69 position). The 4 hands partner was behind me also kneeling on the head end. Let’s not worry about what he was doing…I sensed that something was wrong when the client said “I’m slipping off”. (I’m sure he managed to say it with his mouth full too). I got off and saw that the head end was bent downward so that the client’s waist was well above his head. We thought the table hydraulics had broken, but fortunately it was ok. That would have been expensive…but my cost. Lesson learned not to overload the adjustable end of the table.
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I’m happy to bounce around next to someone soaking. It will be my normal rate because technically they’re not having sex, I am. Plus I’m doing all the work.
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My true friends don’t have a problem with what I do. In fact they’re supportive. It’s a nice test of friendship. It’s so normalised that it’s hardly even discussed when we talk.
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Yes this is it. There’s considerable overlap between what masseurs will include and what escorts will include. It’s a blurred line. If I, who advertises as a masseur, suddenly find a client’s cock in my mouth an alarm doesn’t go off and the escort police burst in to redefine the session and me as an escort or insist that I haven’t done sufficient effleurage on his back to be called a masseur. Everyone is free to define themselves and their service how they want to because the work isn’t regulated or codified. Clients should check with their escort or masseur if they have specific requirements. I’ve had all sorts of requests! Some are ‘yes of course’ and some are ‘that’s not my thing sorry’. I’m glad to be asked. No judgement.
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Sharing pictures/stats with providers as a courtesy
+ Jamie21 replied to Boaxxx's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’ve no problem sending my pics to clients if they ask. I’ve got pics on my website and where I advertise plus I can send them links to lots of videos of me on the web if they want to see. I figure that the better they know who they’re coming to meet the better the session will be. It’s pointless me seeing someone who isn’t comfortable and a waste of money for them. I don’t need or request pics from the client. -
tops who exclusively do something, but not another
+ Jamie21 replied to viewing ownly's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’m an ‘it depends’ person. I love the reaction of guys to being rimmed so I enjoy doing it. I’ll rim someone who I know has showered, and once I’ve had a look but I’ll not do it after something has been in their hole, unless I’m filming and it’s with someone who I know has prepared properly. Then I’m fine with it including ass to mouth when you suck a guys cock after it’s come out of someone’s (or your own) ass. -
Good question. I have a few preferred playlists when seeing clients. Usually Cigarettes After Sex or a classical playlist including Mahler and Albinoni. I’m not keen on that random ‘spa music’ that tends to get played. Music sets the mood, pace and atmosphere for the session. I find I can time things to it too. Occasionally clients comment on the playlist, or express a preference for next time. I once accidentally played Tchaikovsky’s 1812 overture which wasn’t really suitable to a relaxing massage but was ideal to get his climax to coincide with the cannons 🙂.
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Come to London. It’s part of my massage if you want that.
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That guy got me too. Ion Davidov …something about him, I can’t say what it is but he makes me melt. He could do anything to me 😂.
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#7 yes could be, or language issues (I try to allow for that, not everyone speaks the King’s English 🙂). The opposite is the ones that open with ‘fuck?’ or ‘full service?’. I’m thinking could you not say “hello do you fuck please?”😂. But “hey” or something similarly diffident does usually imply that they’re not serious. It’s a red flag for me (as are the blunt examples I gave too). I’ll engage and see if their approach changes but if it remains casual then they’re almost certain not to book or be flaky. #10 yes they could have got the urge! But that’s exactly what I see as a red flag. It’s an ‘are you available now’ thing. On the few occasions I’ve done those clients there’s been problems. Sometimes they’re drunk or high. So now I decline anything in the next 2 hours, just not worth it. Yesterday I had a client book in the morning for same day (like at 9am for a 1:30pm appointment) and it was great. I don’t count that as being an impulse and I had availability so he was booked, no problem. So these are my red flags, after seeing many clients (4 figures). Others may have different depending on their model or aptitude for hassle!
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This. I totally agree.
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I agree it’s a legitimate transaction. Some clients like the money part to be minimised and almost a separate thing so that the meeting feels less transactional. I’m fine with that. These guys tend to just hand me an envelope at the beginning or they leave it visible on the side. I never count the money while the client is in the room unless he asks me to. Once he’s left I count it and only a couple of times has it been short. I have a clients leave their shoes outside the door (they’re in a safe vestibule). This enables me to count it once they’ve left in the safe knowledge that should it be short I can open the door and find them still putting on their shoes 🙂. It’s the little things that make the difference isn’t it…
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It looks ok, but definitely not natural. He seems happy with it, which is all that matters. It certainly works nicely 🙂
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I’m not usually a bottom but the first few inches are the most difficult, after that it really doesn’t matter…then we’re just talking how long it takes. I find girth to be more of an issue than length. I have a client who has had his cock filled. It’s so fat I can’t get my hand around it. I’m really pleased he’s not asked to top me.
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I found a group called voyeurs and exhibitionists run by a guy (who was himself a voyeur). He’s organise sessions for voyeurs to watch exhibitionists perform. Im exhibitionist and I contacted him about performing at a session. He organised it (was at a hotel suite), advertised it, sold tickets and then on the day I performed a sex show with a friend of mine for the audience. We got paid but it was the excitement of being watched by about 30 people that was the best part. We both went on after that to make porn lol. Sadly the group no longer runs.
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Does a Good BFE Mean the Provider Is Just A Good Actor?
