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Of course, the manager will check first that the two guys are happy to work together, and you may have to spell out what you want. It occurs to me, however, that one or both of the guys may be reluctant to do certain things in the presence of the other, whereas if it’s one-on-one and seemingly ‘private’ each may do those acts readily.

I wonder which came first: that he has “blowjob lips” or that he’s given so many blowjobs ;-)

Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you wrote but I disagree @marylander1940. I think it’s assumed that any older single man, heterosexual or gay, will pay for dinner etc. on a first date. Maybe people will split the check on later occasions, but it’s still a date. When I was single, I had many first dates with guys in their 20s (actors/models), 30s (professional jobs) and 40s (business owners/professional jobs). I always paid the check but I noticed the occasions were rare when a guy offered to pay half. Not all of my first dates ended in the bedroom. FWIW I had 2 strange experiences while dating. 1. The first was a tall model, very easy on the eye, whom I took to dinner 3x. Our third date was convivial and he told me of a recent date he’d had (with a second-tier movie star who was “lousy in bed”). So after dinner I suggested he come home with me to finish the evening well - he declined, made an excuse and I never contacted him again. 2. The second was a very attractive trainee-doctor with whom I had a great first date. As I reached for the check, he grabbed it and offered to pay. I insisted that I pay as I’d invited him, but said he could pay next time. He called the next day to fix the second date; we had another good time together and he paid for dinner. And now it’s more than 5 years that we’ve been together.

What a great torso! I wonder why he felt he had to hide his face. Had some nice older man taken him on vacation to a coastal resort?

If you’re in a big city - I’m thinking of Manhattan or London - in the early stages of dating, you’d be spending at least $2500 a month on entertainment (dinners, drinks, theatre, movies etc). Weekend trips and vacations would obviously cost extra. If the relationship develops, it helps enormously if you can house the guy in an extra bedroom and bathroom in your apartment/house. Otherwise, you'd have to reckon on an extra $2500-3000 a month to help with housing costs and some allowance for clothes etc. Overall, I guess you’d need at least $5000-6000 a month free (from after-tax income or capital) to spend on your Prince Charming (or the equivalent of @bigjoey’s Matthew) I enjoy the company of fit-bodied, goodlooking young men so I never minded spending this sort of money. I viewed it as helping them make their way in the world, and of course it provided me with a great social life and entertainment.

Sorry to learn of your experience @Aaron James. For my part, I like the site for the simple reason that I had great success with SA and found my ideal guy in London. I do feel that any man who’s looking for his counterpart has to be persistent and use the site for longer than a “couple (of) months”. I think I kissed quite a lot of frogs for almost a year before I met my guy.

Thanks for the update @Unicorn. The one part that I take issue with is where you state I think it would be a major mistake to leave him in your home while you’re away for so long. You are assuming that the other man X is also finished with your ex and will keep quiet. If X is jealous of you or isn’t finished with him, X may inform him of your intended action so that he gets “sole custody”. Or if X is finished with him but feeling vengeful, he may have told your ex that he’s informed you and his ‘good life’ will end soon. You also wrote about your ex that “ he never stole anything from my house”. That’s unsurprising: you paid all his expenses. People do strange things when their lies and deceptions are exposed. Once your ex senses or knows that the end is coming, he may be inclined to take some valuable things away with him. I strongly urge you to change your plans to be away and to act at once. Then at least, this will be over and done with; you will be able to move on.

I’m sorry to read this @Unicorn. It’s always painful when love goes sour and you discover you’ve been used by your lover. If I may offer you some gratuitous advice: 1. You say you’re away at a conference in Chicago. Don’t say anything to him yet. Cut short your attendance and fly home unexpectedly to throw him out of your house. If there are uninvited guests in your home, call the police. 2. Make sure you are present while he is packing and clearing out. Ensure any valuables, especially small and portable ones, do not end up in his cases. 3. If he knows where you keep your important possessions or the combination to any safe in the house, check your possessions first and change the combination immediately. 4. Get a locksmith immediately afterwards to change all your locks and change the security alarm codes. 5. Yes, get tested just in case. That way, you will be sure you’re healthy. 6. Consider ‘getting back in the saddle’ soon...perhaps with a paid companion. FWIW I don’t think he’s “a sociopath”. You were kind and generous, and he simply took advantage of you. You’re not wrong to be open and loving; you just need to find a guy that deserves you. Please don’t listen to any excuses he makes nor to any promises that he’ll be “good” in the future. In a way, you’re lucky you found out his true nature before the wedding

I guess you must like very tall men @GTMike. I’ve seen him out and about. The photos are consistent with how he looks IRL. I’ve no knowledge of his companionship skills.

