*Hiring your neighbor ? *sigh*

[CuriousByNature]

I'm not sure why people are jumping all over @Ali Gator.  I also was curious after reading the original post, as my name would suggest, and I looked at the Boston listings.  Like others, I didn't find one that seemed to match.  I figured the provider either removed his add, or perhaps I wasn't searching properly.  I could have gone through all the Florida listings, but I figured if Ali wanted people to know who this guy is, he would have included his link.  It would never occur to me to contact the guy and tell him about Ali's post, but maybe Ali is wise to take that precaution.  Even if the post was fictitious, so be it.  Ali doesn't owe anyone here anything by making a post.  Just my two cents on the matter.

[LookingAround]

@Ali Gatordoesnt owe anybody anything technically, correct. But if he's jerking us around--and that's IF--I for one don't appreciate it. 
Just put Boston as a search term in this forum and see how many times @Ali Gatorcomes up and see what he says about looking for escorts in that area. 
Anyway true it doesn't matter but if it's fake I don't like being jerked around. 

Edited August 27 by LookingAround

[Ali Gator]

24 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

@Ali Gatordoesnt owe anybody anything technically, correct. But if he's jerking us around--and that's IF--I for one don't appreciate it. 
Just put Boston as a search term in this forum and see how many times @Ali Gatorcomes up and see what he says about looking for escorts in that area. 
Anyway true it doesn't matter but if it's fake I don't like being jerked around. 

If you have any doubts, then the most logical action is to skip the thread. It's that easy. Your doubts will be put to rest, and no more concerns about being 'jerked around' (my time is valuable - I don't jerk around others, nor do I participate in threads that are not in my interest).

I'm assuming you're a big boy - make some big boy decisions in your best interest. It will be interesting to see what you choose.   

[JTtorretto]

Ali Gator, have you heard of a website called Nifty.org ?  
 

Your fictional short stories about the numerous hunky shirtless boys/men in your hood “availing” themselves for your sexual pleasure are better suited posted on Nifty.org than a legitimate message board discussing escort issues/questions.  
 

“Hot neighbors son escorting” is poorly written fantasy not based on reality.  
 

Edited August 27 by JTtorretto

[LookingAround]

58 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

If you have any doubts, then the most logical action is to skip the thread. It's that easy. Your doubts will be put to rest, and no more concerns about being 'jerked around' (my time is valuable - I don't jerk around others, nor do I participate in threads that are not in my interest).

I'm assuming you're a big boy - make some big boy decisions in your best interest. It will be interesting to see what you choose.   

I am which is why I'm calling you out because I resent putting energy into offering suggestions then realizing you probably were jerking me around the whole time for your own amusement or emotional neediness. 

[polysome]

My two cents: I care less about how factual this thread 🧵 is but more focused with the end of the story 😅.

@Ali Gator don't go all GRRM on us. Let's skip to the good part! 😛

Edited August 27 by polysome

[Wings246]

On 8/26/2025 at 4:53 PM, CuriousByNature said:

Even if the post was fictitious, so be it.

I can care less if it's real.  The story is undoubtedly captivating.  People's opinions, perspectives, and advices on the issue (hypothetical or authentic) are the meat of the matter.

[polysome]

6 hours ago, Wings246 said:

I can care less if it's real.  The story is undoubtedly captivating.  People's opinions, perspectives, and advices on the issue (hypothetical or authentic) are the meat of the matter.

And the hotness and skills of the provider (real or not) in question 😛

Edited Thursday at 08:09 AM by polysome

[SometimesBi]

On 8/24/2025 at 3:53 PM, Ali Gator said:

He then says he's taking 'odd jobs' while he's here to make money, including car washing and car detailing if I'm interested. YES! So he gives me his phone number and I tell him I'll call him this week. WOW! WOW! 

