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I remember having more of your nervousness when I was new to hiring. I'll just throw out some ideas that will hopefully calm some of your anxiety: There definitely aren't police stings in San Francisco for men hiring escorts online, assuming you don't go after someone who looks too young (and I don't even know if law enforcement is using their resources to address sex exploitation like that), so I really don't think there's a reason to be concerned with law enforcement here. I cannot speak to the other cities you listed. I think a far bigger concern would be to choose some shady character who attempts to harm/extort you. Since you mention your career could be at risk if this came to light, it doesn't take law enforcement for your hiring to become public knowledge. There have been previous threads here about providers who attempted to blackmail clients after having gotten personal information about them using their phone number, address, real name, etc. I personally never worried about this because I didn't care if my family found out and don't think it would have impacted my job, but if you are in that position my recommendation is this: Stick to guys with a proven track record of providing services and getting positive reviews. I'm not talking a few 5-star reviews on Rentmen, which can be manipulated quite easily by a shady alleged provider. I'm talking about following forum advice and hiring guys who have a positive reputation amongst members here. Now that I attempted to minimize your anxiety a bit, I will perhaps raise it with this somewhat scary tale from my past: I called a phone number in an escort ad on Craigslist 25 years or so ago and the number I called was answered "San Francisco Police Department." I hung up. I got a call back and got a "lecture" from someone saying I should be careful about what I was doing because I could get in trouble. I don't think the call back was from the police. I think some vigilante was just playing games and trying to scare people who were hiring escorts.

I'll be the contrarian here. I think there's a lot of justification/rationalization on this site regarding rates and quality. I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. Some of the worst erotic massages I ever had were from guys who charged the most. One of my favorite escorts (whom I hired many times) was a college student who set his rates so low that I always tipped him very generously. My other regular had rates that were average at the time. I also used to hire off Craigslist quite a lot and had many good experiences with guys whose rates were on the lower end, and a few times I hired guys with higher profiles for a higher rate and didn't enjoy myself nearly as much. One of the worst was a "porn star" who just seemed haggard and very well may have been coming down off a meth bender. I'm not saying that I never enjoyed myself with someone whose rates were towards the top of the tier; I'm just saying that my enjoyment historically has had little correlation with how much I was paying.

Maybe it's the early hour (damned insomnia!), but I am already confused by this thread. Is the question whether the guy pictured in the ad actually the person advertising escort services? Or is the question whether those photos actually depict a real person? Is the response a confirmation that the photos are of a real person? Or is there a suggestion that the guy pictured in the ad is the one actually advertising? I ask because I assume the issue at hand is whether this is a legit escort ad and not yet another one with stolen photos, but the conversation so far seems more about identifying that the photos belong to someone.

I recently developed an interest in a show called "My 600 Lb Life." I'll admit that it's mostly morbid curiosity that got me hooked, as I've never previously encountered people who weighed so much. I'm only mentioning the show here because a lot of these people have to travel many miles to a clinic in Houston, so they are driving for days and staying in hotels. I've yet to see an episode where someone broke the bed, and given the show's obvious desire to exploit its subjects I'm sure they'd include that if it happened. I've also never seen an episode where someone cannot get down a hallway in their wheelchair. I have seen episodes where the person had to get a different room assignment because their wheelchair wouldn't fit in an elevator, which sort of surprised me. I guess ADA excludes some smaller hotels from having to comply with certain things that would be extremely costly, like replacing an elevator? I think all larger hotels do have rooms specifically designed for people with medical needs, and I'm guessing that this woman simply believes that all rooms in all hotels should be designed to accommodate her extraordinary needs just as she thinks that she shouldn't have to pay for a second seat when flying coach and that instead everyone's fares should go up in order that airlines can change their seat configurations such that every seat will accommodate the morbidly obese.