Have you tried learning to fly a glider instead?

As I get older, it all takes longer... 1. I eat very well (no fast food), drink lots of water daily (no sugary beverages) and drink wine moderately, and exercise each day. 2. I enjoy time in the sun but moisturise well before and after exposure to the sun 3. I emphasise personal grooming and I dress smartly in formal clothes, even to go grocery shopping

Very true @SirBIllybob The last (male strippers for men) club I knew of in London closed about 18 years ago.

I didn't chose any of those photos, so I am confused by your comment. You’re shown as the originator of post #31877 which has those photos @WilliamM. I didn’t intend you to be confused. I was simply expressing my views on the last young man featured; others may see him as physically desirable but I rather feel he’s a cock-tease towards gay men as I’ve seen him work his charms IRL.

Fascinating. Thanks for posting this, @samhexum I recently watched and was intrigued by a BBC documentary (“The octopus in my house”) where the same Alaskan marine biologist (David Scheel) had an octopus as a form of pet. Here’s a link to a good review of the documentary https://www.newstatesman.com/the-octopus-in-my-house-bbc-two-review And here’s a link to a clip, tho I don’t know if it will work in the US https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07kpmn1/p07kpm8m

What @Unicorn wrote resonates with me. I feel that ‘letting go’ is just as valid a response as forgiveness. I do, however, take issue with the more nuanced approach of @BnaC as a child lacks power vis-a-vis the parent. Contextualisation may only be possible as an adult. After a vicious upbringing, letting go and getting on with life as an adult may be best; it’s certainly freeing.

Yes. Luckily both Zander and his bf belong to our tribe. Andrea is pretty but I dislike his constant posturing: posing for advertisers in hotels with a young woman; flexing/getting naked with other young muscled men for OnlyFans; and professing to be str8 (tho I met him on a gay vacation).

Correct @WilliamM but Michael is aka Michael Johnson and Michael Dean Johnson

Michael’s a beauty (and with a nice dick). Newly married to a woman, tho. The pic directly above is also of him when younger.

You have good taste @MikeBiDude If the photos are to be believed, he is an attractive young man.

He was a guy I met regularly and supported while he studied for a degree in graphic design, and while he was getting established in his first job. My dominant nature meshed well with his submissive streak, and he still has a great physique.

As @wrestlerdanny put it “To me there is nothing hotter than having a sexy young guy take my load” I agree that there’s no finer sensation. Of course, it’s important to ask and have consent beforehand as some guys (me included) really dislike the taste of cum. As a lazy selfish top myself, I enjoy kicking back after some energetic fucking and having the bottom finish me off. And to me, that includes swallowing my load and keeping sucking until I finish spurting. I especially rate a guy swallowing my load as it enables me to relax fully; if I know a guy doesn’t want me to climax in his mouth, I have to stay very aware of my approaching orgasm and pull out in time. When I hired (now more than 5 years ago), I found a lot of guys enjoyed swallowing - maybe 40% of the guys I met. I’m still in touch with one handsome blond muscleboy-bottom who so loved the taste of my cum that as I spurted into his mouth, he himself would ejaculate hands-free.

Presumably if he thought the potential demand for his services was considerable in the US, he’d hire an immigration lawyer himself. It’s speculation on my part but he may have difficult issues with the IRS too...

Just to add to the original post by @Unicorn... I’m reading Elton John’s newly-published memoir. To me, it’s not just his father who was abusive; his mother was equally abusive. He describes his parents’ marriage as “toxic”. To give just one example about his mother, EJ writes “ ...she'd toilet-trained me by hitting me with a wire brush until I bled if I didn't use the potty.”

I can really relate to this @Rudynate. As an adult I did the same. My rationale was entirely selfish; I did not want to feel guilty in any way once she died. And I too do not miss my mother.

I had an abusive mother. It was not possible in later life for me to forgive her. We did manage to have a couple of long talks together as she neared the end of her life. What it has meant for me is that as an adult, I’ve had to work hard at being loving and caring as a person. Tho I always try not be judgemental and critical, it has left me quite intolerant of cruelty and nasty people.