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Generally posters get more comments and info when they provide links to the man they’re asking about. (And I don’t have time to look this guy up and do that for you)

Yes, a high thread count matters hugely. And I agree about Egyptian cotton. it is important to me that we have good bedlinen and change it often. When it’s been hot here at night in the Summer, we’ve taken to sleeping on Irish linen sheets. Of course, it does mean that the laundry charges are high but I feel it’s a price worth paying.

I had to look him up. I feel he expressed a strange sentiment for this day and age, but maybe that’s because I know many young people who are very open about their sexuality. https://www.out.com/celebs/2019/6/21/brandon-flynn-sort-addresses-his-relationship-rumors

I feel you’ve had several helpful comments here @Dtxstudfinder but I wouldn’t beat yourself up or over-analyse it. I can relate to your situation. I too am a top only and I too like young attractive jocks. FWIW I had a very long-term relationship end 20 years ago and it was difficult to get back into the ‘dating game’ after so many years together. What helped me was crafting a good profile on online sites and joining a gym for regular workouts with personal trainers. I basically went on a lot of dates with men who seemed nice, and I got myself very fit and in good physical shape for a man in his mid40s. Getting very fit gave me more physical confidence. Going on a lot of dates showed me what was out there. I had a decent social life and I certainly kissed a lot of frogs. I also met and dated a few very attractive escorts and that helped me renew my libido; they also taught me some new moves in bed. (I will add here that I do have an old friend who also lost his partner about the same time as me. He has shut himself off from life, never dates and only goes on vacation if I invite him. I find that very sad and I don’t want you to go the same way). I don’t regret what I did. And perhaps it prepared me to respond well when my ‘ideal man’ came into my life more than 5 years ago. I don’t want you to lose heart, but I do want you to put yourself out there and rediscover joy in life.

I’ve no knowledge of him @Reisr30 but he’s certainly very big and built if he is only 22. My guess is that steroids are involved. I mean no disrespect to your choice, and I don’t know what you intend to do together. My suggestion is simply that you check with him on his current state - is he bulking or is he really ripped?

Depending on the amount of ‘entertainment’ you’ll be arranging for that “1 full day”, I’d suggest a large hotel in Midtown where you might book direct. That way, you may be able to arrange in advance for a late checkout and possibly an early check in. (That just reflects my preference for some good cardio before dinner, and for more action in the morning). FWIW I’d suggest you locate the Housekeeper as soon as you get in and tip her well for all the extra towels etc you will probably need. Tho I haven’t stayed in either, the Hilton on 6th Ave/53rd St and the Sheraton on 7th Ave/52nd St seem to be busy, bustling hotels where your guests coming-and-going would be unremarkable.

When do you plan to marry @Unicorn ? You obviously have romantic impulses to a great degree but rather than swap details of houses you “might get” with him, why not swap and discuss details of the pre-nuptial/co-habitation agreement your lawyer should be drafting right now?

I hope it goes well for you @Unicorn My bet is that once the family discover you are financially well-placed, they will want to come and stay on shopping trips, and the requests for gifts and money will soon follow. Be smart and keep a firm hold on your wallet. FWIW I know of a young gay Argentine who married a much older American and of a young gay Peruvian who married an older New Yorker. Both South American families expressed their disgust...but within a few months, both had overcome their horror sufficiently to ask the Americans for money for family parties, vacations etc.

Yum! He’d make a great ‘personal shopper’ for underwear.

To answer your questions: Not recently, tho I spent more than 1 year in Buenos Aires. Be aware that some guys use old photos and some guys change their working name often - best to meet for coffee or a drink in a public place first. You phone the guy and ask him. It helps to speak Spanish as smart guys charge visitors more or ask to be paid in USD. There are lots of ‘telos’ (local slang for hotels that rent rooms by the hour) alongside Recoleta Cemetery. Both gay and str8 couples use telos. And assuming you do speak and read Spanish, there is a local website (such as this) which discusses male and female escorts. Just Google for the name; it’s something like foro-escorts.com.ar

I wouldn’t worry, @edjames. In truth, Vanessa Redgrave contributes little to the play. Of course as a person, she had had a long career in the theatre but I felt her role in this wonderful play was more of a “walk-on role”.

I think this guy is attractive and rather sexy-looking, except for the tattoo on the side of his torso which looks poorly executed.

Interesting thread. I didn’t realise this guy had an ad and was open about escorting. I have never hired anyone for a cam-show but I knew he did do that. The photos are realistic and I checked that he is briefly in Toronto. I met him some years ago when he was just starting out as a body builder. I’m a top only and back then, he was obliging and enthusiastic; decent oral skills and happy to bottom for me. I cannot speak to how he is currently. I put him in that category of guys who may not define as gay but prize their bodies and spend lots of time and effort developing their physique. Without much income to support their lifestyle, they soon realise that only older gay men will appreciate them.

