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The label shown in the first post doesn't look like that brand. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought the azdr0710 was trying to identify the specific brand of underwear worn in the photo, not just recommendations for underwear brands that have options that look similar. There are a lot of brands that make similar looking undies.

Yes, you can hang out somewhere on Market Street to watch the parade. You can walk around the festival in the Civic Center area. I don't know who is going to be on the main stage; it's usually a mix of people talking about specific issues and some musical performances. The bars in SoMa are typically busy starting mid-afternoon. I'm sure there are specific parties happening, but I'm so old I'm checked out of it all.

If it were me, I would simply reply to their question -- e.g., I'd say "I'm interesting in hiring you for a 90 minute massage on either July 4th or 5th" or whatever it is. It seems like that's more likely to result in him actually traveling to your area, assuming he gets other interested clients, than you questioning why his travel schedule is contradictory. But that's all if you actually intend to hire him. If you're just attracted to him and trying to figure out what his "game" is, I'd just drop it. He could very well be doing what you think (gauging the market to see if it's worth a trip) or he might just be marketing himself generally (e.g., trying to get OF subscribers).

A masseur having a different price for a therapeutic massage versus an erotic massage makes sense. I even think that someone adjusting his rate depending on what the client requests makes sense. The more the client's requests veer into escort territory, the more a masseur should charge. That being said, I am put off my ads that get far too granular about this. I don't want to see a $20 additional fee for underwear off versus on, and so on. As to sandwiches costing the same, this really isn't true once you get beyond certain condiments. You typically will pay extra if you want avocado or bacon, for example, if they aren't already part of the sandwich you're ordering. Ultimately this isn't a regulated business. If a client doesn't like what the masseur has to offer at the rate requested, then he can look elsewhere. If a client wants more than the masseur wants to provide, he can decline the appointment. We all know that it isn't like every masseur (or even every escort) runs his business the same way.

Oh, I'm sure he's been discussed here or on the previous site, but I know he advertised under a different name before. Gay men who have been in San Francisco for a long time may remember his entrapment charge decades ago (as I recall, he responded to a request from someone in the East Bay and was arrested there) and also his repeated candidacy for the Board of Supervisors and some other political offices as a Libertarian. I don't want to violate any forum rules, so I won't post the name he has used for his political ambitions (but there is a Wikipedia page about him). He has been, however, transparent about his sex work when running for office so I'm not sharing any secrets here. I used to see him at the gym regularly about 20 years ago and he looked like the photos in his ad now. I have no idea what he looks like now, and I never interacted with him so I cannot say anything about his personality.

I think categorizing this as a "penalty" or "fine" is inaccurate. I haven't noticed this type of pricing, but haven't there always been some guys who try to do an "a la carte" type of pricing and they get skewered here?

Bottom line, baseball6, you aren't him. There's no reason for you to rehash what he wrote/said to you unless you just want to extend your period of distress over this. Just accept that things were not as they seemed with him and move on, not only emotionally but physically. By that I mean that I don't even think he sounds like a good escort for you since he's not providing to you want you want out of a physical interaction. The vast majority of guys I've hired have been honest, and most of the liars were more about not delivering on what was promised/advertised, not people trying to play with my emotions. You should probably keep in mind for future engagements that if you keep your boundaries clear you are less likely to fall into a trap. You are a client, they are a provider. That isn't meant to dehumanize either of you, but it's like a psychotherapist/patient relationship: the therapist is there to provide a service, not to become a part of your life outside of the therapeutic relationship. Yes, you might happen to cross paths with someone where an actual friendship develops (unlike a psychotherapist where this is unethical), but the only way to know that that has happened is if you are doing things outside of your client/escort relationship that don't require you to spend money on him.

After only reading your first post, I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and believe that maybe he did have (friendly) affection towards you, but after reading your subsequent post I have to join the chorus of others and state he's likely just playing you. Even if he isn't, you are paying him and he's not providing what he's being paid for. If I hired an escort and he blamed me for erectile difficulties and said, in effect, I don't have to let you touch me because you don't get hard immediately I would tell him to leave and wouldn't pay him (or would just give him a small amount for travel time). If you really want to see if he's your friend, stop hiring him. Only get together for time off the clock, and don't pay for his meals or entertainment or buy him any gifts. If he's your friend, he might comment on how things have changed but he will still want to be your friend.