+ Jamie21 replied to FaustOust's topic in Questions About Hiring
I think for most the need for discretion comes because of the sex. They don’t want people to know they’re buying sexual services, because of the stigma that might bring, or the embarrassment. It’s a shame but that’s the case with society. And yes I also think some like the element of subterfuge that goes along with buying sexual services. It can be exciting if you’re normally very conventional. -
Yes, Price and quality aren’t related.
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Often, the more expensive something is the more people want it. A kind of exclusivity. Good for him. Sweat those assets while they last.
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It’s almost certainly a bait and switch: You respond with a request to meet…but unfortunately Reno isn’t available at the moment because he’s travelling but you can book Bill instead for a slightly lower rate…
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It’s because the cost to the provider of doing a half hour job isn’t half the price of an hour booking. There’s a minimum rate that he will have, usually for an hour. Anything less than that, even if it’s for only half an hour of time, isn’t worth the hassle. Say if my min rate is £150 for the hour, I’m not interested in £75 for half an hour. The amount of preparation time, hassle etc means anything starts at £150. If you want a quickie then book the hour, pay for the hour, and leave early.
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Here’s the red flags which I’ve learned from years of experience. All of them are an automatic ‘no’. Say ‘sorry no’ to these clients and do not be tempted to give them the benefit of the doubt. Decide your rules and stick to them regardless. If you don’t do that the work will destroy you. 1. I’m not able to afford it, would you do me a discount? Top 🚩 2. I’m a student / temporarily unemployed are there special rates for me? These might come with a ‘sob story’. Very sad. But still it’s a ‘no’. 3. Do you do half hour sessions? (Anything less than your minimum advertised session….and if you’re advertising anything less than an hour minimum why are you doing that?) 4. Any reference to ‘I’ll be a regular client’ in the discussion. Big 🚩 You’ll never see him again. 5. Any reference to them being so hot that you’ll not want to charge. Run a mile from these. Run a mile. 6. Opening with ‘I’m very inexperienced / a virgin etc’. Don’t waste your time (if this comes up after he’s booked it’s less of a 🚩 but he’s likely to cancel on the day. 7. Any contact that opens with ‘hey, what’s up, how are you’ etc will be a waste of time. You decide whether you have the spare time to engage with a window shopper. 8. Any contact that opens with a dick pic (or ass). Delete and block. Don’t waste your time. It’s probably not his dick anyway. 9. Any sex chat during the booking conversation (unless it’s a genuine question about activities included). It will be obvious if the booking process is being used for sex chat. Big 🚩 Disengage immediately. 10. Last minute or urgent bookings. “Free now? I’m desperate” Always trouble. Just answer ‘no sorry’. Even if he offers premium payment don’t accept the booking. The common theme? These clients don’t value you. If you accept them at their terms then you’re agreeing with their valuation. That can’t be the start of a good meeting.
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Sorry it happened. But there were far too many red flags, starting with the discount request. Be strict, have your rules and never break them even if it’s tempting.
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Does a Good BFE Mean the Provider Is Just A Good Actor?
+ Jamie21 replied to FaustOust's topic in Questions About Hiring
Yes I think that happens. I’ve got regular clients who I get to know (and vice versa). With regulars it’s impossible not to get to know them to some extent. I think I’ve mentioned before that one regular client became a friend who I go on holiday with and do social events (to the extent that he no longer hires me because it felt awkward…that cessation of the paid relationship ended because I instigated it). However for the majority of my regular clients there’s a professional distance maintained I think mainly because of the confidential nature of the service. They don’t want to reveal too much and nor do I. That’s the difference between a client relationship in an accountant or doctor or lawyer relationship and that with your sex worker!! -
I do the same! Very effective. Some guys ask every 12 months or so. Same things happen every time…. He messages: “Hi”…..then nothing for a few hours then “Looking for a massage” (I feel like replying “tell me when you find it”) but I play along. Next he asks “any pics?”. I send my website details. Then he asks “how much?” (It’s on my website but he obviously only looked at the pics), so I send the rates. Next it’s “when are you free?”. By now I’ve given up hope but I reply “10 am to late weekdays, daytime Saturday”. Then nothing for a day or so until he replies “any more pics?”. I reply “you asked the same questions 12m ago, and then 15m before that”. Usually he then goes quiet for a year 😂. There’s a few of these guys…each follows a well established pattern. Then there’s the guys who book every 6 months or so but cancel on the day or day before with some excuse like they’re unwell or the dog is having its leg amputated or something. These are the ‘I booked when horny but am now too scared to come’ brigade. 6m later they’re back, with no mention of the previous few cancellations, because they built up their courage again. I have to say to them “you’ve booked then cancelled 3 times now…are you sure you really want to book or can I help you overcome any anxiety?”. That usually results in them going away.
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Slightly off topic but I did a film with a guy who freaked out when I came on his chest. It surprised me…I mean we’re filming porn, the cum shot is kind of the object of the exercise! We’d agreed prior to the shoot that there would be no internal cum but I kind of assumed a load on him would be ok. He’d already cum on his abs and then I bust my load over his chest for the finale which he immediately wanted to be wiped clean. I’ve never had that with clients. I understand they might not want it inside them but I don’t see any risks with cum on the body. Usually with clients I won’t cum unless they specifically ask for it. My focus is on their climax and once that’s happened they usually lose interest in me cumming!
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