Simon Suraci

Violence is never the answer, never justified. I wonder, however, how profoundly our current systems have failed us that assassinations prove to be more productive in drawing attention to important issues.

I’m laughing out loud after spending a solid minute considering what, if anything could possibly scare him away. Or any of his personas/accounts, really. Can I phone a friend? Love you, Jarrod. At least you’re consistent, no matter who you’re posting as. We can always count on your complaining to spark up a lively and entertaining, if unproductive, exchange!

To be clear, we don’t need to know your real identity. Your concern is valid and reasonable. Most clients are fine. A minority of really bad actors cause us so much grief and that’s who we want so badly to avoid. For some providers, knowing your real identity puts their concerns at ease because they can check it and make sure you’re not a bad guy. That’s where it stops. They are not out to call you by your real name in public or out you to your family or anything like that. You will hear about this kind of thing happening on the forums because it’s sensational and plays into your fears, your fight or flight response. The vast majority of providers would never do something to compromise you or your identity in any way. Our livelihoods depend on maintaining a good reputation. Such behavior would damage a provider’s reputation irreparably. The only thing we care about is if you’re safe, reliable, and respectful in your business dealings. I’m thinking of a smaller cadre of bad actor clients. This client makes efforts to conceal his identity in hopes of continuing to mistreat providers while avoiding detection. We do our best to warn one another of the bad guys, but when they keep deliberately changing their numbers or other contact method, it’s more difficult for us to screen them out. Bad actors: hire services and refuse to pay ask endless questions and never book contact us for amusement send us harassing messages no-show for their appointments cancel last minute and rebook their appointment multiple times in a row haggle/low-ball us stalk us lack hygiene and refuse to correct it use violence or threaten violence refuse to take responsibility for their own sexual health …among other bad behaviors

It goes both ways. No two providers are exactly the same. There is no standard. I can’t represent all others. Sometimes I contact providers and the messages don’t go through because they are using a burner app that censors explicit content. They don’t get the message so they think I ghosted them after exchanging initial uncensored messages. Meanwhile I think the same about them ghosting me, until I confirm they didn’t get the message and reword the message and send it again so that it will go through.

Some escorts will only reply to real numbers with (or without) information connected to the number confirming someone’s identity. Burner numbers and VoIP numbers do not make the cut. It signals that you have something to hide. This is one way to vet, although it’s a very wide net to cast. You can only see a fraction of good, legitimate clients through this method. To some extent, numbers not specifically associated with an apple iPhone mobile device an escort might exclude, especially younger escorts. Think blue bubble vs green. This honestly makes no sense to me, but some guys operate this way. I don’t take these approaches myself, and disagree that anyone should take them. I’m just saying it happens. What happened to you above may have nothing to do with negative comments on a forum or an app. It could possibly be due solely to the fact that you used a VoIP and for any number of the above reasons the escort you contacted screened you out. We literally live and die by the clients we see and the risks we accept when we choose to see a new person knowing very little information about them. We screen through various methods, as we should. You can’t fault us for that. The particulars of how we go about it are more nuanced. The process varies widely from guy to guy. By the way, I believe some level of client privacy, anonymity, and discretion is a reasonable expectation. Not every escort is a model of good professional conduct. Therefore clients need to measure their risk tolerance in seeing different providers and about what they share and how much they share. Risk goes both ways in hiring. Neither party wants to be harmed by the other.

First rule of fight club is to not talk about fight club. Sharing information like this with clients is a no-no. It defeats the whole purpose of having private escort forums. There is no need for the escort to share the types of information you mention here. What matters is personal safety, avoiding scams, violence, stalkers, no-showers, and unserious clients. Repeat offenders of any of these we need to know about to help us avoid wasting our time and minimize risk. Being cheap (which is only an opinion, not a “fact”), is not a compelling thing to share about a client. Refusing to pay for services rendered is a valid issue to discuss. While cheap clients may be annoying, clients are annoying in many other ways that don’t merit discussion. That’s just part of the job. Pros can handle all kinds of quirks and challenges clients present. The good guys - the providers worth your time and money - will recognize the comments for what they are and not take them seriously. I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Immature escorts whine and complain and make fun of clients over frivolous things and share sensitive personal information in a semi-public setting like a restricted access online forum. This is unprofessional behavior. Some of the younger guys will make these mistakes. Clients often want the looks of a 20 something but expect the maturity level and experience of a 30, 40, or 50 something. Those two groups have very little overlap on a Venn diagram.

