Jamie21

I agree with @soloyo215, why pay the deposit before all the details are agreed? I guess that because he advertises as offering the activities you wanted you probably assumed he’d be willing to do them, which seems reasonable. My guess is he’s willing to include those activities but selectively depending on the client. If that’s the case then you probably saved yourself a bad meet. The money sounds like it’s gone.

Very sad. He was unique.

Must admit I like it a lot when clients book me after having watched my content. If they are over the top gushing then yes there is a slight sense of “is he for real?” but I’ve never had a sense of there being a safety risk. If they say about how they like my work and are excited to book a session then actually that’s quite a big turn on, and I’m motivated to ensure they have a great time.

I have filmed with him. Lovely guy, intelligent, friendly and fun.

It’s £40 per month for me to advertise. Happy to advertise there if I get the first 6m free so I can see whether it generates business. I’m well connected in the industry so would make recommendations to others if it is a good site. @pvd901Contact me if you’re interested.

This one. It provides enough information for a response and then you can progress to more detailed discussion once you have a positive response from him. I always find the difficult enquiries are those where I get a long explanation straight off…it’s nice to know the client’s motivations but I don’t need a life story or a detailed breakdown of what kind of activities he likes and why. Or the other end of the scale…the “hi” or the “hi interested to hear more about your services” are the most difficult openers. It’s far too vague. I appreciate maybe they want to initiate the discussion somehow but I can’t really type a long answer to every enquiry like that so I say ‘have a look at my website and ask anything if you can’t find the answer there’. “Hi” usually just gets responded to with “hi”. What else can I say? So I think @APPLE1has got it nicely phrased and succinct. Once you have a decent reply to that opening then you can ask about rates and any questions that his advertising didn’t answer or was vague about. You’re right that a good provider should lead the conversation but only to the extent that you help him by being clear and succinct. He won’t be bothered to tease it out of you.

I don’t do out calls if it’s too far away or just difficult to get to or is in a dodgy area. Also, I need to take the table so usually I can’t use public transport unless the client doesn’t want the table (so we use the bed). Each person operates differently so i understand why some might prefer to have their Uber paid for by the client. I think it’s ike the difference between a low cost airline where everything is broken down into a menu of options, all individually priced ….or a full service airline where everything is included in the headline price. The client decides which airline gets their business.

As will they no doubt. Everyone has ways of sifting out the people they don’t want to deal with. It saves a lot of trouble.

And of course you don’t have to buy the provider who asks for an Uber. Isn’t that wonderful 🙂

I think sometimes it’s to indicate your reliability. More likely you’re genuine if you arrange and pay for the Uber. I’ve done out calls and when I arrive at the client’s location and then they go silent on me. Waste of time and money. So I can understand why some guys might ask for an Uber… These days I have other ways to identify and weed out time wasters so I prefer to arrange and pay for my own travel. I think the main reason why some guys ask for an Uber is simply because they can…

Interesting. Almost all ATM’s here (UK) are free to use to any bank customer. I bank with X Bank but I can withdraw cash, for free, from A, B, C bank etc. It’s an open network. No one uses cheques any more, I last wrote a personal cheque 10 years ago. Everything is electronic. I can do all my banking on my phone or laptop. Most of my clients pay by card, they just tap their card on my card reader, it shows on their bank statement as “gay naked massage”…. 🤪. No sorry just teasing!! it shows as JamesW. Very discreet, could be anything. A few clients pay cash but it’s unusual. I think the disappearance of cash is unfortunate because anonymity is important in an open society.

Of course in the UK (and most of Europe) this isn’t applicable because we have a sensible attitude towards consenting commercial behaviour between adults in private… so feel free to ask for a happy ending and more. Live life, have fun.

Ha ha yes that’s familiar. I usually say ‘next time’ and then make a note so if he books again I should be ready (and should reflect it in the price). It’s not just bottoming though, I find clients sometimes want to finger me and I prefer to know beforehand if they want to do that so I can prepare. Clients can be shy about asking these type of questions but really, it’s not necessary to be coy. I’ve heard everything.

Yes exactly. It may seem polite to start like that but it’s really irksome when you get lots of those type of “hey how are you” chats. What I like is “hello I’d like to book an hour (or whatever) at x time on y date in call”. It’s simple, has all the info I need to reply and it shows they’re serious because they’ve done some research (as in they know my location, service, rates etc all of which can be easily found with a couple of clicks). Once I’ve sent back details then any further questions can be responded to. Clients that ask lots of questions, and especially those that open with “what’s your rate?” usually means they’re not that invested in meeting.

Well yes that’s true. It’s a great job. I love it.

At sex parties I’ve been in large groups where guys tend to drop in and out of the action. There might be a dozen or so in the bedroom in 2 or 3 groups and others will join or leave depending on what’s going on and the vibe over the party duration. People tend to spend time in a room where food and drink is where they chat, a bit of action goes on around the fringes but then in the bedroom(s) people have sex. You flit between the two or more locations as you wish. I think the largest group I was in is about 6 or 7 once it gets that size it tends to split into smaller groups. The largest party was around 100 guys but of course not everyone had sex. Some people stand around watching, chatting, drinking etc. And then some are ass up on the bed accept all comers lol.

Oh yes the smell isn’t good! That’s probably worse thing lol.

Not grating no. I don’t think that’s how I’ve felt when it’s happened. I felt awkward because sometimes you have to tell him it’s dirty and that’s kind of difficult. I remember one time I pulled out and it was a bit dirty so I wiped his bum as discreetly as I could but he said ‘oh is it ok?’ and I had to say ‘no it’s a little bit messy’ and he then wanted to shower and douche some more. That usually doesn’t work because you need to douche and then let things settle down before trying anything again. Other times I’ve felt sorry for the guy, because he’s usually embarrassed by it. The session often ends at that point because he doesn’t want to continue but I don’t mind if he wants to clean up and carry on doing things other than penetration.

Clean up, tell him it’s all ok and carry on in whatever way he wishes. In my experience if it happens it’s the bottom who feels bad and then prefers to play in other ways (if atall) thereafter. It’s something that happens sometimes and you shouldn’t make a big deal of it. Even if he’s experienced at douching things can go wrong.

I have a particular sideline as an Italian plumber and I frequent video arcades touting for clients who have a fetish for having their plumbing sorted out. Sometimes my step brother (😏) Luigi joins me.

Sometimes people don’t want their face and dick in the same pic. Could be that.

Yes but I don’t bottom for ages. I‘m just not that into long bottom sessions. I’m always hoping he cums after a shortish time!

He decides his rate, ask him. Then you decide whether or not you want to pay it. Don’t negotiate.

What!!! Not mine 😢. That twink is hot though 😉

You probably needed to be a little more clear with him about your expectations. Whilst I’d always recommend not being too choreographed about things I’d say that he’s not a mind reader so you need to give some hints. For the longer sessions I do I like to know what he’s looking for, is it chat? Is it cuddling, is it doing something sexually that he wants to try? Is it a bit of all of them? In my experience clients are often looking for things beyond the obvious, so if they don’t make their needs clear (most won’t) then you either need to ask them questions to discover it, or experiment. He should have been a bit more inquiring of you perhaps given that he knew you were inexperienced at hiring.