Simon Suraci

Depends on the client. Some want an immediate, if not rushed, down to business approach. Others like to draw out every moment and it can be pretty erotic. I get into it either way. Honestly though I prefer the latter. Tends to happen to me with the clients I attract. I see more regulars than one and done clients. Regulars who are into it like the slow, savoring, satisfaction of unwrapping in perfect patience. Teasing, exploring, exacting every inch of one another’s gradually more naked body until we’re down to underwear and still teasing and throbbing while keeping it on, until we’re both aching and ready to move on to more explicit action. Even then, we step back from desperate intense primal urging and ravaging to some slow, sensual and relaxing moments and then dive back in again. Lots of heavy, paced buildup back and forth up to an incredibly heightened, charged climax. Sometimes more than one climax depending on how long they are hiring for. Either way, it’s great having plenty of time to recover and relax and unwind and connect on another level as humans before starting to wrap up. Or the wham, bam, thank you, man. Zip up and ship out with barely a word approach. I see the whole range. Damn, I could write cheesy pulp romance if I wanted to… oops too late. Channeling my inner Meryl Streep in She-Devil:

Yes, I concur 👍 I take this approach when I travel to other cities. Mine is more like 5x. I have no time or energy to party or goof off after working all day. A successful trip for me is jam packed every day with appointments. I keep expenses as low as possible without sacrificing aspects of the client experience. Remember, we’re paying all of our normal fixed home city expenses and ongoing life expenses that do not vary with location like insurance, rent etc PLUS all the travel and accommodation expenses. For me, expenses are more than most, to include: my half of a house mortgage, my half of a farm land mortgage AND 100% of rent on a nice, newly built centrally located 1 bedroom house dedicated for my work in the most expensive city in the country… …AND all the travel expenses on top of that when I decide to travel. My rates aren’t exactly off the charts, so I’m working my butt off when I travel, and I’m taking considerable financial risks when visiting new places.

Lips, mouth. Fellow good kissers really do it for me. Neck. No hickies, please. Hands. Scrotum. Feet. But more in a sensual way. To some extent, my ears. Be subtle. Hole. But nobody knows what the hell they’re doing down there when they rim. Like, nobody! So I don’t even bother bringing any attention to mine. When I’m the giver, on the other hand, I bring a lot of pleasure to men. A lot. Straight guys and total tops included. Many a top becomes versatile under my care. For a taste, refer to my rimming guide. My dick, but most men are lousy, lazy, unskilled cocksuckers. It’s a rare gem who can give head well enough to get me off without me mentally forcing it for the sake of a performance. It takes a lot of variety and skill to do a good job. Up and down at one pressure and speed on repeat is a recipe for boredom and desensitization. Anywhere for me is erogenous if you mix up the stimulation to include the whole body. Repeatedly stimulating only a few areas comprising - idunno, 5% or less of my body - gets boring after a short while. Curiosity, creativity, novelty, exploration, and the unexpected are erotic gold. The feel of a bald man’s head sensually touching almost anywhere on my body. Ohhh, that gives me chills. Clients past have opened this door for me. You know who you are. My nipples are dead. May as well have gangrene, be inverted, or at best feel as sensitive as the back of my knee. I play along, or at least put up with it if the idea of my nips being erogenous excites a client and he wants to play with them. I can’t force my nips to be erogenous. But I’m great with other people’s nipples. I introduced a regular to clamps recently. That was fun. I love pushing buttons and discovering which ones work, and what each one does for each client. I’m far more interested in stimulating others than them stimulating me. What are your buttons?

