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I’m always surprised at the complaints over pricing. If you can’t afford it don’t buy it. No one is forcing you to buy the service. 

As a three-time SA survivor, this is a lot easier said than done. Also, calling the police can make a situation worse, particularly if you're BIPOC or trans. My first assault was when I was 9. I was more worried about "admitting" I was gay than holding them accountable so I told my mother and teachers they just beat me up. The other two instances would have come down to me said/he said. There was no physical evidence in the second instance because it was coercive, not violent. The second, which was a massage therapist at a high-end, non-sexual salon didn't leave any evidence beyond would could be explained from giving me a massage. 
I have since gotten a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and kick box regularly. And I only meet with people who have an excellent track record and lots of reviews. 
Of course, if people feel they have evidence or fear further violence, the police may help. But it's not a panacea. 

Yes. I've had to bolt out the door and run away on the street more times than I can count. 
However, the providers have far more scary and weird experiences. Perhaps due to the sheer volume of people they see versus clients.

I am rather shocked by all these posts questioning an increase in rates.
Are NONE of you aware the dollar collapsed ?
EVERYTHING will go up. That's Basic economic theory.
Print more money ( a LOT of Money btw during the Covid panic ) and the value of your dollar bill goes down
 
 

Storytime
My first night of massaging, my client was this young Leonardo DiCaprio looking guy. Before the massage he asked if I could help him clean his kitchen and I agreed since he would pay me for it. He told me I did a shitty job and that he grew up with his parents who were maids. LOL. I was going to throw away a water bottle with brown fluid in it and he stopped me, and said it was G. I didnt know what it was and he didn't explain before nor after he drank it. 
He told me to continue wiping his countertops and then he passed out in another room while watching Fashion Police. When I told him I was done, he wouldn't wake up. He was alive, but he wouldnt wake up. So I just sat around, and then looked around his home. Not to steal, but to just look around. His apartment looked like it was full of antique russian furniture, he was Albanian, and he had framed candid pictures of Kim Kardashian everywhere.
Eventually, maybe a few hours later, he woke up. He apparently overdosed on G, the date rape drug some gays use to party with, and then he asked me to drive him to a burger place around the corner while he yelled at the club goer pedestrians on santa monica blvd, and called them the forbidden F word. That was that. I never got to massage him.  I never heard from again probably because I texted him and asked if he was taking it easy with the G. 
 
Shortly after that I massaged a few times, or at least I tried to XXXXXX. He was always wasted drunk and seemed really lonely. I think he just wanted me over to have company because I only massaged him once. He always wanted to get it on but he wasn't my type. He always wanted to pay in gift cards despite buying some sterile, metallic $5 million house in the hills. He seemed to have a nervous breakdown when I curiously asked him if he fucked his porn star models. He drank too much birthday cake flavored vodka once and threw up and passed out but woke up later and gave me hundreds of dollars of Andrew Christian gift certificates which I flipped.
 
It's common every now and then to encounter a really drunk client. Luckily not one that's on anything really intense or scary. Once a client injected meth into his dick and wanted me to roleplay and talk like I was his real life son; he did have a legal age son. So I vaguely remember saying some coy shit you'd read in some Josman Art comic, pretend to pleasure myself, and he took care of himself and I left.
 
I hate massaging men and noticing genital warts or toilet paper in their ass cracks. 100% of the time, those clients will hit on me and want to play. Those appointments are super scary. I remember that almost every client I've seen in a hotel, had toilet paper in their cracks or smelled like they just took a dump. I don't understand that when they had plenty of time to jump in the shower right there. I guess they didn't respect me as the gutter whore they thought I am. LOL
I usually hate massaging psychologists and therapists because they always seem so cold, quiet, and distant. Like dude, I'm not YOUR client. You don't have to put up that wall and dissociate with me. Well I massaged a really hot young one who has a social media presence, but as usual, he is single and lonely and called me over after a night of drinks. We played around and it was fun, but he vomited, in his toilet, and passed out and I made sure he was okay and tucked into bed with water on the nightstand and the curtains drawn...
 
 I don't steal nor do I assault. The memories and lessons are probably worth more to me.  I take care of my passed out clients. I'm no Cardi B. Another tip for masseurs and escorts is to get the morning after texts.
 
One client wanted me to help shave his balls. I noticed that as I was shaving his perineum/taint, he kept sexually moving his body and he wanted me to penetrate him with the hand held side of the razor. That was his thing. The next morning I got the text messages from Hell like he was going to kill me. He thought I took the razor home with him. It was like a $1 gillet disposable razor, nothing special, but special to him. I just told him I didnt remember what's happened to it, maybe it we thrown away, and that I wouldn't want to keep that shit. He later apologized and said he found it somewhere.
 
Last year on my birthday, I massaged a really hot psychotherapist that specializes in gay "conversion therapy." They rebrand it as something else though. He was really beautiful and comfortable with his body.  That wasn't a dangerous or scary appointment of course, and I've been thinking of contacting him again to hang out because I do admire his work and the work of his well known colleagues on social media, and I've shown my loyalty by being quiet about our first meet up for almost a year. He can trust me LOL
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He used to advertise years ago. He's a Russian guy, who looked like his pictures - super built and ripped. Claimed to be straight(ish). He gave a really good therapeutic deep tissue massage. as for release he generally would not do to the client (YMMV) but allowed the client to massage him while releasing themselves.  So it will not be a truly erotic experience but I recommended him as it was a great massage from a very hot guy.

