Any appointments felt outright dengerous?

[+ Jamesp]

For past two years, I was home stuck with no massages. So since travel started, I am using every opportunity to explore. Recently I was in Indiana and booked an appointment ( Trying to leave name out). I learned this long time back so I generally book separate room possibly in a different hotel. Unfortunately I didnot have that choice this time. This person walks in, I get ready and massage started. I am not sure about the reason, may be too many appointments that day ( Can't imagine in that city) or just not into me ( very rare occurrence), but he seemed not into it. May be 5 mins in, he stoped. I looked up to check the reason and person was getting dressed. I asked what happened and he started yelling profanities with lots of Fs. Next thing I know he storms out of the room and I was really worried. I changed hotel that was 30 mins drive away.

[Medin]

Yes.  I had a masseur hold me at knife point and steal my wallet back in Aug 2019.  He is still active on all the massage sites but has changed his name at least nine times since then.  All attempts to have him banned from RM and MF have been futile unfortunately.  I've been exceptionally cautious ever since.  

[jtwalker]

I once had one say that he had someone follow me home and threaten to post a video to YouTube.  I ditched all my burner everything and never heard from him again.  He still lists himself on RM from time to time, but I learned to be far more careful about who I hire in the first place.  If someone doesn't have a year of experience, 10 reviews with an average score of 4.75, and a face pic... it is a no go for me.  These guys seem to get found out well before they can keep a single profile active for a year.

[Isrhunter]

I had a guy who seemed a bit off when I met him. He needed to go to the bathroom every few minutes. Third time it happened I peeked and saw him snorting drugs. So I decided to run away. He called me several times but I didn't answer. Then messaged threats to me. I just blocked him. 

 

 

[+ poolboy48220]

I hired a duo who came to my house, pretty sure one guy was wandering around the house while I was engaged with the other. That felt dangerous.

[Leyte2019]

Congratulations-youve all convinced me to stick to banking business today on my trip to Atlanta. No hooking up with that new masseur I've had my eyes on for weeks.

[Tonyko]

Once I was house sitting for a wealthy dude in the Hollywood Hills, I hired a guy (wrong of me wasn't my house) who was really cute but a little too interested in the expensive things that were all over asked a lot of questions etc.  After we finished he used a hall bathroom to clean up, this bathroom had sliding glass doors that led out to a garden and Koi pond. After he left I went outside to smoke a joint and noticed a metal bar tossed on the gravel.  Took me a few minutes to realize it was the security bar that sat in the track of those glass doors to stop it from opening, and when I tried the door from the outside it slid open, unlocked.    He was obvs planning to come back.  It scared the shit outta me I put the bar back locked the place up tight and stayed up all night with every light in the house on. 

 

[Isrhunter]

3 hours ago, Leyte2019 said:

Congratulations-youve all convinced me to stick to banking business today on my trip to Atlanta. No hooking up with that new masseur I've had my eyes on for weeks.

At least for me it was only one time out of many. There were red flags from the start but I chose to ignore them because I was not thinking with my head. 

[CMail01]

I had a somewhat terrifying experience about nine years ago, and it was my fault. A guy was advertising somewhere off the 405, north of Brentwood-ish. You’d get a scrubdown in a shower with six heads, a “Japanese soak” (I believe) in a warm bath, and a massage. (It appears pretty much all of us walk into new situations with a bit of trepidation, which is smart.) The scrub was fine, but during the soak, he wanted me to lie back with my head just barely above the water, him holding me, and I thought, “Oh fk, he’s going to try to drown me, and I think he’ll succeed.” What panic. Obviously I “won” in telling him I didn’t want the DAMN soak, and I’m alive. It was terrifying in that moment. 

[Jamie21]

Wow those are some scary stories. Everyone should be ultra careful when hiring. If there’s even a hint that your provider is on drugs, or looks too good to be true then trust your instincts and not your cock and avoid him. 

Look for guys who’ve been around a while, are ok to talk and engage with you, with a website or professional looking pictures and good reviews. There’s no one single thing that is a guarantee but the whole package and proposal should stack up and feel legitimate. 

