DrownedBoy

Compared to small Midwest towns with a population of 20,000, yes, Chicago is more expensive 😂 That being said, this thread is going off the rails again. Just because you "need" more money to live while escorting doesn't equal higher rates. Just because you "can't afford" higher rates doesn't mean they fall. Supply and demand is all that matters, and it doesn't care if you need to pay more in rent. I think the biggest market shift I've seen is the lack of major pricing shifts since around 2019, with slight falls and rises during and after the pandemic. 300 to 350 (and 500 for two hours, my standard) hasn't changed much despite massive inflation.

I don't know about prices yet, but the supply is definitely increasing on the provider side from new guys, which you have to be cautious with. Given how crappy the economy and job market is for young people, I can understand the influx. Plus, a lot of guys are travelling, and I started receiving dry RMs from traveling providers (I politely declined so didn't get their rates). One problem I see is that guys from LA or NYC go travelling around and think they'll get the same or more money in other places, failing to realize they're already in the highest priced market, and are overpriced to most other cities. I'm not paying NY prices in Chicago.

I'm so short, I have never in my life met another gay guy shorter than me, let alone an escort or a date. For some reason, that attracts short aggressive tops. They seem to like standing next to someone smaller in public, and apparently like pounding a small ass in private.

Ditto for the hotel. If it's an incall, anything takeable (wallet, keys, computer, etc.) is locked away in a side room. (if they want to steal my TV, they can have at it - it's almost 20 years old and not very smart)

I'm happy Luigi removed that POS CEO, but these fan girls cheapen a serious issue that kills thousands of Americans a year.

I always thought this intuitively, that sex workers were the canary in the coal mine for the American economy. Maybe because it's an instance of a completely unregulated, technically illegal, pure market, and because it allows unskilled workers a chance to learn and scale up (the ones that don't learn last a month). I wonder if I can write off some sessions as financial research

Yup, I've bumped into entitled brats like that. They get the boot - there's no bigger sexual turn off. As far as bluntness, I'm pretty vicious. Before I "fired" a former regular, I got an idea of his finances, lack of savings, and debt, and since he was in his 30s and losing attractiveness, I told him what to expect for retirement. If they screw me out of sexual pleasure, I'll get my pleasure by making them squirm.

Without getting political, I'll point out that Kyle Snyder was stung in Ohio. Like Georgia, where police did a horribly biased Grindr prostitution sting recently), those are red states. Seriously, in America more and more these days, different states are like different countries. Luckily, Cook County Illinois falls into the "England' category.

If an escort waits until the last minute to ask for an Uber (or a deposit), I cancel immediately. That needs to be discussed during the negotiation process. It's technically a breach of contract, and I consider to be a scam at well.

You miiiiight want to reread my last post.......

There's still MintBoys, but that's the "Las Vegas model," meaning buyer beware. It's free for anyone to put up and ad, but has no information on what the guys are willing to do. Also no rating system, no way to tell when they're available, and you have to watch out for heteros who think they can make money meeting women only.

The customer is always right, provided they stay within the terms of the agreed contract, and treat the provider like a human being (except during the role playing segments involving flogging). There have always been providers who are rude, and there's always been ones who excel at customer service. Just remember that agreeing with the customer is usually a good move, or at least nodding and respecting their options. I've met politically active providers said they argued back when a (conservative) customer said something. He never got hired by that customer again. But that's the same thing I'd do if, say, I had a Grindr hookup with someone in the other tribe.

My policy - if an escort says he wants 300/350 an hour, and doesn't give his two hour rate, I offer 500 for two hours, with the understanding that a lot of it will be cuddling and watching TV during the refractory period between orgasms. Otherwise, I never haggle. Especially when escorts say they want to "get to know my budget."

Just nod, smile, and accept the added services from your paid session. Escorting is basically acting, and good actors like viewers to temporarily believe it...for the scene. It's good business, as is complimenting escorts too. My sig says it all.

Ditto. I should note, though, that the masseurs who made a move on me were older guy-next-door types in my age range, not younger types. One tried to go anal while I was on my stomach, and I wouldn't let him. The other got on top of me while I was lying on my back and started kissing me, and I let him (he charged a token fee afterwards). Less a porn movie than a Grindr hookup between normal-looking guys.

The only thing you should worry about is a negative reaction. I've had regulars for years, and while I don't have proof, I'm pretty sure they scared away other guys I tried to hire.

That's what I do if someone quotes me an hourly rate of $400 or higher. They have to ask for 500 before I'd actually laugh directly at them. Which I have.

This. Picky providers don't seem to realize that supply and demand isn't on their side. When I get asked for a pic, there's usually at least 50 guys in a 20 mile radius currently available. I don't know about RM, but SA estimated there's 8 wanna be male sugar babies for every 1 sugar daddy with money. Good providers understand those economics; new kids always seem to think they're the exception until they learn the hard way.

I don't hire without seeing a face, and I have the money. Providers have the right to hide their face; I have the right to hide my money. If a provider is clearly trustworthy I'd exchange photos. Otherwise, I treat them the same as the closet cases on Grindr.

I have a provider I'm the "Chicago anchor" for, and he's been very reliable and loyal. Nonetheless, the following happened at the end of our first meeting. Posts - including from a trustworthy member of this forum - warned that he was bad with scheduling, and was flaked on by him. I warned him ahead of time about that warning. He arrived on time. I let him know in the meeting that kind of behavior was unacceptable. Afterwards, he insisted on sitting and watching as I gave him his review. He wasn't forcing me; just seemed like mild intimidation, as he's not a violent person from what I've seen. At the time he was relatively new and desperate for reviews from Premium members. Not sure who was being more manipulative. He has a guaranteed hire as long as we're both in Chicago at the same time, I get special treatment, he knows to show up on time, so all worked out.

I would recommend. For a Latino twink, he's very skilled and cooperative. As a twink, he has practically no arm strength, but does have a decent chest. His kissing was excellent, which is the top item in my book. Just turned 22. I'm sure he'd bottom but you guys would have to ask him. He speaks practically no English, but is adept and eager to use translator apps. His texts came through translated, and when I wanted him to do something, I'd just plug it into Google Translate, and he'd always do exactly as I asked with no complaints. He was respectful and humble, and has a car and is able to travel. I was very impressed by his punctuality - he arrived right on the dot, with no prompting, something I've never seen from a young Latino before. His looks are different from the "standard", but boyishly handsome - he claims to be Venezuelan, and his nose would indicate Moreno indigenous blood. I "retired" the last Latino twink from my pool 1.5 years ago, and I believe I'll add him to the rotation (I prefer muscle but do rotate based on my tastes for the evening). He asked for 350/hour; he immediately accepted my 500-for-2-hour counteroffer. He did ask for a 50 deposit, but I refused to send more than a token 20, which satisfied him. He had enough positive reviews that I could lose a 20 on a chance. The only negative was that, near the end of the session, he seemed antsy and was texting a friend until I convinced him to put his phone down. Otherwise he was attentive. I'll leave out the gory details; I just recommend, especially for the type of guys who go for young Latino twinks, and who are good with translator apps.

In ideal roleplay, I'd have them wear certain costumes, but I wouldn't dare in real life. I'm sure those costumes would offend people. Especially if they're culturally or racially coded.

I'll let you know after tonight.

Read and learn boy 🙄 https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/162679-freddieflame-denver/#comment-2418752

I bet lots of guys are afraid of retaliation or something for bad reviews. Something that never bothered me.