I checked out Hunqz last night. I think there are fewer than 10 providers in the San Francisco area. Most of them also advertise on Rentmen, and the one I'd never seen before didn't appeal to me. If more providers move their ads to Hunqz and cancel their Rentmen ads, I'm sure the clients will follow. I don't know anything about Hunqz, but Rentmen's demise (or, at least, the loss of their monopoly of the market in the US) wouldn't be a bad thing as far as I am concerned.

I interpreted the preceding sentence as the "something new," meaning being discreet/not sharing many details was the something new for Coolwave. "Oddly enough, he asked for discretion. I told him I’d try something new."

I used to host a lot when I was a renter. After I bought my place I started preferring to do outcalls.

Seriously? The guy has been discussed here so many times, including in a thread that's still getting replies where is being compared with another Los Angeles area escort. Easy enough to find his ad if you want to look: https://rent.men/Rainer

I don't know why your clients haven't posted reviews for you, but I have never submitted a review on Rentmen because I don't have an account there. I used to submit reviews on the previous incarnations of this site, though. One question for you: If you'd like you grow your business, why don't you include a link to your Rentmen ad in your profile here?

Why even respond to what's obviously a scam message?

Hugh Jackman escorts? What's his rate?

Jarrod definitely has that right, but is exercising that right here, in a forum that's largely made up of clients who hire escorts, wise?

The sad thing is that if the guy finds out that people know the fake photo he's using, it's easy enough for him to steal someone else's photo. Similar with a phone number -- easy enough for a scammer to simply get a new phone number when he realizes the one he's currently using has been identified as belonging to a scammer. That's why I hold these two things to be true: 1. Caveat emptor. Ultimately, we as clients are responsible for verifying the legitimacy of the providers we contact. This is especially true since in most locations where clients live, sex work is not legal. If you hire some other business professional and they cannot or do not perform the work paid for, at least you have some avenues of recourse. With escorts you just have to chalk up your loss/bad experience as an unfortunate thing from which you hopefully learned something to avoid having it repeated. 2. Rentmen really should at least verify that the photos used in ads match the identify of the person paying for the ad. At least that would cut down on some of the thievery. But, again, it's clear that Rentmen will only act after someone else brings to their attention that the ad is fraudulent. By that point it's too late for the clients who have already been scammed or, worse, assaulted.

I don't see how using CashApp can cause someone to be able to drain your linked bank account, unless you are very sloppy with your account credentials. I'm not saying this because I'm fond of payment apps (I prefer to pay in cash for escorts or masseurs), but based on what I've read it doesn't sound like someone receiving money from you on an app automatically has the ability to take other money.

A couple of times I arranged a meeting through a manager/scheduler, unbeknownst to me. In both cases I discovered this after showing up for the appointments, and the guys explained that because English was their second language they preferred having someone else schedule their appointments.

Someone saying they are available the rest of the day doesn't mean you shouldn't try to set a specific time (more or less) with them. It sounds like you were driving some distance to get to the guy, so I get that it might have been difficult to give a precise time. Based on the screen shots, though, it sounds like the client anticipated you being there much earlier and your interpretation was that it didn't matter if you arrive within an hour or several hours later. Maybe some clients would be okay with that, but I expect that a lot of guys would be irritated sitting around waiting. The wording of "I have a couple of things to do first" doesn't even say much. Does that mean I have to wash my dishes and take my dog out to pee, or I am in the middle of painting my house and then have to do my grocery shopping for the week? Again, I expect that a lot of guys would assume that someone who has "a couple of things to do first" means a few easily accomplished tasks, not something that's going to take a long time. All of this could be avoided by you actually scheduling an appointment. Sorry if the above has already been addressed by someone else. I haven't read all of the back-and-forth in this thread yet.

Sean Ford has gone from twink to twunk. Still looking very sexy. I'm puzzled why this is in the Deli. So far I haven't seen any indication that he escorts, so wouldn't it make more sense to discuss Sean's attractiveness in the area devoted to porn?

Yes, the links provided above do not work. But the guy is probably already back on Rentmen under another name using fake pictures. It really is too bad that Rentmen dominates the market since they seem to care only about money, with no concern about how frequently their site is used by scammers.

