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11 hours ago, Thelatin said:

I’ve experienced this as well.  I think it has something to do with the 37 different vitamins, potions, protein shakes etc.  they down in a day.  

Yeah I also wonder if a lot these hot guys don't really have to "try" in real life so they don't feel like they have to try in a hiring situation. Also I guess just because you're good looking doesn't mean you're actually that sexual of a person. A good escort should be both hot and horny. I think a lot of these guys are only the former.

9 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

 

Plenty of newcomers and some of them don't like it or they are just trying and can't wait to get their onlyfans running and only use RM to promote their page. 

I think you've been unlucky or as posted by others you've trying new guys who are not cutoff for the business. 

The same happened to @Gar1eth he constantly hired guys who weren't ready to bottom. I would say you keep douche at home and insist on the matter if you truly want versatility.

Providers have problems getting and keeping it hard? Viagra? Do you accurately describe yourself to them so they know if they need to take Viagra or not before meeting you? 

You'll find new regulars if that's what you're looking for, 

I always say exactly what I am looking for. I seek out other guys who say they are vers on ads because I really do like to flip and even say that's what I am looking for. I really do want a good regular. If I find one, I am a very consistent, generous and chill client. I had a great guy for about six months. We went on trips to the mountains together, watched plays, did multiple overnights. Unfortunately he moved and is no longer in the business. I do get that I was somewhat lucky with some previous regulars, but I'd settle for just a guy who can actually have consistent good sex.

I'm only 37 and I think I'm decent looking. I actually can/do have sex from the apps and through meeting guys at bars, etc. So when I hire, I really do want a great experience that I can't get from the apps. But lately it's just been very meh.

Thanks for the encouragement though. I guess I'll just keep trying.

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17 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

It's interesting you mention this.  After seeing the recent thread about Mintboy, I had a look at the selection for the Detroit area.  Yuck!!!  A large number of very average to unattractive guys I wouldn't be interested in even if they were for free.  It was shocking to see how many unappealing guys are putting themselves out there as escorts.

In my opinion, the problem isn't physical attractiveness. A lot of guys that I have hired are very sexy men. But they just don't really perform well. At this point, I'd take a 7 or 8 that can actually give me a good experience over a 9 or 10 that can't get hard and doesn't want to do anything. 

1 hour ago, Rod Hagen said:

WTF?! 😞

Yeah. I was like, I'm not sure if you're in the right business if you don't like to get sweaty. Weirdly he's a really ripped dude so clearly he must get sweaty at the gym but I guess not when having sex. 🤷‍♂️

2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

 Or we all are a community, or we all are not. You cannot trace a line, leave out the homophobes and those who look down on sex workers, and then say we are a community.

So the other definition of community is "A group of people living in the same place."

Thinking of my own community, I know my neighbor loves Jordan Peterson and is sort of a douchey bro guy. He's also nice and has helped me out when I've needed him and I've done the same for him.  I still called him out on Peterson, saying that as a gay man, I cannot accept Peterson's rampant homophobia and transphobia. He acknowledged though I am sure he still likes Peterson. 

My neighbor is still part of my community despite my disagreement with his views. Going on NextDoor, I'd say quite a few of my neighbors have some views and opinions I disagree with. They're still a part of my community. I can try to debate and educate my neighbor, but they're still part of my physical community. 

A community is never going to be perfectly aligned

1 hour ago, KeepItReal said:

I am curious- what markets do you usually hire in and do you target a specific demographic? 

I live in Denver, so definitely here in this area. Interestingly, I have hired a wide variety of ages. I did think initially it was maybe because they were younger guys, but the two most recent have been in their 30s and its been the same. They are mostly local guys though one a few months ago was a visitor from Brazil via Miami, so it's happened even with the international ones. The latter was actually a bit better than average. He at least was down to cuddle and hang after and we had some good conversation. Even that is surprisingly hard to find. 

Interesting question. I would agree with Jose generally that I don't think an internet forum is a community per se. Definitely not like a random Reddit. 

But since many of us have met IRL and have a shared experience among these men we hire, I think that is a bit different. 

Let's go to Merriam-Webster: "A feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals."

I think one thing the M4M transition taught us is that we really do value this space. I certainly feel a sense of fellowship with many of you on here and I think certainly we have a common interest and goal to have a successful forum where we can openly talk about this shared hobby. That sounds like a community to me. Though I agree that it probably isn't for all of us on here. I almost think the opposite of Jose. It's more of a community for us experienced posters and less so for someone just on here maybe for a quick question and that's it.

6 hours ago, Luv2play said:

This sounds very frustrating for you. My experience differs and I have not experienced any decline in quality of escorts that I have been with either during the pandemic or post pandemic.

I hire at generally twice a month in the Montreal and Toronto market. Some come to me and some I go to. Many dates are multi hours or overnights.

I always make it clear behorehand what I am looking for and get their agreement in writing on RM or text or WhatsApp that they can perform.

Hemce usually I have a fabulous time. But it does take effort and does cost money. This ain't a cheap hobby.