^ I can’t emphasize your point enough. Just because there is no info on a provider here doesn’t mean they are bad or good. It just means nobody has taken the time to go out of their way to write something publicly about a particular provider on this specific platform. Very few of you clients actually know of it and use the site with any frequency. Think of commentary here like the tip of an iceberg. For every one mention on here, that provider has seen at least hundreds of other clients. For every one of my RentMasseur reviews, for instance, I have seen at least many dozens, if not hundreds of other clients between one review and the next. The people seeing a provider and not reviewing could all be stellar experiences, or they could be more mixed. You never know. All you see is the tip of that iceberg. I hire massages from time to time and benefit quite a bit from commentary here. I have a pretty good read on things being a masseur myself, so I don’t put too much stock in any one comment or member. I rely on my intuition more, but consistent good comments inspire me to try someone I had never considered or heard of before. It can sway me when I’m on the fence too. I’ve spent more time in the deli section lately as a client agent doing the work of vetting and arranging new providers for clients. I try to steer clients toward the professionals with a positive track record here along with following my own gut instincts, which are usually right. The guys with no commentary have been a total toss-up. More often than not, a client will insist against my best intuition to hire a guy and he proves to be a disappointment. As clients trust my judgment more and more, they consider my opinion more valuable, and I’m more like a veto vote. With that said, you won’t find everyone mentioned here. Plenty of CoM members have hired guys that I’ve hired but I never heard a peep about those providers from them here until after the fact when I mention them. Not every CoM client is taking the time to contribute. Newbie providers as well as experienced professionals may lack mention here, either by chance or by design. Some providers know about the site and have asked for their threads to be taken down over the years. So often we see a repeated “bump” in a provider thread containing no info because nobody is willing to risk time and money on a provider without a track record here. This forum is a give and take. Count the number of times you avoided a bad hire or had a great experience with a good hire because of your research on CoM. Now count how many times you contributed to threads based on your experience, especially when you were the first to “take the plunge” and share about it. If that second number is vanishingly small (or zero) compared to the first number, you should reconsider your expectations and use of the site. It only works when we all make an effort to contribute. Don’t just take. Give. Same goes for the members who “bump” dozens of times for every one time they contribute. You are doing a lot of asking, and not a lot of answering. The site will serve everyone better when more of us take time to contribute. You don’t need to have a binary horrible / amazing experience to write useful commentary. Sometimes middle of the road, “adequate”, “met my expectations” kinds of comments can help too. These create some sense of safety for other clients to try a provider and perhaps have better experiences than yours. Not everyone is going to have the best experience of their life with a given provider every time they meet him. That doesn’t make for a bad provider, either. It’s just realistic. Nor does a provider have to rob or scam you to be on the worse end of the spectrum. They could go through the motions and do on paper everything you could expect they were supposed to do, and still not be that good of a provider because his focus was elsewhere or he made you feel uncomfortable or some other less tangible, objective thing. This work is not easy. Not everyone is good at it. Not every provider can knock it out of the park every single time. Experiences vary, even from one meeting to the next with the same client.

This restaurant should really consider a re-brand. None of the things I want to associate together.