Thoughts? I'm confused. Reading between the lines, you wrote that you had been "overly generous" before the most recent appointment and then the escort "agreed to a price" for the recent appointment, so I assume you initiated paying him less because you felt his rate (previously established by him) was too high. If that's the case and the provider definitely understood you intended to pay him less, it was wrong of him to contact you the next day to ask for more money unless something else changed such as he stayed longer than planned. Was the greater fee the equivalent of what you previously paid to him? If so and you like the guy, I would suggest at least discussing this with him to find out if there was just a misunderstanding or if he, indeed, just decided after the appointment that he wasn't okay with the lower rate he agreed to.

Typically this does happen when some random person will ask me about a provider I posted about years ago. My response used to be the same: I don't remember anything other than what I wrote in the public message forum years ago, so I have nothing to add. Sometimes that wasn't entirely true (I might remember some details that I don't want to share). A few months ago I updated my signature here to advise people not to send me a PM to ask me about escorts I've posted about before because I'm not going to have any additional information for them; I only did this because I was getting these types of PMs a lot more often. I have had forum members who have been around a while message me (and I have messages others) in response to public posts. Sometimes it's nice to get a little validation from someone else, and that's typically what these messages have been.

My sister had a lot of his records, bought the teen magazines from which she took out the full paged photos to hang on her bedroom walls. She kissed each one goodnight every night. As a young gay boy, I was into him too but had to pretend to find her whole fascination with him disgusting. The same with Donny Osmond a year or two later. I got busted when I was playing her 45 of Sweet And Innocent when I thought no one else was around but my brother suddenly came into our room. I have all of Bobby's albums on vinyl and cd and still listen to him on occasion. His biggest hits were well produced. Some of his album tracks really crack me up, like Sweet Gingerbread Man. I assume he knew he was never the greatest singer, but he was decent enough for the kind of teen pop he recorded and he certainly had the looks and charisma to make one not care when a bum note or two appeared.

While that's true, just based on your comment I assumed there were no photos in the ad other than dick shots and that there was no text indicating anything about the service being provided. Neither of those is true, so I'm puzzled why you posted what you did.

He's not my "type," and it's impossible to tell how well he can sing because his vocals are overly processed by pitch correction software (like every other pop record today -- even those from people who are great singers).

I'm not sure that I agree with that. Given that it's been about a year since his arrest, wouldn't some of the "additional names" have been released already? Yes, he probably divulged whatever contact information he had for people who were involved in his illegal activity, but if there were other well-known people involved I assume the gay porn press would have been all over those stories by now.

At my workplace when vaping was first catching on, a couple of guys who sat near me started vaping at their desks (unbeknownst to be at the time since I didn't see this happening). I started noticing a noxious chemical smell and initially thought it was just odor left behind from some cleaning fluid, but given that it came and went and came back again, that didn't make sense to me. Sometimes the pollution was so bad that my eyes would hurt. I quickly put two and two together and had management send out a clarifying email that "no smoking in the office" also included "no vaping in the office." I guess if you're used to inhaling something, you might not notice that what's being exhaled is not just water vapor. Sort of how you can smell alcohol on someone's breath if you haven't been drinking but not if you've also been imbibing.

Just a point of clarification: You are asking for posts just based on photos in ads, not necessarily verified by recent in-person meetings?

Just curious: Why is suggesting using WhatsApp indicative of a scammer?

My reaction to this story is one of sadness, and not because she left her estate to the escort. It's just that it sounds like she hadn't really spent that much time with the guy and yet she felt closer to him than anyone else. Her previous male friend who was her personal trainer was her previous heir, but he moved away so she changed her will. There isn't anything in the story to indicate the level of closeness between the niece and nephew who are trying to claim her estate, but I'm guessing there wasn't much there. I hope I have the clarity of mind to just leave whatever I have to charity if I find myself in that situation as I surely wouldn't just want everything I own to be taken by nieces and nephews I have no relationship with.

