Simon Suraci

I offer to schedule free phone and video consultations for clients seriously considering hiring me. I try to make it clear that we’re not having phone sex or a nude jerk-off cam show on the house. These calls are useful and efficient for me to get a feel for what the client wants and mostly for the client to verify I’m a good fit for their needs. Consultations inspire confidence and mutual trust. As long as the client is respectful toward me and the boundaries of this type of call, everything works out pretty well. I don’t particularly care what the client sounds like or looks like, but it’s nice to establish some rapports. Chemistry and mutual understanding matter more.

Brant mentioned he is on these apps. PM me if you have questions about him.

I know Brant. We now offer 4-hand massage services together, we’ve traded massages and I hired him years ago for massage as well. PM me for any questions.

A few of my clients prefer me sweaty and musky. Some really get off on sniffing my pits. It’s not that uncommon or weird to me. I accommodate as best I can. The more notice the better.

I stayed for a few days at Island House last year, working trip, massage only. I was busy the entire time. Thing is, the trip cost so much between flights and lodging that I essentially broke even and wasted a few days neither vacationing nor turning much of a profit. The main pool and bar were fun to hang around though! Live and learn.

If anyone tries the Holy Services, please do let me know how it goes. Let’s hope if there is a priest involved, that it’s only consensual role play.

Yes

lol you picked the perfect Angelica Huston meme to tempt me, but… I won’t name names. I don’t want to be another target for his crazy. If he comes up in a thread, I may share privately to warn a client considering hiring him.

I know of one provider who’s been around for a couple decades with several hundred 5-star reviews on RentMen. The length of time makes sense why he would have gathered so many, but when I inquired here on CoM about him, I learned in private messages that he is known to badger his clients into leaving positive reviews, and he harasses or even threatens them until they leave one (or remove a bad one). Presumably he gets RM to remove the bad ones anyway, perhaps anything less than 5-stars. Nothing surprising here, but you would never be able to tell on the surface if he’s just really well regarded in the industry or if he is taking extreme measures to manufacture and maintain his reputation. It will catch up to him eventually. It always does. Ask here for references and verifications both publicly and privately. What may not show up in public reviews will likely surface here. Reviews are just the tip of the iceberg. For every one good review, I have dozens of client appointments that went really well and in person the clients sing my praises, but you will never see their feedback in a review.

^YES. This. It’s really helpful to post info to your profile. It shows you are serious. You don’t need to post a photo or stats but those are nice and do give a sense that you are more serious. The basics of what you’re looking for are the most helpful. You may want different things at different times, with different providers, so that only goes so far. Be clear about what you want when you contact your provider. Post your “intos” if you tend to have the same or similar range of interests in most of your encounters. For example, your kinks or fetishes, or kissing is really important to you, you like longer sessions with a dinner date, or you want to be dominated, or you are a strict bareback top, or what have you. The more you share, the more we get a sense of what you want, and we use that info to better serve you.

lol I have gags too. I like it when my clients express their pleasure verbally. Moaning, groaning, whimpering, begging, shouting. It’s all good. My place is very private and I have no concerns about my neighbors. That’s one of many reasons I choose to rent a detached house for my studio space. I get more turned on knowing my client is thoroughly enjoying himself, by whatever signals he sends me, and it becomes a feedback loop. I believe we all enjoy our physical sensations more when we express ourselves verbally. Not just in sex, but especially in sex.

^I love this. It’s my go-to approach unless the client indicates he wants something different, either verbally or non-verbally. I’m constantly reading his needs. And no, it’s not too much to expect or ask.

I agree. I chatted with him in PS last month. He and his client were staying a couple doors down. He’s sexy! 😉

Very good. You’re sending a photo and/or stats for the right reasons, then.