I said my peace. I’ll move on, back to the topic at hand. As @ReynST mentioned, a booking system helps a lot for incall massages. It’s really easy for clients to view my availability and book their own appointments whenever they want. They can do it in the middle of the night when I wouldn’t be responding to texts. Everything is automated, so the client gets the info they need and I get a notification. I send a quick confirmation message too whenever I have a free moment and that’s that. Easy. With my booking system, clients don’t have to text me every time if they don’t want to, but by and large texting is still the most popular way for new and existing clients to book appointments. Regulars already know me, so they aren’t asking a bunch of the typical new client questions about services, cost, and location. Since all they need to know is my availability, the booking system is convenient for them. Most regulars still text though. Booking systems are underrated and underused. Where booking systems tend to fall short: 1. Outcall appointments. The client really needs to tell me where and when they want their massage for me to estimate travel time, factoring in traffic and appropriate padding time on the front and back ends. Clients do not want to plug in so much specific information. My app is not sophisticated enough yet to do this for me either. Sometimes I make a judgement call based on distance and where I will be for work or personal life before and after their proposed appointment. For example, doing an outcall on my way home or on my way to work vs a far-flung outcall in the middle of the day that would put me in bad traffic on the way back to the studio. 2. Escort services. The client doesn’t know what I have going on, so on paper it may look like I am available at such-and-such a time, but I may not be able to fulfill all of their requests without some kind of communication first. I would need some specifics to be able to prepare, like maybe I need to bring toys or gear, or prep to bottom, or make sure I am optimally ready to top. Maybe I have another client after them that would not be a good idea to do back-to-back. Lots of reasons. Text seems to still be best for escort services, although I will still book it in my system after the fact. 3. Last minute requests. Sometimes I am at the studio available to take a client right away. Other times I may be at home, at the gym, fulfilling an outcall, or other. The client will see availability two hours ahead of whatever time they are viewing their screen. That gives them the chance to book automatically while giving me sufficient notice to get from wherever I am back to the studio and prep the space before they arrive. This wouldn’t work for the client requesting something within the hour. In that case, text is best, but no guarantees I can respond. I might be working or otherwise unable to text back right away. There is no perfect system for every provider or every client. Booking systems are a great underused tool though. They make life so much easier for everyone when clients use them. Take advantage of whatever tools you can to streamline your process. If you primarily do incall massages, I highly recommend investing in a booking system.

“It’s not like I was trying to hide or cover anything up, otherwise I would have taken down my signature already.” I was referring to Ethan Woods’ signature. I am wondering what Ethan has to hide. “I have the option to change my screenname if I want to, for whatever reason I want to.” Yes, you do. Nothing wrong with that. It was confusing reading threads with your previous screen name. I figured it would help others that were similarly confused. “And who are you calling a sneaky little fucker?” Ethan Woods. That’s who I am calling a sneaky little focker. Unless you and he are the same person. Ethan Woods and other new posters in the past tend to agree with you and have similar writing styles. You’re not pulling the wool over very many eyes. “You need to check yourself because, because you’re going to end up on the wrong side of me: and that’s the bad side you don’t want to get on. So don’t even try it, Mister.” Jarrod, there is no right side of you. You’re toxic. Creating new profiles just to get someone to agree with your ideas is desperate behavior. You’re only digging a deeper hole for yourself. “If you don’t like what I have to say here, go on about your business. I’m not here to have squabbles with other escorts. I was not addressing you anywhere here, so don’t try to bait me into a conflict that’s not needed. You’ve already did it once in another one of my threads, so please…do you.” I am doing me. You’re doing Ethan Woods. I thought members should know.

Welcome @Ethan Woods. Would you mind posting a link to your ad(s) in your signature? I’m sure everyone is eager to get to know you, especially @TallMuscl37 Something tells me your home market is a lot closer to his than anyone realizes just yet. Perhaps you will change hearts and minds together. Heads up to help everyone avoid confusion: @Jarrod_Uncut updated his handle to @TallMuscl37

Thanks. Helped me dodge a bullet.

UPDATE I have been chatting with Scott about a group session and he told me he is disabling his RentMen profile soon because of the election. He didn’t elaborate, but I assume his concerns are to do with the direction the new administration is expected to take with regard to enforcing laws pertaining to sex work, human trafficking, and related issues. No comment on politics here. I just figured you might all like to have some screen caps to reference for when you can’t find him on RentMen anymore. He is still working and available through his phone number, just not advertising in the usual places any more once he takes down his ad. I’m not posting his phone number as I believe that would violate the site rules, but you can get his number while his ad is still up. https://media01.rent.men/public/photos/big/165/642307_1701572429_2tdu2mztx8.jpg https://media.invisioncic.com/k323430/monthly_2024_11/IMG_0412.jpeg.3cb491cdc36e926df6b428b537030126.jpeghttps://media.invisioncic.com/k323430/monthly_2024_11/IMG_0414.jpeg.e3b1b55875d765026f5e9ac9ad305bb2.jpeghttps://media.invisioncic.com/k323430/monthly_2024_11/IMG_0415.jpeg.5f530229a802ca8bf0bcbab62b887287.jpeghttps://media.invisioncic.com/k323430/monthly_2024_11/IMG_0416.jpeg.3a207f31339da3fff0cdb731dd7accec.jpeg