@SirBIllybob That brought back lots of happy memories of 2000-2002. London at that time saw lots of immigrants arrive from different countries: Brazilian muscleboys, Slovak bottoms, wild Aussies, eager-to-please Spaniards etc. I did my best to make the handsome young men feel at home in London. I happened to meet in a Soho coffee-shop a handsome 21year old Brazilian with a long athletic torso. His working name was Enzo and he went to work at VG the day after arriving in London. Enzo had a Brazilian friend and flat-mate, 21-22years old - working name Fred - who wasn’t as handsome but had a terrific upper body with huge pecs. Enzo was rather charming while Fred was obsessed with physical perfection and having cosmetic procedures to remedy supposed ‘defects’. Both men were smart and they realised after only a week at VG that they could make much more money by advertising/finding clients direct. I had a date with each of them one week. Both Enzo and Fred were versatile in bed and happy to bottom for me. I also arranged evening dates with them separately and put them with other new guys; that made for entertaining 3ways and a couple of memorable 4gies. My dates with Enzo and Fred together were fun, but they were much more uninhibited when I played with them separately. I used to keep a straight face when each of them asked me not to tell the other what they did for me in bed. Fred referred to Enzo as his boyfriend, while Enzo earnestly assured me they were not a couple and that he was falling for me and wanted to be my “boyfriend”. I knew that Enzo liked my big, fat cock but that he truly liked my big, fat wallet - Enzo amply demonstrated the truth of that old adage: Love sucks, but true love swallows. I never visited VG but I’m so glad it exists and hope it continues to thrive.

Well written @jazboy. When I was a modelizer (some years ago), I often found that the offer of $1000 gained me access to many men who didn’t “normally escort”. I may have been in full lust but I wasn’t an idiot. Once the date was arranged, I was charming but insistent that the date was for dinner and overnight. Only once was I ‘held to ransom’ by a very fit LA model who demanded $1500 (despite having earlier agreed to $1000) and had various restrictions. I gave in when he agreed to being photographed as well as giving me ‘unrestricted access’ 3x that night.

@CaptainPecs It’s definitely not “a massage parlour” or a place you’d go if you want a therapeutic massage. VG has been running for many years; it operates discreetly because it’s in a residential area. It seems always to have kept within the confines of the law in the UK. Consensual activities between 2 adults in private are lawful.

I thought @SirBIllybob was referring to the OP planning to hire a car in Portugal. Unless the OP also plans to keep the same car in Spain and then drive it back to Lisbon....

My guess @Quincy_7 is that English escorts may be more attuned to attracting and building a regular clientele. Foreign and visiting escorts may try to charge as much as possible because they only plan on working for a limited time. Definitely not so @keroscenefire. In fact, refugees and newly arrived economic migrants qualify for more generous social benefits than established, tax-paying citizens and residents. And the UK provides greater benefits than does Germany. In part, this generosity has caused anti-migrant sentiment..

@GregM, I think @Spursy is spot-on with his advice. I would not drive a car in either city. Think of Lisbon as a version of San Francisco in Europe. Uber is rather cheap in Portugal. In Spain, whether Uber will be available when you visit is debatable; there have been legal challenges and protests by taxi-drivers so the service in Barcelona was withdrawn. Nonetheless, using easy and cheap public transport from Madrid, you can get to many places with a combination of good train services and rapid buses.

Wow @Skip, necrophilia?! That’s a first for this forum, I think

There’s a lot of recent info in this thread already. As has been noted, the guys change very often. From someone I know who worked there, the one thing you will not get is “a rubdown with some oils” - it’s consensual activity between two adults.

Not unless he does a lot of catalogue work @tassojunior. Top male models earn very little; the real money spinner is being the face and body for a fragrance. But I guess his work as a personal trainer must bring him into contact with a lot of older male and female clients who will appreciate him.

Congratulations. I’m in very similar circumstances to you @Unicorn. I’ve been with my much younger man for over 5 years now. The advice from my lawyer was categoric: pay for him to get good legal advice separately from another lawyer, and get the agreement signed long before the actual wedding. This helps to make the agreement enforceable should things go wrong later. (My lawyer described cases where the agreement had not been followed in the courts because the poorer party did not have the benefit of separate legal advice, or where it had all been done in the lead-up to the wedding.)

Interesting. I knew his modeling work had really dried up but I didn’t think he’d be so overt about the need to supplement his income. I’d assumed he’d stay ‘under-the-radar’: possibly aspire to be a “$1000 an hour” companion or seek to be the boyfriend of another movie actor.

My definition of a millennial is a man as young as 18 upto and including a man aged 30. As a very approximate indicator, I’d say it’s any man who grew up as the Harry Potter books were published.