Unfortunately there’s a lot of unprofessional chancers in the industry. But I guess that means those of us who take the work seriously will stand out. 

[Rand]

 

[Luv2play]

While I have never had a bad experience such as those described here, I did hire a masseur which then transitioned into an escort session. His massages were only body rubs but he was a lot of fun when things got hotter.

I saw him several times and he opened up a bit about his experiences with clients. One pulled a knife on him and he got slashed across the abdomen. He had a 9 inch scar to show for it. As a result he had very strict rules about outcalls, when this had happened. He wouldn't take first time clients except at his place. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Luv2play

[+ Coolwave35]

Yes. I was almost robbed by a sketchy provider. I was robbed at a bath house. While I was cumming in his mouth he was picking my pocket. I’ve gotten smarter since then. 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Coolwave35

[maninsoma]

I think it's important to distinguish being actual danger (i.e., the provider did something or said something that was threatening or actually violent) and being worried that someone could do something to you if he wanted.  Let's face it -- when getting a massage, the client is usually naked and frequently the masseur isn't (or at least doesn't start out naked).  The client is face down on a massage table so he cannot see what might be going on around him.  If you let your imagination run wild, you could perceive danger every time a masseur takes his hands off your body when he might just be getting more massage lotion, adjusting the heat or music, or something benign. 

At any rate, only once did I feel any sort of danger.  I hired this masseur off Craigslist and let him into my place because he matched his photos and seemed nice enough.  After I was naked he demanded that I pay him in full up front, something I never do.  He also was immediately trying to upsell me by basically saying that the agreed upon rate was for a short bodyrub with him fully clothed and I had to pay more if I wanted more.  To make the story shorter, I asked him to leave and started to get dressed but he basically said he wasn't going to leave unless I paid him.  I ended up giving him half his fee (I don't even remember what that was, but given I hired him off Craigslist for massage his full fee was probably $100 or so) and he left.  I wouldn't exactly say I was robbed, but I definitely felt scammed out of the money I paid him.  There's no way I would have hired him had he communicated online what he communicated in person, and given the size/fitness level difference I didn't feel like I had any option to get him to leave other than to give him money.  I was annoyed that I allowed myself to get scammed in this way, but at least grateful that he left without things getting ugly.

[Brian Kevin]

Anyone and everyone who was assulted, robbed, or robbed at knife point. you should call the police. When I was sexually assukted and robbed filming content in Boston, when i called 911 and has to file my reports and get my rape kit, I was totally honest and transparent. If you guys don't hold the guy who hurt you accountable, you are allowing them to hurt the next guy. 

You should be saying their names, leaving reviews, using Mr. Number to warn other guys... the last thing you should be doing is hiding behind a computer talking passively saying you don't wanna mention their name, you're right, don't mention their name, scream it.

[Guest MikeThomas]

Once… with Scott Randsome.

[Rudynate]

Just once.  I met with a provider I first contacted on A4A.  The initial communication was a little bumpy, but I felt comfortable enough to go through with it.   He turned out to be a badly damaged Iraq war vet, who was weird enough in person so that I felt uncomfortable around him.  Nothing happened, the appointment was OK. In terms of his orientation, he told me he was "heterocentric."  I hadn't heard the term before.  He said it meant that he liked sex with guys but only formed emotional attachments with women and he texted me and wanted to do another appointment.   I didn't take him up on it.

Edited April 14, 2022 by Rudynate
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[+ jeezopete]

On 4/13/2022 at 11:48 PM, Coolwave35 said:

While I was cumming in his mouth he was picking my pocket.

Now that's a guy who can multitask!  😲

[+ Coolwave35]

3 hours ago, jeezopete said:

Now that's a guy who can multitask!  😲

I was angry and delighted at the same time. Lol 

[Vulgarii]

Clients can't see my knives, hammers,na machete, and baseball bats that I have hidden around my apartment for easy access in case shit gets real.