Back to the OP, here's my suggestion. Set up the car wash/detail. But ALSO plan to be shirtless in shorts yourself (it'll be a hot day, right). Chat a bit as he's getting started on the car. Remember, he may have noticed your eyes wandering while he was talking to you last week. Watch to see if his eyes wander. An opportunity to have a more sexual conversation may present itself. Maybe you'll bring up RM, or maybe he will volunteer it himself (or even just let things develop all the way, and you get a freebie) 

He's on RM. He knows how to be discreet. It sounds like you are, too. I would not expect any complications with neighbors. 

[CuriousByNature]

Or, when he comes over to wash the car and asks for your hose, you can ask him to clarify which one he means... 

[DGHou]

On 8/24/2025 at 5:53 PM, Ali Gator said:

QUESTION: Is it OK to hire your younger neighbor who is advertising on RM ?

BACKGROUND : About 12 years ago, a family moved into the house diagonally across the street from me. Very nice family, very friendly, originally from PR. They have two sons - the oldest (mid-20s) was getting married (so he wasn't in the new house long), and the youngest 'Nick' was attending a local College. Nick was a young, thin man when I first met him, but you could tell he was going to be a heartbreaker as he got older...and he did. Within a few years, he muscled up and cleaned up as he headed off to find a job in marketing. I always enjoyed catching up with him outside, as he had the most penetrating eyes and beautiful smile. And in the summer, with his shirt off standing three feet away - let's just say my dick noticed him, too. 

He moved to Florida to run a car dealership for his cousin, and I always asked his parents how he was doing (as well as the married son, who became a pharma rep).  He was doing great, though neither son came home much as they both lived in Florida so it was easier for the parents to visit them during the year.

Fast Forward to this morning, I'm outside with my dog and I hear someone call out to me. Who is it but Nick, crossing over from his parent's house in nothing but white shorts. 6 feet, beautifully built chest, gorgeous tanned body, muscular arms and legs. The beautiful smile and dark wavy hair. He gives me a 'bro hug' and I almost faint right there. He tells me he's staying here for a few weeks while he considers buying a used car business up for sale, and intends to relocate here if everything goes well (he would find his own place). He's now 32 and wants to start his own business. I'm not really paying attention as he's talking because I'm studying the light trail of hair on his chest, his nipples, his small tattoo above one nipple, the tattoo on his left calf, his facial scruff, etc. WOW! He then says he's taking 'odd jobs' while he's here to make money, including car washing and car detailing if I'm interested. YES! So he gives me his phone number and I tell him I'll call him this week. WOW! WOW! 

A FEW HOURS LATER: This afternoon I'm perusing RM (I was away from it for about 10 days) and there he is - a visiting escort from Florida, in town for a couple of weeks. (Actually, his ad is listed for Boston, but 'near travel' to my city, which is where he actually is!). It is him : same tattoos, same trail of hair, same chest, etc. NO INCALLS - outcalls only (OK by me!). Different phone # than what he gave me. 

Now I plan on calling him this week to detail my car (I think he said $100, plus I'll tip him). Is it appropriate to talk to him about his RM ad, and say I'm interested ? Do I leave it alone and not risk the chance of making it awkward with a friendly neighbor (of course, he can always refuse the job offer, if he's uncomfortable) ? Oh, what to do ? (I appreciate all answers).

A dilemma indeed!  But not a bad one to have. 

[soloyo215]

On 8/24/2025 at 6:53 PM, Ali Gator said:

Now I plan on calling him this week to detail my car (I think he said $100, plus I'll tip him). Is it appropriate to talk to him about his RM ad, and say I'm interested ? Do I leave it alone and not risk the chance of making it awkward with a friendly neighbor (of course, he can always refuse the job offer, if he's uncomfortable) ? Oh, what to do ? (I appreciate all answers).

I wish that's the kind of issue I had with my neighbors.

Anyway, think about what could be the implications in case things don't work out. In past posts you have shared negative experiences with providers cancelling at the last minute, blocking you (if I remember correctly) and other similar things. How will you feel/react/handle if any of those things happen with that gentleman? Will you be OK seeing him if he stays living there?

Only you can know if you could properly handle and feel OK experiencing the worst case scenario.

Best

 

Edited Saturday at 01:55 AM by soloyo215

[LookingAround]

@Ali Gatoryou haven't returned. Let's hear from you. 

