DrownedBoy

A karmic circle. Those who try to hire him get an OF scam. EDIT Or stupid enough to try and hire; just as bad.

I know many providers have OF accounts, and we've all heard arguments about how some providers aren't meeting people, just trying to get people to subscribe. Apparently, it's a growing trend. Here's one without a phone number that requires clients to subscribe to OF to even contact him. Is this becoming more common, because to me it's just bait-and-switch. https://rent.men/Zakarieee#platinum

Chatting is always good. Personally, I'd prefer to hear what providers have to talk about. It seems like usually, they're the ones who have to sit and listen to other people talk about themselves.

I hired a guy like this once. His ad said he was "420 friendly". He was way more than that - he just started rolling a blunt the moment he arrived, without asking me (I made him use my balcony). The weed put him on his back on the floor. He wasn't even in a position to put an arm around me.

I've seen no shift in hiring platforms for the past decade. I see no rise in professionalism - you still have to search out good ones, and endlessly suffer the flakes. I'm sure OF and other content places are growing, but I personally need in person contact - you need more than the sense of sight. While some money is being made, it's rare to make good money off social media, especially when every escort and their brother is trying to.

Ditto, was going to meet with a visitor to Chicago, but his dates on the ad and what he claimed made no sense, and he seemed to be acting weird. Cancel.

He appears to be a "shaver". It may be desperation, but based on my reading of his texts and his post here, it appears to be narcissistic entitlement based on his inflated perception of himself as an elite bodybuilder. That is, he considers himself high class and sees nothing wrong between stealing a deposit here, some time there, as most people think he's honest. It's just money, and he's grabbing as much as possible while doing as little as possible. And only keeping the richest clients happy. He miscalculated, and his ad is down now. I guess he'll need to get another job to pay for those protein supplements.

All I wanted to add is, even with gay men, the older they get, the more likely they are to value true connection and soften their standards. That part is universal to all humans. When I was in my 20s, my gay friends were easily the most dysfunctional and troubled group I ever knew, and understood only physical attraction. I don't recall lots of guys in their 20s settling down.

Yeah exaggeration. It only happened to me once. I read someone mention a guy making a scene earlier.

Chicago is getting higher - the past few months I've seen a lot of new ads on RM. And saw the first ad offering discounts. And rates aren't at LA/ NYC levels. This market is the canary in the coal mine, as I think Simon here once said.

I'm a premium subscriber and always got negative comments removed - it's a private number (meaning anything is possible slander), and I tell them it's random insults from the gay community. Once I emailed them directly. It kept my entry clean. A lot of famed escorts have both good and bad reviews on Mr. Number. Some praise; others say he cut their time. YMMV.

I used ChatGPT as well, since I was playing with SA. Since I wasn't looking for actual sexual intercourse, I got estimates on what amateurs would accept. Surprisingly, it was correct - half of what escorts on RM make, roughly. SA guys gobbled that up, although they still require good screening. The price goes up with sex. Didn't need a computer analysis to tell me that.

Older millennial, but yeah, that's been my experience too. I also prefer the cuddling and conversation during hookups and sessions. And it's common to end up FaceBook friends even if you don't become FWB. The key word here is "listen". Anyone who doesn't let their partner talk, and at least get to know them, is not going to have good experiences. It works both ways, and if you just kick the guy out of the bed after sex, you're not going to make any friends. This applies to Grindr as well as providers, although there are always people you're not going to click with no matter what.

I'm sorry...I'll close this thread.

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Totally agree. I've seen this as a common problem with younger escorts. My past reasons for "firing" a regular include increasingly disrespectful behavior, chronic tardiness, a refusal to perform services they did in the past, and outright personality disorders they could no longer control (brought on by drug use). There's only one regular I've kept almost a decade. He locked in his rate then (although I tip), and actually refined his technique, developing (ahem BDSM) skills beyond others I met, hired or otherwise. And he brings younger amateur guys with him if asked, at wholesale. He gets extremely regular business with me and a Christmas bonus 😄 It's a rarity to find honest, mature professionals who are intelligent enough to see the long term advantages of playing nice. Every other regular I had followed the negative pattern I described.

I have a long-time regular who brings non-escort types as extras (college students, exotic dancers who aren't fully into escorting, etc.) for edit threesomes. He does make clear I have to go through him to see them, and I haven't seen them online or anything separately. And he handles the money. However, it's just great - he basically teaches them what I like during the sessions. And the price for amateurs is right.

Thank god I'm not in California....

Ugh. If I had that kind of money, I'd just go the houseboy route. Full salary and health insurance during employment. And like every other job in America, employment at will. Incentive enough to act affectionate. Getting legally married absolutely doesn't guarantee an "emotional connection", nor does it enhance the illusion of one. Re: Anna Nicole Smith.

Not dramatic enough. In LA, the cops know the spiel. Old gay guy calls cops because this young drug addicted homeless guy refuses to leave his house. He tells the cops that he was "only trying to help the kid out." The cops roll their eyes, mark it as a "domestic", and remove the homeless guy

They do that a lot. They think they're going to embarrass you, but instead, all they get is people who ignore their babbling, and security leading them out of the building.

Always ask first. The "you can suck me but I don't suck you" is a common oral statement. So is, "I'll kiss but no tongue." Make it clear beforehand, even if it is an "into".

Only time I tried contacting a guy like that on RentMen, he cancelled last minute. On this forum, I heard he did the same to another. Was just playing around.

I'd really like to take a sexcation to Africa, if possible, but looking through the advisories, there are a looooot of countries I can't even try to visit (staying away from Uganda...). I'm looking somewhere where men are available for hire, at South American-level prices. Not doing any anal sex in Africa. But the usual "safe" places like South Africa aren't that friendly to America right now. Anyone know safe places?

1. Inflation does not equal extra wages. Ask any working person. Supply and demand is the only measure, and if clients won't pay more than 300, that's what the provider gets. 2. OnlyFans income is overrated except for the most popular guys.