And yet here we are in a thread that was started precisely because Homeland Security and Dallas/Ft Worth police set up a sting to trap straight men who attempted to hire escorts. Am I saying it's likely that the same thing will happen in either Dallas or elsewhere regarding gay men? No. But I don't think it's beyond reason to think that it could. Rentmen being based in the Netherlands has nothing to do with it. All that means is that the Feds cannot attempt to take down Rentmen because they have no jurisdiction. It doesn't mean that they cannot use Rentmen to try to arrest citizens of the US who are using that website. While I'm not suggesting that everyone should just stop using Rentmen out of fear that they could be trapped by law enforcement, I do like someone's earlier post about sticking to providers with a good reputation.

I still don't understand why you think it would be difficult to put up a fake sting ad on Rentmen. Pre-internet the police used actual human beings (i.e., female cops posting as sex workers) as lures to arrest johns. You don't think there would be cops willing to have their face posted in an ad for a short time as part of a sex sting? Or, for that matter, the police couldn't just get some stock photos? The rest of the process is easy because, as I wrote earlier, despite Rentmen acting like they verify ads they really don't verify that the person running an ad is the person whose photo is displayed in the ad.

I'm way more confused by your reactions in this story. From your account, this mega hottie keeps giving you evidence that he's into you but instead you doubt him at first, then give him money as he's leaving even though he says he isn't expecting it, and then let two weeks go by before he leaves town without texting him even though he said "that was great, I had a blast, text me sometime." I understand the initial skepticism on your part, but I 100% don't understand why you wouldn't have gotten together with him over the next two weeks. Or did you reach out to him to ask to get together again and that didn't happen, but you just didn't include that detail in your story?

I have noticed the trend you mentioned, but it is not an absolute. There are many guys in my area with full frontal nudes that show both face and dick that are not private pictures, and I'm not logged into Rentmen because I don't even have an account.

I don't understand why anyone would think it would be too costly or difficult for a sting to happen via Rentmen. We all know Rentmen doesn't really verify ads; just look at the number of posts made here where people point out that the guy pictured in the ad is not the person providing the service or, even worse, just easily obtainable photos of a good looking guy used to take money from men with no intention of providing any service at all. I certainly believe that Homeland Security could run fake Rentmen ads to ensnare gay male clients if they decided to do so.

I'd prefer to go to a Korean BBQ/Hot Pot restaurant, where you order what you want from a tablet and it's an "all you can eat" for 90 minutes sort of deal. That way you can get variety and, if you are at a good restaurant, get better quality meats & veggies (not to mention the broth) than you'd find at Red Lobster.

Airbnb in good in theory, but there were a lot of abuses: 1. People removing long-term rental housing from the market by converting apartments into makeshift hotel rooms. 2. Increased traffic in apartment buildings with no doorman or other security other than locks on the doors results in increased threats to residents. 3. Depending on the sensibleness of the "host," they may create a nuisance such that the other neighbors in the building no longer have "quiet enjoyment" of their residents. That's what happened to me. My upstairs neighbors turned their small 1-bedroom apartment into a flop house where 4-6 people stayed at a time, mostly younger people visiting the city to "party." This meant that in the early evening it was always incredibly noisy in my apartment, and then around the time the bars closed I would be awakened and there would be noise for a couple of additional hours. I kid you not that I probably only got 3 hours of sleep per night during that period until they were evicted (which happened because I did some investigative work and outed them to the landlord). Speaking of which -- it takes some nerve to take someone else's investment property and turn it into your own without consent of the property owner. They were basically greedy in the extreme and did not care that their actions were causing problems for anyone else because they were probably making $2,000 per month over their rent by renting it out on a nightly basis. I have stayed in some Airbnbs, but I am not an unreasonable guest like the ones I had most of the time in the unit above mine. I don't have people over who aren't on the rental agreement. I abide by the host's rules (don't exceed the maximum number of guests). I don't make a lot of noise at any time of day, but particularly early morning or in the middle of the night.