Aw, 😭 but I can’t fit any extremities in there…

^Haha, maybe this was a joke, but seriously the $100 price is due to scarcity since this 20+yr old book is likely out of print, only available second hand. Very few new copies would be stored in attics, basements and warehouses somewhere. First off, do not take this as tax advice from me. Consult a professional. This is just some notes from my experience. Escorts - basically nothing. Unless your business is based in rural Nevada where it’s legal, or maybe a few other jurisdictions elsewhere in the US. Others help me on this point…I know we’ve discussed where it’s legal in other threads. Since a lot of our incum (typo, but I’m leaving it!) is cash, we can pay many of our expenses tax free with cash directly or by converting cash to another payment method. You have to get creative with some purchases that otherwise would be digital only. Credit cards aren’t the answer to that problem because large sums of money flowing through your bank get flagged and may get your accounts frozen. You want to report a good chunk (if not all of your income) and pay taxes on it to prove income and not raise red flags. Paying unreported cash is the equivalent of a tax break for business expenses if you choose to use that advantage. Escort expenses are not reportable because many of us work officially on paper as “models”, “coaches”, “actors”, “entertainers/writers/etc category”. You can’t claim your sexy underwear unless it’s a costume for a specific photo shoot or film or what have you - all of which you would have to document in the case of an audit. Gym memberships, cosmetics, clothing, lube, toys, condoms, advertising online (for RentMen etc), and the like are all considered personal expenses, even if they are related to your “official” job and/or escorting. You have to prove how specifically a particular purchase was directly related to a business expense under a legal job category that aligns with the category you claim on your taxes. So no, you can claim almost nothing. …Maybe as a fans site content creator there is some more wiggle room for toys, lighting, etc but it gets murky. Consult your tax professional. Maybe your “office” and related expenses like utilities, if you have a dedicated space for your legal on paper business. Or a portion of your home if you work in the same place you live. Some escorts claim some other entirely unrelated tax code category. That’s all assuming they have done it the proper way, by registering your own business and having a dedicated business account, etc. A lot of guys, especially the youngins are not that sophisticated or knowledgeable, so they do it on the side hoping not to get caught up in legal or tax difficulties. Maybe they only report their day job income. Law enforcement may care, but the IRS doesn’t care if you escort. They just want their share of the money you willingly or unwillingly report. Fans sites report your earnings, for example and you have to pay taxes on that. Same with digital payment processors. You can report some or all of your own cash earnings - or not. Venmo and other payment processors report unusual or heavy activity if it’s not registered as a business account. It looks like business activity, so it catches up to you. That all gets reported to the IRS. You have to use a business account and report it. In the past several years the rules changed a lot so escorts who continue with the same business as usual will have a rude awakening when Uncle Sam starts asking questions and asking for his share. ___________ Masseurs can write off quite a few things if they are legally certified/licensed in their jurisdiction and claim their income under the correct IRS tax code category. License/certification requirements vary by state. California, for example, requires nothing, but individual cities in CA have requirements ranging from lax to very strict. Most states require either a certification or license to practice massage. Many masseurs are not “official” in their jurisdictions, either on the business side of things or being certified, or both. In that case, you have to report another tax category. Masseurs with everything in order can write off stuff like: equipment, supplies, space rental (or portion of home), continuing education, travel, accommodations, advertising, any regular generic business expenses from stamps to website design… lots of stuff you can write off as a masseur if you set it up the right way.

Agree 💯

I’m keenly aware of this sentiment. This is one of many reasons why I do not work out of the same place I live. That is why, for me at least, it makes no difference whether I am partnered because he is not present or involved in any way.

Yikes. 😳 Another stroke on the scoreboard for hiring. Yes there are positives and negatives to hookups and hires, but by and large, hiring offers a lot of value for a lot of people. Get what you want, with who you want, when you want. No muss, no fuss.

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Say you ARE recorded without your knowledge or consent. It might stop right there, without anyone else seeing it. It has to be pretty compelling footage for someone to be motivated to post it. It could be at the wrong angle, or without the best lighting, or maybe the footage is just not that interesting in general. Maybe the way you look is not that interesting to the peeping Tom. Say it passed those tests and ends up on the internet somewhere. For some, the concern ends right there. People don’t even know who you are, or care, unless you’re a well known national or international public figure. Most people aren’t. You probably don’t even know it’s online and will never find it in the first place. Your face is likely blurred. Many sites are better about privacy and consent now, although not all. The biggest names in online video content require all parties to consent to the video being posted, especially if the video is monetized in any way. Say you manage to find a video of yourself online. You can request to have it taken down or take legal actions to force it to be taken down and have the Tom pay for your legal fees. Nobody wants to deal with the legal fallout, so you have the upper hand. I get it. No one wants to be secretly recorded or have their privacy violated. But still, in the worst case, the consequences for most people are pretty minimal. I’m not saying hidden cams are acceptable or that we should tolerate them. I’m just saying that most clients have little to worry about in the grand scheme of things. Well known public figures presumably have the means to control the environment such as having an outcall at a hotel or at their home, hiring private security, and making the provider sign an NDA, among other measures. Those with a true, compelling need for privacy already have it. Hate to break it to you guys, but most clients aren’t the kinds of people someone cares to post videos of on the internet. What you do behind closed doors is, by and large, not that interesting.

There’s no reason a masseur or escort needs your face or body photos. It’s a red flag that they’re probably cherry picking clients based on whatever preferences they have. I suggest clients pass and move on to the professionals with no hangups about how their clients look.