If his husband has stuck by him, I think the best outcome for him would be if his husband had separate assets and he can financially depend on his husband. Not that I think no one would support a return to a porn immediately, but I'm not sure the legal system will allow him to do that once he's released, even if he's running his own website and making his own content. It will likely be years after his release before he's truly unrestricted in his activities. In the meantime, what would he do? I assume he's got some skills outside of sex that he's developed along the way, but is anyone going to hire him?

Fortunately I'm not that old. In the 1990s I did hire some guys who ran ads in the back of the Bay Area Reporter, some of whom had no photos in their ads. One guy I hired from the B.A.R. had a photo which I scanned so I'd have a permanent record, but he later started advertising on Craigslist so I grabbed screen shots of his photos from his online ad as well which looked much better than my scan of the black and white photo on newsprint. Now that I've perused a sampling of my photos, though, I have to correct myself: I definitely don't remember many details of the encounters of most of the guys I hired only once. Unless something sticks out in my mind (i.e., my experience was either particularly bad or particularly good) I don't remember anything. I also just remembered that I've hired a number of guys on trips to Mexico and, with one exception, I don't have photos of any of them. (The one guy I have photos of was on Anthropology's website for a while as a man of the month, so I have multiple photographs of him. It's funny because those photos prove that taking a good photo isn't easy. That guy was definitely one of the hottest guys I've ever been with, but I'm not sure I could convince anyone else of that based on the photos Anthropology posted.)

With the exception of the first few guys I hired, I have photos of everyone on my hard drive since my hiring began in earnest after the internet began to be used for this. It would therefore be easy for me to count the number of men I've hired, and my memory is still decent enough that I could probably count whom I did what with. I cannot imagine doing this in line at the DMV, though, since there's no way I could remember all of these details on the 100+ men I've been with without looking at their photos to remind me.

I have no idea whether any of that regarding Austin Wolf is true, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was since he's always come across as a narcissistic jerk. I assume JayM4M had some insecurity about his body since he remained fully clothed in a lot of videos I've seen. It's too bad because I think he's actually sexy naked in the videos I've seen. Certainly not as lean as the guys he chose to film with, but what would probably have been described as an "average" physique prior to the obesity epidemic. I definitely found him closer in appearance to a lot of the models he worked with than many other men who've created their own porn studios such as Jake Cruise.

I think "passed" and "passed away" carry with it the notion that there is some sort of after life (whether that be a Christian heaven, reincarnation or something else), but it's honestly so much a part of this culture that I think a lot of people use the term even if they don't believe in an after life. It's similar to how people might say "bless you" when someone sneezes even if they're aren't religious, though I personally prefer "salud."

I've definitely walked away a few times: A few times due to gross misrepresentation of their appearance (old photos, using someone else's photos). One time when the guy, after keeping me waiting outside a bit after our appointed time, proceeded to tell his next client to arrive in a half hour as I started to undress. I told him he clearly was providing a revolving door type of service, shorting clients on time. He started arguing with me but I just left. I consider this misrepresentation because if a masseur has an hourly rate and clearly does not intend to provide an hour's worth of service, then he's misrepresenting himself. One time because they guy started discussing limits and suggesting extras as soon as he got in my door. I consider this a misrepresentation because he advertised an "erotic massage" but then upon arrival said his base rate was for both of us still clothed. He basically wanted an escort rate for a standard massage with a happy ending, so I gave him $40 for his travel time and sent him away. He wanted more, but I told him he was lucky to be getting anything from me because I viewed him as a con artist. It's too bad because he was extremely attractive.

I'm not privy to the asset portfolios of any escort, but I have the impression that some of the wiser ones who have been around for quite a while have amassed real estate and stock market holdings that certainly put them in the millionaire category. I agree that Kris Evans, in his Bel Ami days at least, was stunningly attractive. It shouldn't be that difficult for anyone to find his current Instagram. I would just post it here but I don't want to run afoul of any forum rules. Just search "Kris Evans Bel Ami real name" and the first search result will be an Instagram page under his real name. (I don't know if that's his current Instagram page, though, since I divorced myself from Zuckerberg's empire after the election.)