I have them for my safety and havent yet needed to use them. Us masseurs and rentboys get assaulted, robbed, and murdered, often, actually, and no one cares. Our "community" doesn't care and our gay organizations will barely talk about anything unless they get to profit off it and use it to their advantage. Why hasn't anyone caused a stir over Ed Buck, and the other gay on gay homicides that practically happen every week when you really look for them in local news reports? 

Anyway...Storytime!

 

I went to a new client's home late at night and when I parked, a huge guy walked out in the dark and gave me a signal by flashing a flashlight which I thought was to indicate that it's him. Well, he was expecting someone else and my real client was next door. Lol. None of the lights worked in his house, which seemed to have been empty in the dark and I basically massaged him on a mattress in a dark room. What a brave, stupid, yet lucky little yuppie masseur I was! 

 

Years later I started to massage an attorney, and he and an associate started to stalk me and play weird mind games. They would set appointments and not show up and then gaslight me that they knocked on my door and left notes on it. The attorney wiped his fecal matter on my bath towel and then lied and said he stepped on dog shit and wiped his shoe with it. Really? Who does that? I make everyone leave their shoes at my door. The other guy asked me a list of questions like he was a cop and was trying to figure me out. He kept requesting for me to show him my dick and I wouldn't, even though he never got nude either. Then he lied and said he dropped his credit card in my place and I let him come back to look for it. I thought it was maybe a codeword for something, like he'd come back and I'd be naked and ready so technically he didn't pay for sex, he just paid for the massage. Anyway, all that crap ended with the both of them when I made it clear to the attorney that I didnt want to massage him anymore. I come from an affluent family that is part black and involved with city councils and local masonic lodges so in a paranoid manner, I figured those two clients were sent to observe me or fuck with me based on specific details things that they said. This is a weird, creepy world with many layers and inner circles in it. There are certain rules these families and circles abide by when it comes to their own blood. They can mess with you psychologically but they can't cause direct physical harm, and all this is a subject for another day and another forum. Sorry for going off on a tangent but it's the top of the iceberg of my weird, creepy and even dangerous adventures of being a masseur. 

Edited April 16, 2022 by Vulgarii

[jtwalker]

Seems like most of us ignored some red flags, myself included.  Gotta think with the big head, not the little one.

[+ Pensant]

I’ve been lucky so far, but I’ve dramatically reduced my participation in this hobby and only see a few long-time providers anymore. When I lived in SoCal, I invited far too many newbies to my house. I also recently had a terrifying loss of consciousness and myriad tests and specialists concluded that it wasn’t a seizure, TIA, stroke, etc., so I now worry about it recurring during a session. It was deemed idiopathic.

[Guest]

On 4/15/2022 at 3:05 PM, Vulgarii said:

Clients can't see my knives, hammers,na machete, and baseball bats that I have hidden around my apartment for easy access in case shit gets real...havent yet needed to use them....

I'd hate to see the scene when you do need to use them! 😬

Edited April 18, 2022 by Unicorn

[Vulgarii]

Storytime

My first night of massaging, my client was this young Leonardo DiCaprio looking guy. Before the massage he asked if I could help him clean his kitchen and I agreed since he would pay me for it. He told me I did a shitty job and that he grew up with his parents who were maids. LOL. I was going to throw away a water bottle with brown fluid in it and he stopped me, and said it was G. I didnt know what it was and he didn't explain before nor after he drank it. 

He told me to continue wiping his countertops and then he passed out in another room while watching Fashion Police. When I told him I was done, he wouldn't wake up. He was alive, but he wouldnt wake up. So I just sat around, and then looked around his home. Not to steal, but to just look around. His apartment looked like it was full of antique russian furniture, he was Albanian, and he had framed candid pictures of Kim Kardashian everywhere.

Eventually, maybe a few hours later, he woke up. He apparently overdosed on G, the date rape drug some gays use to party with, and then he asked me to drive him to a burger place around the corner while he yelled at the club goer pedestrians on santa monica blvd, and called them the forbidden F word. That was that. I never got to massage him.  I never heard from again probably because I texted him and asked if he was taking it easy with the G. 

