DWnyc

That’s great and I’m sure accurate. but as we all know the bad clients and providers can hugely impact expectations.

And here’s part of the problem - all these can mean different things to both clients and providers. I don’t think there’s a standard definition/practice to even point to expectations that are atypical.

Noble but it doesn’t track reality I’ve lost track of how many times providers have attempted to start a conversation during our meeting with “I know we talked about x,y,z …but …” Maybe clients do this as well.

I’ve experienced all this often though not with regulars i used to think overchargong providers were sending a message “I don’t want to see you again” … but I now realize the profession is full of those who don’t see the big / longterm picture and an extra $50-$100 is worth more to them than potentially thousands lost in future donations And rookie mistake: never forget that a gift horse is usually more expansive than if you actually wanted and ordered it before the session. so a free inclusion of a Buddy or extra time etc can be a costly gift to accept.

I hope he is rewarded for paying you this compliment 😉

The provider tone is kind of “i can see through your deception and I’ll demonstrate it by asking questions that are almost rhetorical” nothing here generally that’s newsworthy though surely …

Was checking out Boston since I’m there in a couple of weeks … and I see the provider in question has reincarnated again https://rentmen.eu/NextDoorHuge Have never met him as mentioned before, but I’m seriously intrigued as to why these profile changes every couple of weeks/ months. And it looks like “fresh start” rather than just editing the branding. Means you look like a newbie (this profile says member since Feb 1st) with few reviews (zero in this case and I remember seeing several for a previous profile).

More than one provider has told me they like having a roommate present or nearby for security especially when with a first time client. I’ve always suspected some disclose beforehand to dangle a potential add-on to be paid for - on one occasion (late at night, pouring with rain etc) after the provider had exhausted all attempts to get me to contribute towards his friends time since he had no plans of his own that night - he was thrown in for free (studio apartment, nowhere for him to go apparently) - he didn’t really add anything and was a distraction mostly

It was a surprise to me the first time a provider came as i always thought they’d be relieved to be able to save it for the next client. I didn’t know about Trimix etc at the time. I’ve had providers even act resentful if I didn’t allow them the opportunity or help them along the way (again a surprise, since I’ve always assumed providers don’t really get turned on by clients). So far so good, surprisingly hot. The one area I have a problem with all this is when providers have sometimes used the “I need to get off” motif to extend time beyond what has been agreed - which would be fine (assuming I had the time … the assumption is always providers’ time is so valuable and clients abuse this) except it also often comes with a price tag. If a provider needs to come (and some have said they prefer to, allows them a clean break mentally and physically to whatever they have going on after a client leaves) then they should either plan the events accordingly within the agreed time, or so whatever is needed on their “own” time, with or without the client.

Rather, don’t get caught faking or make it obvious. Isn’t most of the entire experience of client provider interaction fake (on the provider end surely)? The physical output aside, which I guess can’t be faked, a grand performance by a skilled performer if requested should be available.

I’ve often suspected an inverse correlation between some client virtue signaling on here when describing their views / behavior … and their reality

I’m pretty sure many providers fake … if nothing else to try and end the session! Some clients may buy the act that they were so hot and the totally inexperienced guy they were with was waiting for the right moment with the right person vut couldn’t control himself … 😜 one told me he keeps this colored lube nearby so he can even make it seem like the client has cum without realizing - again in order to speed things up … and that’s the providers cue to run into the shower to reset the dynamic

Not necessarily - could be a lapse in them following the regimen. I do wonder when I see ads or hookup posts from those who boast about their stamina to party all weekend if they kept up with their mess during that time.

I know a couple of providers who are now positive but weren’t when I first met them - and I wonder if some clients (for whom the info is important) file away a historic answer and freeze it as still accurete. I’ve heard more than once that those negative and on prep sometimes feel they will miss out on revenue (if providers) and the opportunity to hook up (regular sites) if they list that as it seems exclusionary, preachy etc to those positive.

Perhaps a related question, are bad reviews the main or only reason providers change their profiles? Even with fake ages there’s not much to change or try to eradicate from client memory..

I’ve been told filming is now pretty standard when young kids hookup - and you see it in amateur porn where someone is holding a phone in their hand throughout. Increasingly I find in the hookup world people offering to show me footage of them with others. One guy even said something like it’s now assumed ok unless you say it’s not. Might not be prevalent but more common than it used to be and evolving technology makes it easier.

I don’t write reviews unless I’m genuinely super happy. Or super unhappy, and rarely in those cases, mainly as unless there is anything dangerous to others, I want to break ties and be done with it. The reviews clearly mean something as the follow up from providers afterward (either “please leave a review” or “please take down or edit your review”) can get invasive. And I still find it amusing that many providers just don’t seem to get that I may have had a less than perfect experience. More than one supposedly established and well-regarded provider has offered men a free session if I wrote a positive review or took down something that wasn’t perfect.

I think unless mistaken this is a provider with frequent name changes including Tyler Dickson Tall White Hung bigwhitecock tylerontop as well as some others I’ve forgotten - unusually including “white” or “Penis” (like Big TrophyPenis etc (For the record I’ve never met him but found the frequent profile resets interesting)

I’ve had providers ask (for their marketing and their channels) - when I’ve said no some have even said”what if I guarantee your face won’t be visible …” I’ve never asked for it. One provider offered to take pictures or video on my phone for my use saying some liked to keep momentos I’ve asked re cameras position on bed posts, on desks in the providers room, on the ceiling etc if filming is going on - and always been told no / or a vague answer about for security sometimes / yes / not with you but sometimes etc. given the size of security cameras now I wouldn’t be surprised if I’ve been filmed many times not just with providers but with general hookups. I take comfort in my unattractive ordinariness and assume My privacy is not at risk, as well as the strict laws that would get someone in trouble for filming and using something of this nature without consent.

As a rule no.

I’m sure I’ve seen ads basically saying that (discount if you’re “hot”). I’m pretty sure there are some providers who won’t turn anyone away but give them less than stellar service if they are not attracted to them or have some feature they find problematic - age, body type, race, “masc vs femme” etc One provider shared w me once that he had some tricks if he’s bored or really not into a client - the most outrageous of which was pretending they’re not clean down there … as he described it, that typically sends them into deep embarrassment, they run to the bathroom, by the time they come out they’re desperate to leave even if all that hasn’t used up the remaining time. Yes I’d rather have a provider reject me before meeting if it can lead to that but I’d rather this wasn’t an issue in what’s supposed to be different from regular hooking up.

No because there will be enough people including in this forum validating the ask saying it’s a providers right etc

Or staying put where you are and letting the market play out. I’ve never seen so much discounting from providers (with me never asking) as I have over the past year.

As often discussed, this is one of the most capitalist market segments. So if providers want to raise rates - nothing to stop them. They can determine over time if it’s working. Prices do NOT rise for everything in inflationary times, they can even come down even for luxuries, and prices don’t move consistently. It’s why the wise ones call it a “basket” when calculating inflation.

Good to know for my ego, I may have to revisit like 90% of my double guessing from mostly non provider experiences! 😊