If the outcall rate is steep, don't bother!

[viewing ownly]

There are providers that charge upwards of $50 to $100 to come to your hotel on top of their requested donation, and STILL want you to give more for their gas / time. What in the Hell is the point of asking for that much more, then? That should cover it, and then some.

I really wanted to see a guy (my second choice) when I was out of town, and he insisted I come to him, supplying me with directions on what different public transportation I should take - in the dark - in a city I'm unfamiliar with. I told him I know his outcall rate is steep (his was $100), but I want him to come to where I am. I stopped getting communication with him and discovered upon returning home that he blocked contact from me on the masseur site I initially contacted him on. MrManscaperRP

The man I initially wanted to see (my first choice) I have an eerie feeling has bodybuilder-ed himself to death. He regularly logged on to rent masseur, but suddenly stopped shortly before my trip, telling me he can't wait to see me again about 1 week prior. His body fat was insanely low the last time he and I were with one another. No response from him with a couple of tries. He had no upcharge for outcall, even willing to drive to Denver from Colorado Springs at no extra charge to clients when he lived there. MassageByMatt.

Third guy was a charm. $40 outcall rate and had a fabulous experience. Musclejake.

[+ FrankR]

7 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

There are providers that charge upwards of $50 to $100 to come to your hotel on top of their requested donation, and STILL want you to give more for their gas / time. What in the Hell is the point of asking for that much more, then? That should cover it, and then some.

The point is economics.  Have you considered that your expectations about free or cheap travel time may not be reasonable?  And the cost involved in travel is higher than you think.  Do the math.  Or just keep complaining about it. Whatever makes you happy.

[soloyo215]

9 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

There are providers that charge upwards of $50 to $100 to come to your hotel on top of their requested donation, and STILL want you to give more for their gas / time. What in the Hell is the point of asking for that much more, then? That should cover it, and then some.

I really wanted to see a guy (my second choice) when I was out of town, and he insisted I come to him, supplying me with directions on what different public transportation I should take - in the dark - in a city I'm unfamiliar with. I told him I know his outcall rate is steep (his was $100), but I want him to come to where I am. I stopped getting communication with him and discovered upon returning home that he blocked contact from me on the masseur site I initially contacted him on. MrManscaperRP

The man I initially wanted to see (my first choice) I have an eerie feeling has bodybuilder-ed himself to death. He regularly logged on to rent masseur, but suddenly stopped shortly before my trip, telling me he can't wait to see me again about 1 week prior. His body fat was insanely low the last time he and I were with one another. No response from him with a couple of tries. He had no upcharge for outcall, even willing to drive to Denver from Colorado Springs at no extra charge to clients when he lived there. MassageByMatt.

Third guy was a charm. $40 outcall rate and had a fabulous experience. Musclejake.

Just like ATMs charge a convenience fee, so do providers.

[aiseeya]

20 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

There are providers that charge upwards of $50 to $100 to come to your hotel on top of their requested donation, and STILL want you to give more for their gas / time. What in the Hell is the point of asking for that much more, then? That should cover it, and then some.

I really wanted to see a guy (my second choice) when I was out of town, and he insisted I come to him, supplying me with directions on what different public transportation I should take - in the dark - in a city I'm unfamiliar with. I told him I know his outcall rate is steep (his was $100), but I want him to come to where I am. I stopped getting communication with him and discovered upon returning home that he blocked contact from me on the masseur site I initially contacted him on. MrManscaperRP

The man I initially wanted to see (my first choice) I have an eerie feeling has bodybuilder-ed himself to death. He regularly logged on to rent masseur, but suddenly stopped shortly before my trip, telling me he can't wait to see me again about 1 week prior. His body fat was insanely low the last time he and I were with one another. No response from him with a couple of tries. He had no upcharge for outcall, even willing to drive to Denver from Colorado Springs at no extra charge to clients when he lived there. MassageByMatt.

Third guy was a charm. $40 outcall rate and had a fabulous experience. Musclejake.

Lawyers adn consultant often charge their travel time, just saying 🤷‍♂️

[italianboyph]

I think sometimes we need to put into consideration not only the distance if one is further out  to travel to, but the price for gas, as well as uber. Theres a reason for why people have put outcall rates, vs incall

[+ PhileasFogg]

The list goes on:

- lugging a table (if they bring one)

- parking if they drive 

[+ SirBillybob]

- the bespoke Kimberly-Clark deep tissue that prompts you to philosophically price the meaning out of money

Edited June 3 by SirBillybob

[BuffaloKyle]

The funny thing is I've seen the opposite as well. Providers charging more for an incall rather than an outcall. With those providers I think they would rather go to the client's place than give out their address to tons of people.