I’ve organized successful threesomes for clients. I only work with guys who get it, who understand that the client is the focus and we take cues from the client to center the session around his pleasure and satisfaction. Some clients love the voyeuristic aspect, others not so much, and others a bit of both. I’m always working toward what the client wants and avoiding getting caught up in a moment with another provider.

lol. If I had a nickel for every one of those…I could quit the biz! Not that I’m perfect. I let it go.

Good point @Jamie21. I agree.

Yup, that’s more of less what I mean when I say special requests welcome. Doesn’t have to mean weird shit per se, just encouraging the client to ask for exactly what they need, however mundane or niche. So many clients are afraid to ask for what they actually want, especially moreso with massage clients, but even on RentMen some clients have a hard time communicating their needs. On RentMasseur, I can’t explicitly advertise escort services, so that’s one way to indicate generally that I offer more, and that clients should ask me about it. I mention an expanded menu and prompt clients to ask for it.

My experience with Jim Robert was so-so, I wouldn’t repeat. Not bad, nothing negative to say, just ok. Nice studio space, nice shower and convenient to downtown and Deep Ellum. He does mud wraps too which I tried and it was interesting.

I would expect nothing less from you @DrownedBoy 😂

I’ve done some introspection and concluded that I will strive to be unapologetically myself and make an effort to answer inquiries in a more straightforward way rather than be defensive or evasive or say a client’s question is irrelevant (even when it is!). When my response costs me work, so be it. I’m doing myself and the client a favor by making space for the people who most belong in my schedule. The prospective clients who like me for me will hire, and those who have hangups about irrelevant aspects of my life outside work won’t hire. Simple as that. I can’t allow the odd client inquiry to get to me, as unfair as it may seem at times. I’m me. If you don’t like me, I’m not going to cry about it. Quick aside - most clients are mature enough to handle themselves, and ask the appropriate questions and are concerned with relevant information. This prospective client fortunately represents only a minority. Thank you to all the clients here that get it. In the past, I’ve said I can’t be all things to all people and that’s ok. I’m reminding myself of that now and moving on. Plenty of people like me for who I am and those are the best friends, family, and clients I want to surround myself with anyway. Cheers to growth!

I chalk it up to paranoia. Hosts aren’t interested in guest activities unless the guests damage the property or violate the house rules. If something is damaged, the hosts don’t need it on video inside, just confirmation that a particular guest was in the unit to prove that the damage happened on the guest’s watch. Lots of AirBnBs have cameras outside, near entries but not inside. One host in Houston noticed I had visitors coming and going and called it in. Since having visitors does not violate the rules, he couldn’t do anything. Only if I had unauthorized overnight guests would I have violated the rules. So the host made up a story about having a family emergency and asked me to leave, and refunded the balance of my stay. Sucks I had to cancel several days full of appointments and high tail it back to Dallas. You can filter for AirBnBs that do not have any cameras. I do that now whenever possible. I also explicitly ask the hosts before booking if it’s ok to have visitors. I explain that it would not be for parties or loud gatherings, just 1-2 people for a couple hours or so. No problems since I started doing that. I rely on AirBnb, VRBO, and similar services to book my accommodations because it’s the only way I can get everything I need at the right price. Most hotels do not have guest laundry facilities. Keep that in mind the next time you visit a masseur in a hotel and ask consider how many massages have taken place on the sheets you’re laying on. AirBnBs give me access to the amenities I need to provide a good client experience, like parking, nice neighborhood, an uncramped space to set up a table, and laundry. It’s usually less than hotel prices too, which make it worthwhile for me to do the trip. Hotels are not immune from peeping toms either. Anyone see that Netflix true crime doc about the hotel owner who watched his guests for years in the attic vents? Consider your level of risk tolerance and proceed accordingly. The vast majority of accommodations will not have cameras spying on guests inside the unit. You’re more likely to be filmed without your knowledge by a masseur, escort, or psychopath hookup in any location than an AirBnB. Netflix's intensely creepy documentary Voyeur will scare you away from motels forever WWW.RADIOTIMES.COM Journalist Gay Talese uncovers the nefarious tale of a crafty peeping tom

I appreciate the other responses so far. I guess what rubs me the wrong way is that the client is asking me something that presumably either a) requires me to lie in order to satisfy his fantasy, or b) costs me his business if I tell the truth. I would rather tell the truth, but I am irritated that I am more than likely losing his business when I do, so I feel compelled to lie, and that makes me uncomfortable. In this case I tried to avoid losing his business but at the same time not have to lie. It backfired. Keep in mind, I wouldn’t lie about consequential things like health status or something about my body, or anything that would actually impact his experience with me. I’m leaning toward telling the truth and being ok with losing the business. If the client is still interested but wants to follow up with a lot of probing personal life questions, I might say that I prefer not to discuss my personal life and try to refocus attention on him and his needs and how I might be of service.