[BSR]

22 hours ago, SometimesBi said:

Back to the OP, here's my suggestion. Set up the car wash/detail. But ALSO plan to be shirtless in shorts yourself (it'll be a hot day, right). Chat a bit as he's getting started on the car. Remember, he may have noticed your eyes wandering while he was talking to you last week. Watch to see if his eyes wander. An opportunity to have a more sexual conversation may present itself. Maybe you'll bring up RM, or maybe he will volunteer it himself (or even just let things develop all the way, and you get a freebie) 

He's on RM. He knows how to be discreet. It sounds like you are, too. I would not expect any complications with neighbors. 

Why all the hinting about and beating around the bush?  The hot neighbor advertises on Rentmen!  This isn’t some secret that dare not speak its name; he’s open enough about this new gig that he’s advertising on the Internet, on the most widely used escorting website.

I would say to him, “Hey, I saw your ad on Rentmen.  If it would be awkward for you, I understand.  But if you’re OK with it, I’m definitely interested in a session.  Oh, by the way, are you fistf*cking passive?”

OK, so maybe not that last question, at least not at the get-go.

[+ SirBillybob]

19 hours ago, CuriousByNature said:

Or, when he comes over to wash the car and asks for your hose, you can ask him to clarify which one he means... 

And if that’s not enough on the nose …

[Ali Gator]

1 hour ago, BSR said:

Why all the hinting about and beating around the bush?  The hot neighbor advertises on Rentmen!  This isn’t some secret that dare not speak its name; he’s open enough about this new gig that he’s advertising on the Internet, on the most widely used escorting website.

I would say to him, “Hey, I saw your ad on Rentmen.  If it would be awkward for you, I understand.  But if you’re OK with it, I’m definitely interested in a session.  Oh, by the way, are you fistf*cking passive?”

OK, so maybe not that last question, at least not at the get-go.

Actually, that did happen (sort of) as I finally met up with him today. Finally. After waiting to hear back from him all week.

As I said earlier this week, I reached out to him via text (I ended up texting him twice) and heard nothing back all week. I left it at that - if he was interested in detailing my car, get back to me. I didn't hear from him, so I left it alone. I assumed he was busy or didn't want to do my car. No big deal.

This morning I was outside and he came across to talk to me as he pulled up in front of his house. He apologized for not getting back to me, and said he was 'visiting friends out of state' so this past week wouldn't have worked. He's around the next few days and gave me a price of $150 for detailing, which (of course) he'd do right in my driveway. I was direct with him on that, and told him I would give it more thought as the price was a little more than I thought I'd need to spend on detailing (again, maybe I'm wrong but I was thinking more $100 plus tip.) He was fine with the answer, and seemed to understand.  At that point, I figured before he turned around and went back home, I should ask him about RM - why not ? I considered all the responses here, and agreed with the fact that he's offering his services and I'm a customer looking for his services. It's called business.

'Before you go - I have one more thing to ask you...' So I told him I saw his ad, and I was interested in an appointment with him. He didn't have much of a reaction except the raised eyebrows, and just said, 'OK - Cool'  I told him I didn't need a response now, and  asked if he thought it would be awkward, and I told him I would understand if he said 'No'. He said, ' Awkward? Not at all.' He asked what I was looking for , I told him, and he said with a smile, 'I promise we'll have a good time. Let's do it! When were you thinking ?'  But before we planned a day and time, I needed to know how much he charged and asked him. He quoted me $350 which (once again) was more than I was expecting or budgeted for these encounters (we all have our $ limits). I didn't ask him to lower the price, but I did tell him that was more than what I usually pay for 'this hobby'.  He smiled and told me he was definitely worth it, and I assured him he probably was - but I couldn't do it at this time. He was understanding and told me if I changed my mind to give him a call and he'd be over. 'Nothing awkward' he assured me. He gave me his 'bro hug' and headed back to his house. It went well, overall. 

