JB_Studio38 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) **This is easier to understand on sites with clear rates listed (RentMasseur) versus RentMen and sites without rates listed** I had this discussion elsewhere online (more escort run), and the general consensus was that it’s okay and even encouraged to add an extra $100/$200 if a provider is traveling an hour or 2 outside of their area, to do an outcall in a different city. However, I have been traveling for quite some time (mainly because my current city isn’t profitable, and I have to travel in order to make any real money) and the usual protocol is: client sees ad in their city, sees the rate and wants to books. And there’s always an assumption by many that when they see our ad, we are either there/planning to be there/available that same day etc etc. I’ve discussed it before, why that isn’t always the case for every provider. Specifically for me because, how can I be in all those places at once? Here’s an example below of how RM displays it (dates omitted for this example) As you can see, there’s a current location followed by a list of travel cities. People will often ask, “are you in xxx city or when are you coming to xxx city”. Some of those areas may be within the same metro and only a 20-30 minute drive. Others may be in the 2-4 hour range. I like to try and incorporate a 90 minute/2 hour minimum. However most times, if I try to convey that I have an added fee to go to the city, the person may say “well don’t come all the way here just for me”. Or will say, “when you’re in town let me know”. And it’s like ummm 🤨 How is this supposed to happen if I don’t have anybody to go to the city for? I tell people who hit me up all the time in other cities, I can’t just show up and go to a city with nothing on schedule. I have to have somebody to go for. In some cities, I can go and expect 2-3 clients or more to show up. However that may not happen all in a day (and usually does not). I may have to stay for a few days. But in other areas, I may can only spare a day there, maybe even go and stay overnight. But then there’s extra hotel cost associated. Clients seem to often think we are going to a city, posting up and having guys coming and going and raking in money. I’m here to break it: That’s more of a myth and speculation than how it actually goes. The only sure fire way to ensure fair rate, is for each individual client to give the amount plus some for travel/hotel. Even if it’s $50/$100. I’m noticing many clients aren’t paying extra for travel and, I’m starting to feel that’s not fair in every situation. If I’m traveling 2+ hours to get to their location, even if it’s a city I’m passing thru/open to visit: wouldn’t it seem fair to have an extra courtesy added to it? Or does it come off greedy? I don’t think it’s greedy. Some people have to better consider the effort it takes to go to these “nearby travel cities”. But it seems hard to convey to clients that our “rate” is money for the session, not necessarily covering for extra commutes. Many times they may only want to book an hour, which may be up to $350/400 for many. That’s a decent amount of money to pocket, but if hotel/gas/etc is not being covered: the amount pocketed can end up being much less than that. I think it’s just time to start adding an extra amount to longer travel if it’s more than an hour away. Some expect same day visits also. I want to consider having an extra $50 courtesy for same day bookings. This is why I like so much extended/overnight sessions. $1,000+ is easy to cover most all possible incall/outcall expenses incurred. But regardless, it’s becoming harder having to only work with my rate and not getting paid for travel time when I been traveling nearly every other week lately. At the same time, I understand a lot of the providers out there tend to work in the metro, and so many ads often push being “available now”. There seems to be an expected default method of working, that I feel doesn’t account for providers like myself who may have to travel for majority of their income/bookings. Edited 7 hours ago by JB_Studio38
jeezifonly Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I'm one of those clients who has spent a lifetime of work operating with union contract work schedules, meeting hard deadlines, and massaging massive egos. I'm retired now, so why subject myself to this level of torture just to have some fun? MikeBiDude, soloyo215, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 2 2
nomad Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago As you chat with the client about meeting up, you bring this up as part of the discussion. I wouldn't be offended at all by it. It is not unlike paying travel costs that clients do for a guy to come to them from a different city. Best to have the discussion and agreement before you undertake the travel involved.
Rayphactor Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, nomad said: As you chat with the client about meeting up, you bring this up as part of the discussion. I wouldn't be offended at all by it. It is not unlike paying travel costs that clients do for a guy to come to them from a different city. Best to have the discussion and agreement before you undertake the travel involved. Agree. If a provider I was interested in said they have travel costs to account for, I would not be offended at all. I totally get the fee is for the time provided, and if he has to travel an hour to get to me, I'd have no problem tipping extra. Whoisyourdaddy and MikeBiDude 2
nomad Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Being in a big city, it might not reflect the reality of those in smaller cities who may be more resistant paying extra for travel to get a guy to visit their city. But come on, being in a smaller city, I would think you would be eager pay a little extra to get the talent you want to share in the sheets. 😆 Way less expensive than undertaking a trip to a nearby bigger city.
Mark_fl Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I guess I'm in the camp that if you list a "near travel" location, it's someplace convenient that you're willing to travel. Maybe if you expect extra for the locations you listed as your area, you should make that notation in your ad, or ask for the location before quoting a rate and include your travel time/expense in the quote. ACluelessGent and + KensingtonHomo 2
+ KensingtonHomo Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Mark_fl said: I guess I'm in the camp that if you list a "near travel" location, it's someplace convenient that you're willing to travel. Maybe if you expect extra for the locations you listed as your area, you should make that notation in your ad, or ask for the location before quoting a rate and include your travel time/expense in the quote. I agree with this. I do consulting and public speaking, and if the client expects me to travel outside of my city, they cover my travel and lodging expenses. That's part of the contract agreed upon upfront.
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