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Nathan seems the kinder gentler personality who’s more human and fun. I’d book NYC A-A for practice every so often on how to hold on to Nathan. Wouldn’t want more time with him after the session ended 😉

I’ve heard providers describe how they charge certain clients more or less based on the Robin Hood principle. Or because someone was rude or particularly nice in booking. I’ve not heard it expressed as tied to the client’s perceived looks. I did have a provider once say when i assumed we were both in the heat of the moment “you’re so hot, I should be paying * you * …” and of course I didn’t take him literally and thought it odd that would even be referenced as it’s almost taboo to do so at any time during a session - and I replied “oh, really …?” - and he broke character and reminded me (though I didn’t need it) “we’re just acting, honey, remember?” - did kill the mood a little but not the fee 😉

Come now would we have anything to discuss on here if we censored topics covered before? 😉

As client or provider?

I think it’s rooted in their culture and history - many (but not all) Latin countries tend to have race as a much less important marker than the rest of the world - and so that influences individual “preferences” as local media less likely to use race as a criteria for pushing what is “hot”. I concur with the observation that the demographic as a whole Is very open on this type of issue.

Unless describing yourself as a passionate lover gives away your identity I think you’ll be fine

Same applies to the American citizen providers living in those places (several are in nyc on RM).

I know a few that claim they do (online profiles) but don’t in reality (discussions in real life). Same with some people (including providers) representing their status one way online and disclosing something different in conversation. as others say, take care of of yourself and behave based on your own criteria and situation, not what someone tells you about themselves the provider using protection with you could be more about his wish to protect you than a comment on his behavior at other times

And I’ve never paid a deposit apart from the one time I did. I doubt I ever will in the current legal and practical realities. The message is simple - neither you nor many clients on here appear to be moved by the perspectives offered on this matter contrary to our existing positions. Ive seen several providers hold some very rigid positions - eg you on deposits, others on requiring “real” cellphone numbers and only having iPhones, requiring clients to send photos before confirmation, not booking the same day or only booking the same day etc - and it’s everyone’s right to set their rules. Presumably they persist because it works for them better than alternatives, and they are comfortable with supporting data.

Once met a visiting provider in nyc who surprisingly was hosting at an apartment. he had an air Mattress in a tiny living room ( carved out of a studio) and his host was a provider I randomly turned down earlier (without knowing their connection) … because he said “my friend and his bf are visiting and may be here” and also tried to upsell a double / triple deal. The porn version of this story has a group scene with the host, his bf, my providers bf, the provider, and me all on the air mattress. The reality show has a lot of passive aggressive coming and going and slammed doors in the rest of the tiny apartment - they had all worked out it was me speaking to both providers during the day. My provider even asked me to give the donation to the host as he owed him “rent money” so there was this symbolic game they made me play of ultimately paying the provider I turned down. My other ridiculous NY accommodation story had me going to the restroom about 40 mins into a session and being warned “oh my roommate is in there, it’s raining so he stayed indoors … just ignore hkm”

When some clients have repeatedly posted here “no deposits, ever” and their reasoning, that doesn’t appear to change your mind on the matter. Just sayin’ …

Is the real question here in providing feedback on how to communicate (with clients) the the provider? Not enough info here. but I’d say from examples he needs to let the clients vibe come through more clearly before he asserts his interpretation and tone which might come across as “don’t waste my time” but is more likely “I don’t understand …” think of one party speaking porn movie dialog to someone who is taking everything literally and when he does that it doesn’t make sense so he asks for clarification and it kills the mood. that being said if the mood is free sexting that’s no good either.

Better that than being surprised when a glass is completely empty The hobby is full of risk for both clients and providers - physical, financial and even mental …isn’t it better to be prepared for (and take precautions for) all eventualities?

Bait and switch is never good for trust and smooth interaction in any context. Even if unintended - humans can and do change their minds - as you say there is a need for a discussion and people shouldn’t then complain about that being a mood killer if they triggered it.

That’s great and I’m sure accurate. but as we all know the bad clients and providers can hugely impact expectations.

And here’s part of the problem - all these can mean different things to both clients and providers. I don’t think there’s a standard definition/practice to even point to expectations that are atypical.

Noble but it doesn’t track reality I’ve lost track of how many times providers have attempted to start a conversation during our meeting with “I know we talked about x,y,z …but …” Maybe clients do this as well.

I’ve experienced all this often though not with regulars i used to think overchargong providers were sending a message “I don’t want to see you again” … but I now realize the profession is full of those who don’t see the big / longterm picture and an extra $50-$100 is worth more to them than potentially thousands lost in future donations And rookie mistake: never forget that a gift horse is usually more expansive than if you actually wanted and ordered it before the session. so a free inclusion of a Buddy or extra time etc can be a costly gift to accept.

I hope he is rewarded for paying you this compliment 😉

The provider tone is kind of “i can see through your deception and I’ll demonstrate it by asking questions that are almost rhetorical” nothing here generally that’s newsworthy though surely …

Was checking out Boston since I’m there in a couple of weeks … and I see the provider in question has reincarnated again https://rentmen.eu/NextDoorHuge Have never met him as mentioned before, but I’m seriously intrigued as to why these profile changes every couple of weeks/ months. And it looks like “fresh start” rather than just editing the branding. Means you look like a newbie (this profile says member since Feb 1st) with few reviews (zero in this case and I remember seeing several for a previous profile).

More than one provider has told me they like having a roommate present or nearby for security especially when with a first time client. I’ve always suspected some disclose beforehand to dangle a potential add-on to be paid for - on one occasion (late at night, pouring with rain etc) after the provider had exhausted all attempts to get me to contribute towards his friends time since he had no plans of his own that night - he was thrown in for free (studio apartment, nowhere for him to go apparently) - he didn’t really add anything and was a distraction mostly

It was a surprise to me the first time a provider came as i always thought they’d be relieved to be able to save it for the next client. I didn’t know about Trimix etc at the time. I’ve had providers even act resentful if I didn’t allow them the opportunity or help them along the way (again a surprise, since I’ve always assumed providers don’t really get turned on by clients). So far so good, surprisingly hot. The one area I have a problem with all this is when providers have sometimes used the “I need to get off” motif to extend time beyond what has been agreed - which would be fine (assuming I had the time … the assumption is always providers’ time is so valuable and clients abuse this) except it also often comes with a price tag. If a provider needs to come (and some have said they prefer to, allows them a clean break mentally and physically to whatever they have going on after a client leaves) then they should either plan the events accordingly within the agreed time, or so whatever is needed on their “own” time, with or without the client.

Rather, don’t get caught faking or make it obvious. Isn’t most of the entire experience of client provider interaction fake (on the provider end surely)? The physical output aside, which I guess can’t be faked, a grand performance by a skilled performer if requested should be available.

I’ve often suspected an inverse correlation between some client virtue signaling on here when describing their views / behavior … and their reality