So to have him detail my car and have an hour appointment with him would set me back $500 minimum. As much as I'd love to employ him, I simply can't afford him at this time for both or either services. I may regret it in the future, but that's $500 I can spend on more important stuff right now, not a hobby or making my car sparkle.  *sigh*

[+ SirBillybob]

And just like that, …😏

Edited Saturday at 04:08 PM by SirBillybob

[+ SirBillybob]

Anybody else almost wishing for a GoFundAli? 

[BSR]

52 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

So to have him detail my car and have an hour appointment with him would set me back $500 minimum. As much as I'd love to employ him, I simply can't afford him at this time for both or either services. I may regret it in the future, but that's $500 I can spend on more important stuff right now, not a hobby or making my car sparkle.  *sigh*

The carwash around the corner from me is $9, free vacuums available.  There, you now have an additional $141 for your hiring budget.

”may regret it” … as in might? perhaps??  Hell no! as surely as the sun rises in the east, you will be punching yourself black & blue if you miss this (I’m guessing) very limited window of opportunity.  Ask him if he takes Visa, then max out your credit limit on this guy.  It might take you a decade to pay off the balance, but you’ll treasure the memories — as well as the jackoff fodder — to last a lifetime.

[polysome]

1 minute ago, BSR said:

The carwash around the corner from me is $9, free vacuums available.  There, you now have an additional $141 for your hiring budget.

”may regret it” … as in might? perhaps??  Hell no! as surely as the sun rises in the east, you will be punching yourself black & blue if you miss this (I’m guessing) very limited window of opportunity.  Ask him if he takes Visa, then max out your credit limit on this guy.  It might take you a decade to pay off the balance, but you’ll treasure the memories — as well as the jackoff fodder — to last a lifetime.

Also, who cares about the detailing - the session is the one worth paying up for!

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, Ali Gator said:

Actually, that did happen (sort of) as I finally met up with him today. Finally. After waiting to hear back from him all week.

As I said earlier this week, I reached out to him via text (I ended up texting him twice) and heard nothing back all week. I left it at that - if he was interested in detailing my car, get back to me. I didn't hear from him, so I left it alone. I assumed he was busy or didn't want to do my car. No big deal.

This morning I was outside and he came across to talk to me as he pulled up in front of his house. He apologized for not getting back to me, and said he was 'visiting friends out of state' so this past week wouldn't have worked. He's around the next few days and gave me a price of $150 for detailing, which (of course) he'd do right in my driveway. I was direct with him on that, and told him I would give it more thought as the price was a little more than I thought I'd need to spend on detailing (again, maybe I'm wrong but I was thinking more $100 plus tip.) He was fine with the answer, and seemed to understand.  At that point, I figured before he turned around and went back home, I should ask him about RM - why not ? I considered all the responses here, and agreed with the fact that he's offering his services and I'm a customer looking for his services. It's called business.

'Before you go - I have one more thing to ask you...' So I told him I saw his ad, and I was interested in an appointment with him. He didn't have much of a reaction except the raised eyebrows, and just said, 'OK - Cool'  I told him I didn't need a response now, and  asked if he thought it would be awkward, and I told him I would understand if he said 'No'. He said, ' Awkward? Not at all.' He asked what I was looking for , I told him, and he said with a smile, 'I promise we'll have a good time. Let's do it! When were you thinking ?'  But before we planned a day and time, I needed to know how much he charged and asked him. He quoted me $350 which (once again) was more than I was expecting or budgeted for these encounters (we all have our $ limits). I didn't ask him to lower the price, but I did tell him that was more than what I usually pay for 'this hobby'.  He smiled and told me he was definitely worth it, and I assured him he probably was - but I couldn't do it at this time. He was understanding and told me if I changed my mind to give him a call and he'd be over. 'Nothing awkward' he assured me. He gave me his 'bro hug' and headed back to his house. It went well, overall. 

So to have him detail my car and have an hour appointment with him would set me back $500 minimum. As much as I'd love to employ him, I simply can't afford him at this time for both or either services. I may regret it in the future, but that's $500 I can spend on more important stuff right now, not a hobby or making my car sparkle.  *sigh*

Four pages of advice, the dream scenario falls right into your lap, and you balk at $350? That’s a bargain compared to what guys charge in bigger cities. Why even approach him, let alone post, if you weren’t serious enough to follow through?