Owen isn’t worth the $.  His pictures are not particularly accurate.  The massage isn’t great and the extras are pretty mechanical.  While I appreciate how many times he complimented me on my body and appearance, that didn’t make up for his lackluster experience.  

In Los Angeles $200 for a massage is the norm especially if you like massages with special attention. I think that’s a fair rate especially when you consider Los Angeles rent is extremely expensive.

Two intriguing new ads in Los Angeles. Any experience? 
https://rentmasseur.com/OwenGrey
https://rentmasseur.com/MJack
Owen is out only, quoted $150 strict therapeutic, $200 "both nude", $300 MT/release
MJack quoted $150 strict therapeutic incall, $200 "sensual" incall. Requested minimum $50 extra for out. I'll likely try him first.

If you have had conversations or even met, and he has decided to stop talking to you, I would say keep your peace. He has decided to move on. An explanation would have been nice, but I don't think he is under any obligation to give you one. Either of you could have done that. If, on the other hand he has ghosted you on an appointment, it's not unreasonable to share that information here.

This is very common in my experience too. Different hairstyles, or amount of body/facial hair. A guy with the exact same body can go from super hot to not attractive at all to me based on his hairstyle alone.
That's why I'll only meet guys if I see a very recent social media post or if I see them in person somewhere.

Yes, he advertised a few years back as well. The photos are him. Incredible face and body. His massage skills weren't so good but he offered other services. I reached out to him recently and now he wants a $50 deposit so I passed.

This is very common in my experience too. Different hairstyles, or amount of body/facial hair. A guy with the exact same body can go from super hot to not attractive at all to me based on his hairstyle alone.
That's why I'll only meet guys if I see a very recent social media post or if I see them in person somewhere.

This is very common in my experience too. Different hairstyles, or amount of body/facial hair. A guy with the exact same body can go from super hot to not attractive at all to me based on his hairstyle alone.
That's why I'll only meet guys if I see a very recent social media post or if I see them in person somewhere.

This is very common in my experience too. Different hairstyles, or amount of body/facial hair. A guy with the exact same body can go from super hot to not attractive at all to me based on his hairstyle alone.
That's why I'll only meet guys if I see a very recent social media post or if I see them in person somewhere.

Sometimes the providers still are in shape or what not but look meaningfully different in other ways. For example, the pictures are of someone smooth chested,  clean cut, with a coiffed pompadour  with lots of hair product, and the guy who shows up has piercings, tattoos, and a shaved head BUT a hairy chest (this happens to me A LOT.)
I’ve turned guys away at the door for not looking like their pictures  many times and warned them advance that I would do so. Like I SPECIFICALLY use the above examples. I don’t care if you or your friends think your new look is better- it’s not what has pictured or discussed. And still the guys think they can show up not looking like what’s advertised.
It sounds like you did not have the courage to say “no” before the sessions began.

Interesting topic!  I've been extremely judicious before deciding to hire and probably wouldn't make an escort rich.  I think my expectations are lower and I enjoy the "guy-next door," plain and maybe could use a few visits to the gym, type of guy.  I have "over spent" although not often, but alternatively I would have done better flushing money down the toilet and just wanking (suggestion; don't flush your money but do WANK).  My expectations are lower and perhaps that is a safe zone and, I guess, my experience has demonstrated I'm likely to be more successful and less disappointed.

Before I begin, I want to say that these are my opinions based on personal experiences. After 10 years of hiring men, I can say that I’m totally giving up on it. I’m in my 30’s, so I guess I’m a little pickier, but of the 100+ men I’ve hired over the years, I can honestly only think of 3-4 that were actually worth it. Most of the time, the guy does not look nearly as good as his pictures ( not as muscular, older than advertised, different body pics used, etc.). Most of these guys I could likely meet for free. Somewhere down the line, hiring men became an addiction because I’ve suffered from low self esteem most of my life and any sort of rejection would put me in a funk.   I’m realizing now that spending so much money just to avoid my fears is not helping me in the long run.
 
I feel so ashamed to have spent so much money over the years for companionship I basically could have received for free had I stuck to a workout routine. 
I will say that the worst escorts are usually the Eastern European/Russian ones or the South American ones. They’re usually the rudest and more likely to have misleading pictures/ show disinterest.
I don’t mean to offend anyone with my post. They’re my experiences and options.
 
 

Yes, he advertised a few years back as well. The photos are him. Incredible face and body. His massage skills weren't so good but he offered other services. I reached out to him recently and now he wants a $50 deposit so I passed.

Yes, he advertised a few years back as well. The photos are him. Incredible face and body. His massage skills weren't so good but he offered other services. I reached out to him recently and now he wants a $50 deposit so I passed.

Yes, he advertised a few years back as well. The photos are him. Incredible face and body. His massage skills weren't so good but he offered other services. I reached out to him recently and now he wants a $50 deposit so I passed.

He used to be Germanboy or something like that. Has been advertising for years. PM me for more details.

He used to be Germanboy or something like that. Has been advertising for years. PM me for more details.

I'm curious what the open hostility was. Did they just turn you down or were they actively hostile and rude

Maybe a five o clock shadow at most. Square jaw and handsome.