Of course I would! I want my clients to feel valued and cared for. I wouldn’t be taking that many escort clients in a day anyway. If I can’t offer quality service, I won’t take the appointment, period. The donut meme upthread is funny, but frankly it’s a myth. I’m not having sex with every client, and of those, chances are I’m topping. Honestly it’s mostly massage, and that’s my strong point. I’m great at sex, but you have way hotter options around in NYC for sex and fewer men who can give a high quality massage. That’s where I shine. Delivering a quality experience is very important to me, whether for massage or escorting. That’s why I tap out at 5 or 6 massages in a day, and of those appointments, only one or two, if any, would be escort clients. Plus I am washing my hands up to the elbows like a medical professional and/or showering between clients. Hygiene is not the issue here, nor my energy level. I have quite a bit of stamina but I know myself well enough to notice my massage quality goes down after 6 clients. That’s why I cap my daily max and stop taking clients. I deliver quality. So no, whatever you have in your heads about being the sixth client of the day probably isn’t a fair or accurate picture of what’s actually happening when I travel. I do a good job. I’m responsible. I can’t say that for your other hires, but I can confidently say this about the way I operate.

To clarify, you mean providers who have already taken one or more loads in their ass not long before they start an appointment with a client, correct? Or moreso in general for hookups? In my mind, they are two different things, with different norms and expectations around each. In my experience clients are divided on this. The minority really love the idea of a guy being pre-loaded, the more cum (volume) and the greater number of loads, the better. The majority are grossed out by the thought, either from a risk management standpoint or just generally the idea of their man not being “clean”, or being someone’s leftovers or sloppy seconds/thirds/etc. No judgment from me. I’ve entertained the whole spectrum as a top and as a bottom and get into it all from clean and virginal to slutty and multi-loaded. Cum is the best lube IMHO. Default scenario is for me to be squeaky clean, or if I’m topping for the client to not have any activity before meeting me. It would be quite unusual for a client to request me be pre-loaded or for the client to be pre-loaded, but I know this is a thing. I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts and see if my pulse on client sentiments is correct or off. I imagine most of you will not be into it, but a few will really like it. I’m guessing some won’t be bold enough to share their preferences in favor of raunch here so openly because they will probably experience some level of disgust or judgement from other members. Please everyone try not to yuk others’ yums. It’s ok to like raunchy things, and it’s ok to not like them. Neither is right or wrong. In a sex positive place like this forum, there’s plenty of space to celebrate the whole spectrum of interests. I hope ya’ll respect that space and one another on this thread.

Me too!

Care to share?!

Same here.

Bump. One of my clients is interested in hiring him for a group. Any information besides speculation about age and photo upload dates? Like…stuff that matters way more to the overall experience than if he’s 30 something or 40 something. Who cares! As long as he looks reasonably similar in person to the way he advertises… Is he reliable? Does he perform well with his clients? Charm? Personality?

One of my clients hired him for a group. I tried to steer him away from this guy because I knew something was not right, first with the ad and then once I started communicating with him. My client insisted, but then in person my client was sorely disappointed and asked him to leave before our time was up (and paid him). I didn’t even find this thread until after the fact, but the stuff you guys bring up were all red flags to me too. Yes, there is certainly some serious exaggeration going on in his photos. He’s a normal looking guy in person. Not a bodybuilder type, and not as striking as his pics suggest. Not a bad looking guy, but definitely not as advertised. Lower your expectations a few notches. He does not speak English well enough to have a conversation in person. I don’t fault him for that, but it did make things quite difficult. That confirmed my suspicions when leading up to the meeting his only responses were “yes”, “ok”, and a number indicating his rate. Never mind the language barrier, he wasn’t very interested in pleasing the client. He went to the bedroom and laid on the bed alone while the rest of the group was socializing over a drink in the living room. When we did get to the bedroom, he kind of just…laid there. We did things to him, but he was not very engaged with the client. It would have been a better group session without him, to be honest. I wish the guy well. Photos aside, I don’t think this is the right career for him. Save your pennies, boys, for the many other worthwhile men out there.