I had an overnight recently for a trusted longtime client. He flew in around 9:30pm and I picked him up at the airport. I arranged for a third to join us for about an hour to start. We got the third off to the client’s satisfaction and he left. Then the client and I f*cked like rabbits into the wee hours, taking a break for some massage time between sessions, and had a long, hot (in every sense) shower together. We finally went to sleep at 3am and we had to get up at 5am so I could drop him back off at the airport for his early morning flight. It was a cuddly 2-hr nap, really. I woke him up by giving him oral to completion and served him a continental breakfast, including organic duck eggs from my farm. He was happy. The crazy travel schedule was his idea, by the way, to squeeze between his other life and work obligations. I took the day off to recover. I slept from late morning into the mid afternoon and went to bed at my normal bedtime later that night. I turned down clients. That cost me money, but it was necessary for me to make the overnight happen. I also couldn’t in good conscience offer a massage to a client when I knew I wouldn’t be able to give my best. Therefore the compensation at least partially offsets my opportunity costs for the day after. I charged my client $1,500 and he tipped $100. My calculus is thus: roughly (5+) hours of service/action (outside the 2-hr “nap”) which I would normally charge up to $1k for, depending on how you dice it. Then there’s the extra couple hours of action/service in the morning I again might have charged between $300-$500 for if it wasn’t an overnight. Plus the courtesy of coordinating the other guy joining. Then there’s the missed work the rest of the day, the hassle of interrupting my sleeping patterns and my general dislike/irritation of sleeping with anyone. Plus the stamina I had to bring and maintain for a long period, and deliver the goods over and over. BUT factor in it was slightly less time than a standard (12) hr overnight +/-. AND I really like and trust this client. We have a good history. We have a good time together. I want him to visit again. Normally I would have charged $2k for a standard overnight for someone I know less or don’t know at all. Some people can be torturous, and not in a fun way. For him, for this set of circumstances, I charged $1,500. That was the sweet spot for both parties to be happy. He plans to visit again for another session like this soon. A client might clutch his wallet at amounts from $1.5k-2k (or more) for an “overnight” lasting around 8hrs-12hrs ish, but the way I think through all the components, I believe the range I quote is a pretty reasonable ask. You get a lot of value for the cost. Money aside, overnights aren’t everybody’s cup of tea. For those with the ability and desire, however, it’s really worth the price of admission - particularly with a provider you really like, trust, and get along with. God knows what this costs to hire a woman for something similar. Count your blessings, boys.

I don’t think so. Clients hire us for privacy, relative anonymity, and for us to not care what the client looks like but to service him anyway. That’s part of the inherent value of hiring; not having to appeal to another person’s tastes and preferences, particularly with regard to the way you look. This dynamic may be weird in other contexts but totally normal for this one. We providers are used to it. Imperfect as the comparison may be, I might hire a therapist in some small part based on the way they look in their photos. Are they inviting, compassionate, and open, or closed, judgmental, and creepy? They have never seen me before but I hire their services and show up sight unseen, and their job is to help me with some rather personal, emotional, and intimate aspects of my life. In that limited way, hiring a therapist is somewhat adjacent to hiring a provider. I can’t imagine feeling compelled to send my therapist a photo of myself before our first meeting. Sending a photo is a nice courtesy, and I welcome it, mostly just to help me remember the client better and to add to their contact as a quick reference along with my notes. More often than not a client expects us to offer some commentary or react to the way they look. He wants validation, but there is no good way for us to give it to him. No matter what we say, we can’t win: 1) We say something positive. You assume we’re not genuine. 2) We say something positive. You believe we are genuine. You might conclude we lack professionalism because we’re meeting with you for the wrong reasons. 3) We say something vague, neutral, or even negative about the way you look. You assume the worst about us and how the meeting will go. Perhaps you cancel because of it. So…that leaves only one reasonable option: say nothing about the way the client looks. Consider this when you send a photo. Expect your provider to say nothing. When he says nothing, would you still want to send it? If yes, you’re sending for the right reason. Conversely, are you feeling disappointed that your provider does not comment on your looks? Then you’re sending photos for the wrong reasons. Our work is very different from other businesses in many respects, and the client is hiring us based on many factors, including in large part based on the way we look, both above and below the neck. This business has unique norms and expectations on both sides of hiring, but it’s a business nonetheless. I don’t find seeing clients sight unseen to be at all weird given the specific context. This topic brings to mind hookups and how different they are to hiring. Yet even there, context matters. Looks are very important for most hookup situations, or even a date. You need mutual interest and attraction for both parties to agree to meet. Not always though. I suppose it depends on what you want. “I’m ass up, face down, in a dark/dim room and I want your anonymous load. Come in through my unlocked door at: [insert location and other details here].” Sometimes what the other person looks like is immaterial. Meeting sight unseen is not weird in a context like this one.

