Overseas Trip

[bfmaz]

This was a fascinating thread. I felt like a I was having a peak inside your worlds. OP, sounds like you hired guys from tropical countries where it's common not having real winter clothes, or you hired guys who were coming straight from other appointments/other cities, just with their carry on and without much prep. Or they wanted you to be their knight in shinning armor in every way!

On 5/6/2026 at 10:31 AM, JEC said:

The bottom line here as others have said, is to have clear communication up front about what is/is not expected.

As a client, I would expect to pay for all meals, snacks, coffee, drinks, etc.  Maybe some cash so they have some mad money for the week (this should be agreed in advance).  I would also assume I would "splurge" for a few things, but those should be splurges and not expected.  It should be a nice surprise when you do pick up the bill, and the provider should be grateful.  

I could see some providers thinking they can go on a shopping spree, that's why it's important to establish boundaries up front so they know that's out of bounds.

It would also be important to discuss other things like:

- do he / you get downtime (apart) ?

- can you / he see other clients/providers or hookup while traveling together?

- is he open to hiring a 3rd if the opportunity presents?

- are substances permitted?  how about drunkenness?

- what are your expectations about sex - frequency?  limits?  on-demand?

- is PDA permitted/expected?

- what's your body clock schedule?  What time do you expect to start and end your day?  Being a morning person and being with someone who is a late sleeper (or vice versa) can be annoying

- What are your habits - gym? Naps? snacks? computer time?

- What's your activity level?  What kinds of activities or excursions will you do while traveling?  Do you have physical limits or limitations?

- what are your food likes and dislikes (or allergies), traveling with a vegan could be quite limiting

As the client, I think it's primarily your responsibility to communicate your needs/limits and where you are willing to be flexible.

 

[Wings246]

5 hours ago, rentaljock said:

I made $900 over the course of three nights, so it's not terrible pay. Considering how much time I spent with him and my exhaustion from the experience, I felt I should have been paid more. 

I'm sorry to say this, but I feel you got scammed big time.  In my dictionary, $900 over the course of 3 nights is REALLY terrible pay, let alone the other ridiculous BS you had to put up with the whole trip.  You should give yourself more credits for your time/value.

[SecretProvider]

6 hours ago, rentaljock said:

The rate was $300 per session. The session would only take 20-30 minutes. The rest of the time, he didn't pay me an hourly rate, but he picked up travel (except for the finale uber trip) bought dinner, and drinks. This guy would not agree to or negotiate a fair hourly rate. He refused to pay me for my general time and would only pay for the private sessions. 

I decided not to walk away, and I should have decided not to go on this trip. I made $900 over the course of three nights, so it's not terrible pay. Considering how much time I spent with him and my exhaustion from the experience, I felt I should have been paid more. 

You were absolutely taken advantage of and you should have been paid more. That is an hourly rate. NOT an overnight. It makes way more sense now with what he was doing with his fake uber and promises of 'future payments'.

You are still new to the business and only working 5 months and he for sure took advantage of you in a bad way. If you have any questions or guidance please feel free to reach out by DM. 

[rentaljock]

1 minute ago, SecretProvider said:

You were absolutely taken advantage of and you should have been paid more. That is an hourly rate. NOT an overnight. It makes way more sense now with what he was doing with his fake uber and promises of 'future payments'.

You are still new to the business and only working 5 months and he for sure took advantage of you in a bad way. If you have any questions or guidance please feel free to reach out by DM. 

I should have known better. His desperate nature made me feel pity for him, and I gave in. LOL. NEVER AGAIN! 

It's all good now because I had my first overnight and it went really well. 

[Aedo]

On 5/6/2026 at 7:56 AM, Rod Hagen said:

I just got back from Patagonia (El Calafate and El Chalten) a few weeks ago.  Hope you're not going soon,

I'm going to go in September, which is late winter or early spring down there. It'll be cold, but that's okay. I do want to see some snow.

[MscleLovr]

6 hours ago, Aedo said:

I'm going to go in September, which is late winter or early spring down there. It'll be cold, but that's okay. I do want to see some snow.

I was there in late June one year and there was plenty of snow. Definitely take your Winter gear/clothing.

Bear in mind it’s a huge area. I only explored the northern part which is often referred to as ‘the Lake District’. We flew into Bariloche and drove from there.

I was genuinely surprised at how vast it was. The developed areas seem to be like ribbons on a map and it’s very easy to go into deep wilderness that is regularly cut off in Winter.