 

Shortly after that I massaged a few times, or at least I tried to XXXXXX. He was always wasted drunk and seemed really lonely. I think he just wanted me over to have company because I only massaged him once. He always wanted to get it on but he wasn't my type. He always wanted to pay in gift cards despite buying some sterile, metallic $5 million house in the hills. He seemed to have a nervous breakdown when I curiously asked him if he fucked his porn star models. He drank too much birthday cake flavored vodka once and threw up and passed out but woke up later and gave me hundreds of dollars of Andrew Christian gift certificates which I flipped.

 

It's common every now and then to encounter a really drunk client. Luckily not one that's on anything really intense or scary. Once a client injected meth into his dick and wanted me to roleplay and talk like I was his real life son; he did have a legal age son. So I vaguely remember saying some coy shit you'd read in some Josman Art comic, pretend to pleasure myself, and he took care of himself and I left.

 

I hate massaging men and noticing genital warts or toilet paper in their ass cracks. 100% of the time, those clients will hit on me and want to play. Those appointments are super scary. I remember that almost every client I've seen in a hotel, had toilet paper in their cracks or smelled like they just took a dump. I don't understand that when they had plenty of time to jump in the shower right there. I guess they didn't respect me as the gutter whore they thought I am. LOL

I usually hate massaging psychologists and therapists because they always seem so cold, quiet, and distant. Like dude, I'm not YOUR client. You don't have to put up that wall and dissociate with me. Well I massaged a really hot young one who has a social media presence, but as usual, he is single and lonely and called me over after a night of drinks. We played around and it was fun, but he vomited, in his toilet, and passed out and I made sure he was okay and tucked into bed with water on the nightstand and the curtains drawn...

 

 I don't steal nor do I assault. The memories and lessons are probably worth more to me.  I take care of my passed out clients. I'm no Cardi B. Another tip for masseurs and escorts is to get the morning after texts.

 

One client wanted me to help shave his balls. I noticed that as I was shaving his perineum/taint, he kept sexually moving his body and he wanted me to penetrate him with the hand held side of the razor. That was his thing. The next morning I got the text messages from Hell like he was going to kill me. He thought I took the razor home with him. It was like a $1 gillet disposable razor, nothing special, but special to him. I just told him I didnt remember what's happened to it, maybe it we thrown away, and that I wouldn't want to keep that shit. He later apologized and said he found it somewhere.

 

Last year on my birthday, I massaged a really hot psychotherapist that specializes in gay "conversion therapy." They rebrand it as something else though. He was really beautiful and comfortable with his body.  That wasn't a dangerous or scary appointment of course, and I've been thinking of contacting him again to hang out because I do admire his work and the work of his well known colleagues on social media, and I've shown my loyalty by being quiet about our first meet up for almost a year. He can trust me LOL

Moderator Note: References to specific individuals have been edited out of the post per our Community Guidelines.  

[Medin]

On 4/14/2022 at 7:47 AM, Brian Kevin said:

Anyone and everyone who was assulted, robbed, or robbed at knife point. you should call the police. When I was sexually assukted and robbed filming content in Boston, when i called 911 and has to file my reports and get my rape kit, I was totally honest and transparent. If you guys don't hold the guy who hurt you accountable, you are allowing them to hurt the next guy. 

You should be saying their names, leaving reviews, using Mr. Number to warn other guys... the last thing you should be doing is hiding behind a computer talking passively saying you don't wanna mention their name, you're right, don't mention their name, scream it.

I wish it was that easy.  In my case, I have tried to report the guy who pulled the knife on me and robbed me.  I have contacted both RM sites and was told it's not their problem.  I've also posted all of his profile names on multiple websites and forums and they were removed.  I know of at least one other client on this site who had the exact same situation from this violent provider and has also not been able to post about it.  I was told I needed to "prove" it happened and that if I wanted to post negative comments about providers, I would need to find another website.  In short, we are not passively hiding behind a computer.