Fair enough. Take what you can get!

I’m one of the InnDulge whores… Nicely run, well kept. Not cheap, but less than Hacienda, and Hacienda is quite nice and you pay for it. As always, clothing is optional, meaning you don’t have to be nude all the time for it to be enjoyable. It’s quite a social atmosphere and easy to get into friendly conversations with other guests, both naked and clothed alike.

No, I have no expectations, other than the client is of legal age, consents, and pays me for my time. That goes for incalls or outcalls, and 95% of the time I have no idea what the client looks like before our first meeting. My youngest is 19 and my oldest is 91. All different races, body types, personalities, and abilities. They have different preferences and different needs. It really could be anyone. That said, client age falls on what I like to think of as a bell curve. I describe it in this thread:

Or…invest in hiring a masseur who provides a real, purpose built, high quality, full size massage table for you - a sign he takes his job seriously.

I agree. I charge my regular rates when I travel and do just fine. I rent reasonably priced AirBnBs, perhaps costing in the range of one massage session per day, sometimes less. The high volume I do when I travel makes up for the extra costs like renting a house or hotel. Not sure why this would be any different, unless he’s only seeing one or two clients a day.

I saw Alec once for an outcall at my place and we used my table. He gives a decent therapeutic massage, not much into sensual territory which is fine. I just wanted therapeutic. We discussed RentMasseur and he did not want to use it for that reason. I ran into he and his husband/bf socially some time after and they were enjoyable company.

I agree 💯

@Hot4latin Haha, we did not video the session for content or anything like that. We barely took one bad photo as an afterthought. Linking these masseur ads for you below. You will find some chatter on them here on CoM, which you can continue if you wish in the Spas and Masseurs threads that mention them. Didn’t mean to distract that much from the topic here. Peter is on the road, traveling frequently, so you will see him in different cities. He mentioned moving back to New York at the end of a months long tour. MasseurFinder banned Peter because he started a competitor site called Gay Wellness. The other guys are in San Diego. I’ve mentioned Tal Sharone before and his competitor site, Allformen, which is similar to Gay Wellness. Anyone interested in these guys feel free to PM me. André: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/39190/ Brant: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/41104/ Peter: Peter | Wellness | Phoenix GAYWELLNESS.COM Learn about Peter , Massage in Phoenix, Arizona. Find Peter reviews and more on Gay Wellness. Newell: MuscleGingerXL on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com I expect to do more group massage trades in the future with other guys, probably a larger group next time. Newell offered to host so we can set up 6-8 tables. We all enjoyed learning from one another.

My relationship with money is a committed one. I haven’t hired very much in a while, maybe two legit massages over the past several months. I would really like to do more but have been saving. To economize, I’ve been doing massage trades from time to time, 1:1 with local guys, usually 90 mins each. A few weeks ago I hosted four other masseurs for a group massage exchange. We shared tips and techniques and enjoyed switching off on one another for 25 mins at a time, rotating out who is getting a massage and who is giving, 1:1 and 2:1 since we had an odd number (5) and space for two tables. All nude of course - purely for practical and efficiency reasons, I assure you 😆. It was a lot of fun. Good guys. From left to right: André, Brant, Yours Truly, Peter, and Newell (not pictured) Newell had to run to his next client before we thought to take this group pic. Sorry for the low quality selfie. Better than nothing, I guess. We all showered together afterwards in my large dual head shower and scrubbed each other down. Yes, we all fit together, even hulking Newell, with space to spare. Truly a big shower! One of these days I’ll have a whole rugby team in there #goals.