^ I second this. I just had a group session with Joe. He’s charming, professional, intuitive, and handsome. He looks better in person than his photos even though they are not that recent. I recommend. He’s a keeper! Communication was effortless. I can tell he really cares about making the session special for the client. He was adaptable, generous, engaged and accommodating all the way through. Good kisser. Nice genuine smile. Everything below the belt is something y’all will enjoy! He’s versatile, so it’s not just for looks. Huge plus. He makes you feel immediately comfortable and endeared to him. He has a positive presence that makes you just feel really good. A man after my own heart, really. I wish he were more available. I have other clients hiring groups to invite him to, but his day job work keeps him pretty busy and traveling somewhat frequently. He mentioned he does massage as well. Will have to trade and get back on that aspect. This won’t be the last I see of Joe. My client is already planning a threesome with us two after Thanksgiving. Whatever you might make of Joe’s photos positive or negative, look past that. He’s a worthwhile hire. Good providers do their job well and have the right temperament for this work, and those qualities often won’t come across in photos. It manifests immediately in person, though and that’s the difference between some hot guy on the street and a true professional worth your time.

^Ditto. ^Ditto. I rarely fly for new clients. Too risky. For trusted regulars, I buy my own tickets, pay my own expenses, and summarize my costs for the client to then reimburse me at the end of the trip in addition to my fee. This works out best for everyone.

I finally got to experience Reyn’s massage this week. We did a trade at our respective studios to sample each other’s work. Now I get why we have at least a few clients in common. WOW! He is talented. I felt amazing afterward. He’s one of the few to massage my rhomboids with appropriate pressure, and in a targeted fashion after I requested it. That was a highlight because barely anyone gets it when I ask. The rest was all excellent work too. He is creative, effective, balanced, detail oriented, and focused in his unique routine. Adding Reyn to my list to refer clients to him. Reyn is a quiet guy. It comes across as shy or introverted but I don’t think so. He gives the best hugs. By the way, he’s a really attractive guy! I don’t prioritize that aspect like many of you do when seeking out massage therapy, but I’ll say for your sakes he is a fit and fine looking man all around. I won’t discuss sensual stuff here or by DM; please contact him directly if that is important to you. He offers options on his RentMasseur blog.

I’m having a hard time getting a hold of the guy. I texted him a couple days ago and he said he’s interested. I confirmed he uses a burner app so some of the messages do not go through, depending on the content. It seems explicit content or certain types of content the app will not deliver to him. Some of the other guys I’ve contacted mentioned the burner app issue. I have no idea my message was blocked, so it seems like they’re ignoring me, and they are probably put off when the next message they see from me is something along the lines of “Just following up on my last message with my client wishlist items. Are you still interested?” It’s been hit or miss. I tried messaging on RentMen Messenger as an alternative. Hopefully he gets back. I’d hate to miss out on bringing him in for a hot group session because of the technological glitch. Seems a shame he loses confidence or interest because his own messaging app won’t receive messages containing content one might commonly discuss with an escort. It’s like asking Home Depot for a hammer and they don’t get the memo because anything regarding tools is blocked. Different tools we are discussing here, of course…

I met Bruno for a group session on Sunday. He’s a big tall beefy muscle guy for sure. He walks like he just got off a long horse ride with those large leg muscles. His pics are more flattering than in person, more trim in the pics, but if muscle is what you like, I’m sure you will not be disappointed. Hairy daddy type and attitude. He’s got a heavy Czech accent. He said he’s lived in the US for many years, at least 10 from what I gathered in conversation, Florida and traveled all over. Bruno ignored not one but literally all the instructions I gave him, which he agreed to ahead of confirming the appointment. The client was disappointed. Not with how he looked or performed per se, but he literally did nothing on the list the client wanted him to do, other than participate in the escort group play. Bummer. Be careful with this one. If you have specifics in mind, you might not be getting them. He will do his thing, but maybe not entirely on your terms. It might be a case of miscommunication, like him not understanding and not asking questions ahead, but whatever the case be sure to be very clear about what you want. Maybe a simple vanilla scene with him topping and very little other direction might be easiest for everyone involved. Good luck to everyone considering hiring him. We enjoyed Bruno despite everything.