Masseur vs. Escort

[Mark_fl]

Greetings, experts. I have a question. If you are looking for a massage with an oral happy ending, do you think that's a masseur, or an escort? 

Seems like splitting the baby. Escorts seems to charge less if you don't want penetration or kissing, but don't always specialize in massage.  Masseurs, from my somewhat limited experience seem ok with mutual touch or you sucking them, but they usually aren't too into giving.

So do you think it's better to ask a masseur if that's part of his service for a fee, or an escort what they would charge for massage and oral, and see if it's less than full service? 

[dutchal]

1. Not even all escorts give oral, and some insist on using a condom, so that should be discussed ahead of time.

2.  Few escorts who aren't also listed on MF or RMasseur give a decent massage, and many of those on RMasseur have limited or no massage skills.

3. There are (in my experience a few) able masseurs who include giving oral (sometimes with a condom) as part of their usual procedure, but these guys are also among the priciest.  You can find out who they are by doing a request for DMs back to you with their identity.

4.  There are other able masseurs who will add giving oral for an upcharge (a present or past listing on RMen is a clue).  Again, (a) a condom might be a condition, and (b) this should be settled ahead of time.

5. And there is always the YMMV factor.  Even if your masseur doesn't usually give oral, if he's horny enough, you turn him on enough, and he enjoys giving, it might just happen anyway.

[Nue2thegame]

If I am looking for anything more than a pure massage, I seek an escort, sometimes with advertised massage skills. If I am seeing a masseur for a massage, sometimes I’m pleasantly surprised if more is offered but I really don’t like upsells. I might return for more in the future. 

[jeezifonly]

General rule: Massage goes from manual touch to manual release - provider nudity and mutual touch vary, but a massage - and the rate applied, limits the engagement to hands only. Some will provide more, some will provide more for an upsold rate. Will he/won't he?seems a popular game. It's a game I only play with a trained, skilled, experienced and well-reviewed masseur. I know I will get my money's worth in bodywork, even if I skip the release. 

If you know you want more (mouth on anything, anything put inside you, or your hands given free access to his entire body) while on his table, hire an escort who massages, at the escort rate. 

[+ Jamie21]

If that’s what you want, ask him whether he’s a masseur or escort. No guy will be upset at being asked that question. 

[DMonDude]

Masseurs and escorts have a lot of overlap. Though in my experiences, masseurs are more likely to dabble in escort services than escorts are in masseur services (actual, skilled, massage). It's best to just ask the individual provider what they're ok with.

Edited September 3 by DMonDude

[ACluelessGent]

4 hours ago, DMonDude said:

Masseurs and escorts have a lot of overlap. Though in my experiences, masseurs are more likely to dabble in escort services than escorts are in masseur services (actual, skilled, massage). It's best to just ask the individual provider what they're ok with.

No there is no overlap. Escorts and masseurs are two different animals. Masseurs are for massage only. Anything sexual is escort territory.

[DMonDude]

2 minutes ago, ACluelessGent said:

No there is no overlap. Escorts and masseurs are two different animals. Masseurs are for massage only. Anything sexual is escort territory.

You are very wrong.

[ACluelessGent]

I am not, but for argument's sake let's assume I am wrong. So what is the difference between masseur and escort? Where do you place the dividing line? At the blow job mark? At the penetration mark? 

[DMonDude]

38 minutes ago, ACluelessGent said:

Where do you place the dividing line? At the blow job mark? At the penetration mark? 

Good lord. There isn't a hard clear defined line, that's why i said there is overlap. That's why basically everyone here is saying it's fuzzy and to just ask the individual you're hiring what they do and don't do. It's really really truly that simple dude.

[ACluelessGent]

I understand that in the US people say masseurs for legal reason. I also understand that cheapskates do the same hoping to pay less. But they are different. When I have a stiff neck I need a masseur. When I want a bj I call an escort. As simple as that. 

[+ Just Chuck]

There are providers who advertise as masseurs who are really escorts but they provide what’s essentially a role-play session where they give customers a sex session but open with the pretense of massage.  But the massage component is usually very brief and has no real therapeutic value, it’s just part of the role play on the way to sex.  

[Mark_fl]

Of course they overlap. I've had good, legitimate massages from a guy for almost an hour with a HE after. You can't tell me that was simply an escort. He was licensed, etc.

If you want to argue that in the last 10 minutes he was an escort, fine, but there was certainly an overlap.

[RugbyBen]

I've seen plenty of fully trained, professional masseurs who don't advertise sensual as an option, don't appear on the standard websites like rentmasseur.com, GuysWay etc but still give a HE or in some cases more. Of course there's overlap. 

[Nue2thegame]

3 hours ago, ACluelessGent said:

I understand that in the US people say masseurs for legal reason. I also understand that cheapskates do the same hoping to pay less. But they are different. When I have a stiff neck I need a masseur. When I want a bj I call an escort. As simple as that. 

And some days we have a stiff neck and a stiff cock

[ACluelessGent]

41 minutes ago, Nue2thegame said:

And some days we have a stiff neck and a stiff cock

In these days you need a physiotherapist and an escort. I suggest you don't ask your escort to massage your neck.

[Nue2thegame]

6 hours ago, ACluelessGent said:

In these days you need a physiotherapist and an escort. I suggest you don't ask your escort to massage your neck.

Many on this side of the pond are multi-talented and/or have multiple certifications. I actually know some in the UK, as well. 

[CuriousByNature]

When I read the title of the thread I was expecting something more along the lines of a 'Fight Club' scenario.

[Mark_fl]

5 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said:

When I read the title of the thread I was expecting something more along the lines of a 'Fight Club' scenario.

I didn't think we were allowed to talk about that. 

[Wings246]

2 hours ago, CuriousByNature said:

When I read the title of the thread I was expecting something more along the lines of a 'Fight Club' scenario.

 

2 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

I didn't think we were allowed to talk about that. 

By extension, are you guys implying that the masseur and escort are one and the same person (as in Edward Norton and Brad Pitt)?  No wonder there's an overlap.   😆

[Becket]

If they specifically say "Sensual" massage you got a good shot. If they say "erotic" one would be disappointed if it did NOT include at least a happy ending.

Edited September 4 by Becket
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[Mark_fl]

20 minutes ago, Wings246 said:

 

By extension, are you guys implying that the masseur and escort are one and the same person (as in Edward Norton and Brad Pitt)?  No wonder there's an overlap.   😆

Well now you've ruined the ending for everyone.

[Wings246]

1 hour ago, Mark_fl said:

Well now you've ruined the ending for everyone.

How?  Isn't there always just 1 ultimate ending?  HE, no???

[ACluelessGent]

7 hours ago, Nue2thegame said:

Many on this side of the pond are multi-talented and/or have multiple certifications. I actually know some in the UK, as well. 

I doubt it. Sometime ago I had a ski accident and needed a physiotherapist. I had to change 3 to find a good one. As for escorts, among hundreds I consider myself lucky if I find one I like every year or two... So the probability to find a physiotherapist and escort... well you can do the math... 🤣

[Thelatin]

Giving a good massage is a lot of work.  I've found the past few years that they just end up topping me, as it's easier and more fun lol.  I do hit that glute machine several times a week which has helped