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You’re so right @MichiganMan Apart from the usual dinner and drinks etc, the highest fee I ever paid was $1200 and that was for an overnight in 2007 with a very beautiful LA muscleboy, 22 with 4% body fat. He was a good kisser, an OK cocksucker but initially a reluctant bottom...but when loosened up, he was wild in bed. The least I paid for an overnight was $500 and that was to an Italian muscle-bottom, 32 with a ripped and totally symmetrical physique. He was ‘sex on legs’ as they say: a dedicated cocksucker and a greedy bottom; he loved to please a man and he was very happy to perform for me when I arranged groups. Perhaps needless to add but I saw him frequently for 5 years and he never asked for more than his fee.

Yes @JoshLondon I feel you’re right. It was a “golden age” with many handsome men aged 21-32 from lots of different countries working in London. I have intimate memories of many - 4 gentle and masculine Slovak bottoms, - 4 sexually versatile and athletic Italian young men, - 2 blond English muscleboy-bottoms, - 4 Brazilian fitness models/muscleboys - 3 fit muscled Spanish guys - 2 eager Greek cocksuckers to completion - 2 visiting Americans who were enthusiastic rimmers - 3 Australians who were wild in bed And it seems to me that in those years it was easy to find eager young men with handsome faces and defined, muscled physiques who were happy to please with very few restrictions.

Who wouldn’t be? ;-) The pics show a very handsome, fit-bodied man

Thanks for responding @JoshLondon. I hadn’t seen Marco in years but he seemed to have kept his looks. I played better with Thomas Olivier - any idea what happened to him?

Very accurate observation @manTOman Much as I understand your frustrations and frequent complaints about your business @Mocha, this seems to suggest a lack of organisation on your part. I’m surprised the Client is still waiting...

He’s a lovely guy...even better-looking in the flesh. I played with him a few years back. Thanks @marylander1940 for bringing back good memories.

You have good taste @Quincy_7 I agree with @liubit on Aidan/BelAmi tho Norieta ain’t bad

Interesting thread @Monarchy79 I’m a dominant selfish top so a massage session where I’m fully served is immensely satisfying. I can see that such massages would indeed spoil me for encounters with others, if I didn’t have a nice steady boyfriend who really enjoys pleasing me. Also I share your experience of the dating pool. I’m not surprised that you’ve found many encounters left you “disappointed And irritated.“ When I was single, I wasted a lot of time and energy dating various men - quite a few were time-wasters, flaky, self-absorbed or simply not good in bed. And I appreciate your observation that a man can be “overly submissive and pleasing”. 10 years ago, I had a first date I’ve never forgotten with a handsome young architect who had a good body. After a drink at home, and before we went to dinner, he asked to suck me off to completion: I was clothed and standing over him; he was at my feet, naked with my cum streaking his face; he said he’d clean himself up but added that after dinner he “wanted to be used fully” and I could do whatever I wanted to him - it was a total turn-off; he ceased to be alluring to me.

It’s slightly off-topic but to answer your point @tassojunior: I had used my AmEx to buy the guy a fully refundable ticket and the airline (Qantas) would only refund him; prior to this, I’ve had other airlines in the US and Europe refund me (when others cannot travel) as I had purchased the ticket.

It’s not clear to me @InterestingGuy how long this contemplated hire is for. But if it’s at least an overnight - with flights and a hotel room, you’re going to spend quite a lot of money - I have 3 thoughts for you. 1. Why not visit him in his city? Assuming he’s located in an interesting city, if he should be flaky, you would still have an enjoyable time exploring a new place. 2. Why not get him more invested in the trip? If this should be a weekend hire, ask him what he’d like to do (outside the bedroom) or if there’s a place he’d like to see; if an overnight, ask him what sort of food he’d prefer for dinner. 3. I agree with others about the flights - use points if you can or buy a fully flexible ticket. I was burned once by a previously reliable escort and the airline would only refund him, the named passenger - something I’d not encountered before or since.

Why wait? Life is short...and regular sex is good for your health ;-)

I know I’m picky but he’d have to pay me to top him.

That’s a very good observation @maninsoma. I’ve yet to hear of a guy advertising using ‘borrowed’ pics that show a chubby body or a homely face.

I’d be happy to share him @classic....but I never want ‘sloppy seconds’.

IIRC she only appears in the second part of the play. Her part is not large but, of course, her presence on the stage lends a certain iconic quality to the production.

Essentially, Yes. Young men may be naive or a little unsure about how it will work but IME they have a keen appreciation of the mutual benefits of dating an older man. IMHO it’s incumbent on the older main to be clear and specific about what he is ‘seeking’ and offering in return. And as others have said, it’s best to use another medium such as WhatsApp or an actual meeting over a drink to discuss how the arrangement will work.

I think that @Methodic98 had some good and helpful replies earlier. I understand that profiles with pics always get more interest, but I feel using false pics is simple deception. I can accept that a person may want to protect his privacy, so the answer is not to show his face or any distinctive mark etc. My only experience of this was several years ago when I made an online date with a 21year old. I suspected the pics were not of him as they showed a guy in superb physical condition. But I was interested so I asked if the pics were of him; he said No but that he closely resembled them. He was right...if he were to work out in a gym for a few years, convert some weight from fat to muscle and gain a couple of inches in height.

I suspect it’s true of many fitness model/trainer/actor wannabe-s. They often lack the drive and determination to achieve their goals. Their desire for fame and their taste for expensive living combine to make them seek what they feel will be “fast, easy money”.

He is indeed lovely. Just my type.

I can’t help with info @Andy2 but I congratulate you on your good taste. Shawn looks especially attractive to me but I guess you will have to ask him directly whether he will meet your specific needs. Please report back if you do have a date.

He would make a fine ‘filling’ for this trio, and I’d happily fuck him. No @Trebor....well, only after I’ve had his legs resting on my shoulders while I fuck him well

You’re so thoughtful @joethomas. The young man does need help. As young men can be disorganised, I’ll volunteer to choose his jockstraps and underwear for him.

Going back to the OP’s questions....Years ago, I used to film or take pics of my encounters/dates, purely for my private use. I always asked first and most said Yes, some said No. I was simply direct and used to lead in with taking some pics. I’d say something like you’re so hot/so attractive/have such a great upper body: may I take some photos? If the guy was relaxed about it, I’d ask if I could film us in bed together. Some guys really got into being filmed and asked me for a copy. FWIW I think this was more common some years back. I feel a lot of young men in their 20s are more aware of images/film being misused or ending up in others’ hands. It’s very much an individual decision so you just have to ask the guy.

I think the logo is ‘Newcastle United’ and there are certainly very similar trains in the London area.

Yes. It’s actually rather simple: I used to send a polite and friendly message, prefaced with some compliment on his photo or profile. The summary was I enjoy a fit young man’s company and I’m a fit older top - so I’m happy to pay for dinner and I like to take good care of my “boy” - if he’s interested in meeting me. If he responded well, I followed up quickly and always got him to say what he was looking for. If he said Yes straightaway, I switched to phone texts or WhatsApp to arrange the date. I was careful not to send explicit messages on the app. Some guys ignored my messages; some said No; and some said I’m interested, tell me more. I had a good success-ratio.