Thanks for the encouragement. I have got way back. I used to be more like 1-2 times a month but I've only seen like 4 guys since January. All of them were kinda disappointing in some way. Just a lot of new guys in my market. I'm planning a trip soon so hopefully I'll get a good experience traveling. Maybe Denver just isn't bringing quality guys anymore. It's unfortunate because truly I had some great regulars (all who left the biz). 
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Is it just me or has the quality of the escort experience declined recently? Maybe because I had such good luck with regulars previously, but it just seems like the guys I'm hiring recently are just not able to provide a great experience.

I feel like I am pretty laid back and tell them exactly what I am looking for in the texts. I am versatile and enjoy oral, body contact, jacking and cuddling. Massage skills a plus but not required. But it seems like every guy I meet has a hard time getting/staying hard and/or is not physically ready to bottom. I've not had this problem with escorts like even last year. Really this is within the last six months or so and is multiple guys. I'm reasonably attractive and always am down to give oral, put on porn and take breaks if needed to keep the action going. But increasingly it's like guys want to get hard, fuck for five minutes and if you want any longer that's too bad. A lot of them don't even seem to like to cuddle and hang after. One guy told me he doesn't like to get sweaty. 

Sorry if this is too complaining, but I am just curious if anyone else is feeling like hiring is more and more like paying $300 for a bad Grindr hookup.

I was hoping he'd be more like:   But he really isn't at all.

How unfortunate that this particular escort was rude to you and tried to overcharge you. 

You're someone that has literally spent tens of thousands on escorts and by him being rude, he cut himself off from someone forum members know is a quite generous client in the long-term. 

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I'm pretty sure Rent.Men has a default "location" in every city. In Denver it's in Civic Center Park downtown where they have all the festivals and parades. The provider has to actually set their location.

I've had regulars give me a bit of a deal on longer sessions. I had one for a while where we'd still do 300 per hour but we'd do like $500 for an extended session. These often ended up being like 3-6 hours in length mostly because we enjoyed each other's company and often would watch a play since we were both into theater.

So really like 2-3 hours of bedroom time and another 2-3 hours of watching a play or having dinner or something else. It was a great deal for both of us I think since I enjoyed his company so much and I think at $500 it was worth it for him to just not stress about hustling for another client and just have a fun night doing something he enjoyed anyway. I always ended up giving him $50 as a tip too since I always had a great time with him. 

Such a great, nail-bitingly close NBA finals game. But so great to see the Denver Nuggets win their first ever NBA championship and they've been around since 1976. I saw the game at my local gay bar, and the crowd energy was so much fun and intense. Can't wait to celebrate at the parade on Thursday. 

I don't mind two-hour sessions but I prefer if it's with a provider I've met or someone who does a quality massage as a part of it. I recently did a session with a guy who only does two-hours and it was kind of mediocre. He just didn't have the stamina or massage skills to do a good two-hour session in my opinion.

I did not have a great experience with him. He's Denver-based and all I will say is definitely take the PNP on his profile seriously (whether that matters to you).

11 hours ago, jojolaca said:

Sadly Clayton doesn’t do any form of social media.  I actually chatted with a performer who worked with him and he said Clayton has no interest living the porn lifestyle. He’s from the Indianapolis area.  Carnal did a lot of scenes with him last summer and they are releasing them sporadically to keep interest.  I was told he’s super sweet and majorly into the daddy type.  He may have had a “friendship “ with the Master Kamp performer.  Here’s a photo of them at a pride event.  

Thanks for the information. Yeah, based on the total lack of social media from Clayton, I was expecting that we was just not into this world at all. Probably a situation of him meeting someone in the industry and getting some short-term money. Most of the other guys on Carnal do have social media/OnlyFans, etc so it's telling that he does not.  Oh well, maybe things will change but I think for now we just have a few scenes. 

What's interesting to me is that nobody seems to have met with this provider on here and he has no reviews on RM either. 🤷‍♂️

Back when I was a teacher I hired a guy who was also a teacher in the same district. He used somewhat discreet pictures on RM that didn't show his full face. So I didn't know I knew him until he showed up. But actually we had definitely met and had done professional development and some other events together. He didn't say anything and I wasn't sure he recognized me, so I still did our session.

After the first time though I did tell him that I was also a teacher and that I knew who he was and that we even had some mutual teacher friends. I felt it was important to be honest and let him make the choice about whether he wanted to meet again. We actually did a couple times and we had a good time. But I did see him again in a professional setting after we met and just had to basically ignore him so it was kinda awkward. Fortunately, neither of us are in education any longer so it's unlikely we'd meet up in any kind of professional capacity again. 

I've seen escorts show up on social media quite a lot. Actually on Instagram a lot especially because my business works with LGBTQ venues and a lot of escorts in Denver are bartenders and/or dancers at LGBTQ venues around town. I also have certainly seen these guys IRL fairly often as well. But you just have to respect their privacy just as they respect yours. 

8 minutes ago, MrMattBig said:

 I'm back and hoping to reconnect with old acquaintances and make new friends as well!  

You really are one of the best in the business Matt and I'm glad that you took the time you needed to do some self-care. Really happy that you are back though and hoping to reconnect soon. 

To me the "per hour" thing is actually a bit passe at this point. I'm increasingly interested only in longer sessions including overnights. I would rather save up and do one longer session at like $1200 once every three months or so then do 4 one-hour sessions at $300 in that same time period. 

To me it's about priorities, and I'd rather prioritize an amazing longer experience with a great guy than a subpar 1 hour experience that feels rushed.