[Ali Gator]

14 minutes ago, BSR said:

The carwash around the corner from me is $9, free vacuums available.  There, you now have an additional $141 for your hiring budget.

”may regret it” … as in might? perhaps??  Hell no! as surely as the sun rises in the east, you will be punching yourself black & blue if you miss this (I’m guessing) very limited window of opportunity.  Ask him if he takes Visa, then max out your credit limit on this guy.  It might take you a decade to pay off the balance, but you’ll treasure the memories — as well as the jackoff fodder — to last a lifetime.

Car washes in my area are $12. But I was interested in having it detailed. 

As for his services, I guess $350 is the going rate in Florida, but not around here. If he can get it - good for him. 

[Ali Gator]

Just now, ApexNomad said:

Four pages of advice, the dream scenario falls right into your lap, and you balk at $350? That’s a bargain compared to what guys charge in bigger cities. Why even approach him, let alone post, if you weren’t serious enough to follow through?

This makes absolutely no sense.

He's currently not in a 'bigger city', and as we've discussed in multiple threads over the years, the provider should be in line with the market he is visiting if he's serious about making money. Otherwise he prices himself out of the market. This is true with anyone in any business. 

Who said I wasn't 'serious enough to follow through' ? I DID follow through. I had a conversation with him this morning.  I have a budget for what I can afford for this 'hobby' and he was not within budget - so I couldn't afford his services. As in any business transaction, we couldn't reach a deal.  How do you take that as not being serious ? 

Again, this response makes no sense. 

[+ ApexNomad]

8 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

This makes absolutely no sense.

He's currently not in a 'bigger city', and as we've discussed in multiple threads over the years, the provider should be in line with the market he is visiting if he's serious about making money. Otherwise he prices himself out of the market. This is true with anyone in any business. 

Who said I wasn't 'serious enough to follow through' ? I DID follow through. I had a conversation with him this morning.  I have a budget for what I can afford for this 'hobby' and he was not within budget - so I couldn't afford his services. As in any business transaction, we couldn't reach a deal.  How do you take that as not being serious ? 

Again, this response makes no sense. 

$350 is the market in plenty of places (and below in the bigger ones), and it’s not “pricing out” when others are happily paying it. What doesn’t make sense is your approach: you spun up four pages of buildup, walked straight into the fantasy scenario everyone told you to hope for (myself telling you to avoid), and it actually works beautifully, and STILL you weren’t prepared to take it (not even the car detail).

Even if it fell outside your budget (by how much by the way? $50? $100?), the whole setup screamed be ready to stretch for this one. This one is different. Instead, you tapped out. So when you say you “followed through,” what you really mean is you had a conversation and walked away. “I was serious, just not serious enough to pay the going rate.” That’s like saying you’re serious about buying a car, but your budget is $1,000. The conversation isn’t the follow-through, the booking is.

A joke!

[Ali Gator]

5 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

$350 is the market in plenty of places (and below in the bigger ones), and it’s not “pricing out” when others are happily paying it. What doesn’t make sense is your approach: you spun up four pages of buildup, walked straight into the fantasy scenario everyone told you to hope for (myself telling you to avoid), and it actually works beautifully, and STILL you weren’t prepared to take it (not even the car detail).

Even if it fell outside your budget (by how much by the way? $50? $100?), the whole setup screamed be ready to stretch for this one. This one is different. Instead, you tapped out. So when you say you “followed through,” what you really mean is you had a conversation and walked away. “I was serious, just not serious enough to pay the going rate.” That’s like saying you’re serious about buying a car, but your budget is $1,000. The conversation isn’t the follow-through, the booking is.

A joke!

More nonsense. 

Who cares if $350 is in the market for 'plenty of places' ? Doesn't concern me. $250-$300 is in the market for where he is now. You don't seem to understand the basic concepts of business. Why bother addressing the rest of your nonsense ?

Edited Saturday at 05:25 PM by Ali Gator