Hiring and hookups are not the same thing at all. The dynamics and motivations are different. Who you choose (and the fact that the provider is choosing at all) and why you’re engaged is completely different. The only thing that may be the same is the fact that you’re performing certain acts. It’s more difficult to square that when you know you could be investing the same energy but get paid for it A provider’s enjoyment may be much greater with someone he mutually chooses, and for mutual satisfaction rather than only focusing on someone else’s needs. The needs focus is true no matter how attractive the client is to the provider. With hookups, meeting needs goes both ways.

I appreciate the response, I don’t take it the wrong way. I ask because I want perspective outside of my own head. I listen and consider other opinions and I’m not afraid to question myself. I want to grow. So, thank you. You’re right, I did jump to a conclusion. I’m assuming that the prospective client asking this particular question means: 1) he is only interested if the answer is yes, and; 2) by asking the question at all that this information is important to him. More important than all the typical more relevant questions like rates, availability, location, travel, services, what I can do for him, physical attributes, etc, that he hasn’t even asked for before this question. The only things he asked before this was my sexual orientation and if I cum a lot. I sent him a video of me blowing a big load and was straightforward about my orientation. 3) he will not be interested if I answer no. The question puts me in a position of knowing full well that by answering ‘no’ that I will most likely lose the work. It sucks because I want the work and I don’t want something that has no relevance to prevent me from getting the work. Should I just be prepared to lose the work, then? That’s what I’m hearing. I realize I came across as defensive. However, the expletives in the reply shows me a lot sooner how unreasonable and short fused the client actually is. If the client proceeded to hire me I would have walked into a bad situation. If it didn’t come through in texts, it certainly would have come through in person. I’m actually glad I didn’t see this client. Had I not been defensive, I might have missed that and seen a bad client. (That’s me being defensive about being defensive 😉)

My personal sex life is a casualty of being in this biz. It’s one of the tough costs of doing this work that clients fortunately don’t have to think about. The question for me is not how, but if I do it at all. Oftentimes I lack desire for sexual intimacy outside work for a number of reasons: 1) At any given time, I’m emotionally and sexually spent, and can’t do any more if I wanted to. I would have to do double duty work of advocating for my own needs in addition to (yet again) focusing on others’ needs in order attract their interest and commitment to meet. I don’t hire, but I see the appeal. I’d rather have someone focus on my needs and not their own for a change. 2) Opportunity costs. I’m concerned that wasting my mojo on something unpaid may affect my ability to provide a stellar experience for the next client. That next client may only be willing to request a same day appointment. I have to be ready, or prepared to miss out on that income I need to make my life work. 3) there’s the psychological mind fuck dynamic of: “I could be getting paid $XXX for this right now and I’m giving it away for free.” Almost like volunteering your professional skills and time for an uncharitable cause. My personal fulfillment in the experience has to exceed that psychological barrier by so much that I can let it go and actually enjoy myself. That’s a tall order, at least for me. 4) I have no time, patience, or energy for it. I could spend weeks on apps and never get anywhere. Lots of frogs out there. I know because I use apps for work and man, it’s pretty bleak. What little time left I have outside work is better spent on other things. 5) Clients are all over the apps. It would be a nightmare trying to manage who’s blocked, who’s a client, who’s a potential client that I just don’t know yet. People know what I do and want to hire me or talk about work on the app, or spend chat time comparing hiring with hookups as if they are exactly the same thing. Boring. Then there’s worrying about presenting yourself the wrong way and losing clients because of it…it’s all just too much to manage. 6) STIs. The fewer encounters I have, the less likely I will be to contract or transmit an STI. I constantly consider my clients and want them to feel comfortable that I’m not being unnecessarily reckless. I have way less sex compared to many of my non-provider peers, even though this is my job. My clients, on average, aren’t having that much multiple partner sex either, but it varies. When I’m out of commission due to recovery time from clearing an STI, that’s lost income. So yeah, it’s a cost to consider, and one I want to minimize. 7) Few people are worth my time. 😎 I have a partner. His needs come first after work obligations. Recreational activity is necessarily limited to the periods we decide we’re open. So…the preceding points notwithstanding, it ain’t gonna happen when we’re not open anyway! 9) Considering all the above, the planets will sooner align before I get some off the clock. So my answer is: I just don’t. The deck is stacked, at least for me. Then again I’m sure other providers don’t put as much thought into all this as I do, and they’re probably better for it.