[AtlantaDude]

7 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

The funny thing is I've seen the opposite as well. Providers charging more for an incall rather than an outcall. With those providers I think they would rather go to the client's place than give out their address to tons of people.

Last provider’s apartment I went to was a total mess and filthy.   Would never go back.   Maybe he should go to outcall only.  

[jmichaeliii]

I have found that if you book more than once, providers will not only travel to you, but charge their incall rate.

If it is a one time connection, you just have to deal with it.  If it is someone you really like and you both connect well, I find they are happy to work with you.

[jeezifonly]

14 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

The funny thing is I've seen the opposite as well. Providers charging more for an incall rather than an outcall. With those providers I think they would rather go to the client's place than give out their address to tons of people.

One masseur I reached out to who asked higher in-calls, said that he did not live alone, and had to be able to give the roommate advance notice and a cash incentive to vacate the premises when a client was coming. 

[BuffaloKyle]

2 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

One masseur I reached out to who asked higher in-calls, said that he did not live alone, and had to be able to give the roommate advance notice and a cash incentive to vacate the premises when a client was coming. 

Dang I wanna be that provider's roommate. I'd personally be on here trying to get guys to hire him for incalls. 😅

[Wings246]

19 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

I've seen the opposite as well. Providers charging more for an incall rather than an outcall.

That is quite a strange and counterintuitive pricing structure at first glance.  I always thought the difference between in-call and out-call rates is attributed to the travel time & commute/driving costs.  That said, I also believe the one who is traveling has more control over the arrangement than the one who is waiting (easier to postpone and/or be late, easier to ditch and/or run away from shady situations, etc.).  From a provider’s perspectives, it can be more advantageous to increase the financial barriers for in-calls.

19 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

they would rather go to the client's place than give out their address to tons of people.

Not to mention the risk of inviting a psychopath into your own home and the stress of figuring out how to kick the psychopath out when things go south.  Do you call the police?  And if so, how do you explain the situation to the cops (if they even care to show up in the first place)?

[BuffaloKyle]

1 hour ago, Wings246 said:

Not to mention the risk of inviting a psychopath into your own home and the stress of figuring out how to kick the psychopath out when things go south.  Do you call the police?  And if so, how do you explain the situation to the cops (if they even care to show up in the first place)?

Or if a provider gives out their address to multiple clients who do a "no show" and ghost. Then as a provider you're worried about some sort of stalker.

[aBdENCO]

A couple of years ago a porn actor who came to town posted on RM so I hit him up for a session. He didn't respond until months later when he was back home. He told me he'd be happy to book me but he had conditions: That I'd pay his airline ticket and his hotel room since he'd have to travel back here. He also told me his hourly rate would start the moment he woke up on the day he'd be flying here for the session AND that clock would be ticking from when he left home to travel until he stepped back in his door at the end of the trip. That rate did NOT include the massage session, I'd have still owed him that. I fucking blocked him.

[Wings246]

14 hours ago, aBdENCO said:

A couple of years ago a porn actor who came to town posted on RM so I hit him up for a session. He didn't respond until months later when he was back home. He told me he'd be happy to book me but he had conditions: That I'd pay his airline ticket and his hotel room since he'd have to travel back here. He also told me his hourly rate would start the moment he woke up on the day he'd be flying here for the session AND that clock would be ticking from when he left home to travel until he stepped back in his door at the end of the trip. That rate did NOT include the massage session, I'd have still owed him that. I fucking blocked him.

So he's following the billable hour and travel time concepts adopted by lawyers and other licensed professionals.  If that's the case, then I need to see the license as I will have to report to the official licensing board if and when the professional service is not rendered according to the professional standards.  I have no qualms about how people run their own business, but people do need to use common sense and adhere to logic.  I can't help but wonder who this person is.

[SecretProvider]

outcalls can be a drain for a number of reasons -  having to walk into an unkonwn area, fake clients pranking, travel time just to name a few. 

But i think the title to this thread could be changed to : 

If the outcall rate is steep, do incall instead!

[aBdENCO]

I won't identify him. It doesn't matter anyway, he died about a year ago.

[Wings246]

On 6/8/2026 at 4:26 PM, SecretProvider said:

But i think the title to this thread could be changed to : 

If the outcall rate is steep, do incall instead!

The problem is: many people (on both sides) cannot host.  We are stranded with no alternatives.