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I don’t know just how bashful you are @bashful Did you ask him where the batteries were, as you needed new ones for your vibrator? Or where the lube and condoms were kept? ;-) Sometimes young men are just curious, sometimes they welcome a break from routine and nice small talk with an older man, and sometimes they are horny. All you have to do is smile, talk and follow up.

He certainly sounds and looks good. Without a face pic or a name, however, I can’t identify him. I hope @asian sensatin that someone else can help you with your enquiry.

I hope it goes well for you. Please report back on your experience.

Succinct advice @massagelover ! I do not think it’s unusual nor unreasonable for any masseur to reserve the right not to offer services @Typical. Slightly tongue-in-cheek, I wonder if perhaps you just prefer to pay much more $ to masseurs who are not so open and honest

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I have a hot Brazilian friend, whose torso is very similar to the avatar used by @ukchii212 , and his face is handsome. He’s also rather well endowed but unfortunately has Peyronie’s disease (penile curvature) so he used to go to Lagoa to top another hot guy. After a while he noticed that the hot guys there never got hard while being fucked by him. He reached 2 conclusions: that the working guys were straight mainly; and that being a hot client was immaterial. So @ukchii212 which “A-list” working guys have you dated?

Maybe I am grumpy today, but sometimes I wonder how guys here can be so nervous or penny-pinching or dreaming of perfection. Why @hk81 are you hesitating? The man has 2 locations in Manhattan and only charges $80 for an incall. Even if the massage is only adequate, he’s cheap. I’ve spent more in Manhattan on an ordinary lunch.

Smart and tactful @sync

One of that very group told me all the guys were straight. He defined them as such because no-one enjoyed the taste of the cum they ‘had’ to swallow.

Both are rather attractive. Hasn’t the guy on the left worked on Sean Cody? Andrea is very attractive but looks better naked. Astoundingly he’s only 21!

I enjoy getting massage on a regular basis but I have no expectations of anything more than a good massage. One time I had a massage from a short guy 30s and heavily muscled. I wasn’t at all into him but while on my front he started tapping his hard cock against my shoulder. I just stayed where I was.

I’ve enjoyed this thread about meeting attractive straight-seeming men who may be closeted/bi/unsure of sexuality. I’ve never found it a problem to talk to such men - not because I’m so attractive, but I am confident - and I’ve found that you don’t need a special ‘pick up line’. All it takes is to look directly into the guy’s eyes and say something nice and complimentary. If the guy is interested, he will respond readily. The last time I wanted to pick up such a guy was 12 years ago when I was having an apartment modernized and decorated. The builder and his men were late 30s/early 40s, pleasant and efficient, but the builder’s younger brother 28 happened to be a blond hunk. The builder told me how much his younger brother liked my decorating ideas and how stylish the apartment would be. As they lived in the suburbs, they all stayed there Monday-Friday and I used to stop by to check on progress. On one visit I announced I’d stop by the next Saturday morning. When I did, the young hunk was there on his own, doing some painting. He said he’d stayed over Friday night to do some shopping, and I said that was fine but I’d have invited him to dinner if I’d known. He then showed me some cologne he’d just bought. He insisted I try it so I unbuttoned my shirt to spray a little on each pec. He leaned in and said it smelled good on me...that was all it took, and Yes I did take him out on Saturday night

I agree @haring222 as I dislike the social phenomenon of ghosting. My guess is that guys are nervous about being direct/honest and seek to avoid confrontation by being silent. I’m not sure I’d term it ‘rude’, however, as it was a commercial arrangement but I certainly consider it unprofessional. I commend your restraint for not ‘naming and shaming’ the individual in question. All you can do is seek another provider.

I so agree @rogerG When I was single, I enjoyed fancy parties as I used to chat to any young handsome waiter who ‘caught my eye’. It was a surprisingly easy way to find a date for later ;-)

But the smarter guys soon learn that they have to get physical and do more than strip if they want to get stuff for free

We don’t know how old @peter is - if he’s young, this may be very interesting info for him. A few years back, when I was in my 50s, I had the same ‘admission’ made to me by a very hot blond muscleboy (a dedicated bottom with a submissive streak). I’d enjoyed several dates with him before I suggested playing overnight. He asked what I had in mind and I outlined my usual routine, also stating there’d be 7 hours sleep and he could decide where we had dinner. He was unsure what to charge me, so we left that part vague. On the day, he arrived around 5pm and left before 9am. We had great fun together and I ended up topping him 3x and he also sucked me off to completion 2x. In the morning, he told me it’d been very enjoyable as he liked how I fucked him and he’d had 7 hours sleep...so he charged me 3x his (quite high) hourly rate. He confided that I was only the 2nd guy to play with him overnight. His first overnight had been 2 weeks earlier with a guy of 30 who topped him 6x in the night and he (the bottom) was unable to sleep and felt very fully “used” by the morning. So he charged the guy 5x his hourly rate.

Here’s a link http://www.towleroad.com/2019/06/jay-dymel/

You have a lot of good advice above, especially from @liubit I did a lot of overnight dates and as it happens, I had a very similar routine to that outlined by @liubit and @spider My strong advice would be that you must decide what you need/want. If you want a BFE with lots of kissing and cuddling, say so; if you like to bottom, prepare well and tell the guy; and if you only top, tell the guy that so he can prepare. FWIW I disagree with the advice from @azdr0710. I would NOT ask what he wants to do (tho I always asked about his diet before booking dinner) and I certainly would NOT allow time for his “personal chores” - for goodness sake, it’s only 10-12 hours and you’re paying for him to focus on you and your needs, tho you should allow him to shower by himself after you’ve had fun ;-)

I agree completely. For a while, I rented a lovely but small 1bed apartment (high floor, 2 exposures) in a very fancy co-op building on 76th Street. I enjoyed it so much that when a 2bed apartment came up for sale, I was keen to buy but I lost interest on finding that the monthly costs were $20k!

Matt does indeed have “blowjob lips”

And I agree with you @maninsoma Unfortunately I can see those exact arguments being made by the heavyweight client who doesn’t want to pay for the bed he broke

I agree with what you say @Dmitri tho I’ve known some heavily overweight guys to be irrational about the impact of their weight. I wonder how in practice a masseur would be able to gain reimbursement from the client.

Thanks @marylander1940 This brought back happy memories. It’s a rather old photo of a charming young Brazilian wannabe-model/actor. I wonder what happened to him.

Oddly enough @edjames my boyfriend and I were discussing this play over dinner last night. We saw it at the Young Vic in London....twice, because we enjoyed it so much. Each time, we saw the 2 parts on separate evenings a couple of weeks apart. FWIW we both found Part 1 to be more compelling than Part 2. I strongly recommend you see the play.

All over his sharply-etched abs, or ‘cum-gutters’ as I call them, while I’m pounding his hole