charmasianman Posted Wednesday at 04:42 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:42 AM I know several people who work as an escort on rentmen because I saw their profiles on the website. I am envious of them. I am a broke Asian student who can't afford to do many things outside school. I am an international student. So I seriously think of working as an escort. I am gay and it will be a good gig because I can make money while having fun. I am also a little worried about the risks. There are mainly 2 things. ○ identity. I need to upload my ID and my selfie photo for my holding my ID. This seems to be very risky. I have no plans to put my face pictures. ○ career opportunity. Im a little worried about risking a good career after school. Im concerned about losing good job opportunities after a background check. Do you think putting up a profile on rentmen can make me not able to pass employment background check? ○ am i overthinking and overanalyzing? There might be people who just offer massage or some companion experience on the website. Not everyone there is an escort. Putting up a profile doesnt necessarily translate to working as an escort. So employers might not take an issue with that. can you guys give me opinions on these? Would you upload your ID and photos? Would you risk your career? You can send me a message if you dont feel comfortable leaving a comment publicly. I wonder if there is anyone who had to go through some consequences after working as an escort in terms of career and friendship and future opportunities. If you generally like young good looking atheletic asian men, shoot me a message with your location. I love being serviced by older men. 😁😄 Thank you.
+ PhileasFogg Posted Wednesday at 05:18 AM Posted Wednesday at 05:18 AM I think higher returns always bring higher risks. Maybe it might make sense for the providers you know to share with you how they reconciled those same concerns and whether they think it’s worth the risk.
Pepper Young Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM If you're concerned about future employers finding out you escorted, then don't do it. While I personally think escorting and sex work are legitimate jobs (sex work = work), a lot of employers probably don't. But, to be honest, I'm not sure a background check will pick up on escorting, especially if you use a pseudonym and have no face pics in your profile. Let us know if you decide to post an ad! pubic_assistance and spidir 1 1
d.anders Posted Wednesday at 11:58 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:58 AM Figure out a way to submit a fake I.D. to RM. It can't be that difficult. The person who pays for the ad does not have to be the person in the ad. If you think your future might include a background check, never use your legal name for anything suspicious.
Keenan Posted Wednesday at 01:09 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:09 PM As far as identity if you aren't using face pictures it will help with identity issues. At the same time clients can and will ask for a face picture before meeting. While you can let them know not to share it once you share the picture with them you have no control over where that picture shows up. As far as career opportunities just be smart, don't attach your real name to any photos, etc... There are many other risks beyond those that come with escorting such as keeping yourself protected from potential STD and meeting with clients who could potentially be crazy and try to harm you. Make sure you screen and get an idea so you know who you are meeting with. pubic_assistance 1
spidir Posted Wednesday at 01:26 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:26 PM Welcome! I would not take the risk of losing my status as an international student or future employment for pocket money and fun. My advice is to focus on your education and choose work that you don't have to hide. + Pensant, + Vegas_Millennial, Pepper Young and 5 others 1 4 3
+ SirBillybob Posted Wednesday at 01:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:35 PM IDK but the sure thing is it gets frisky.
maninsoma Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM 25 minutes ago, spidir said: Welcome! I would not take the risk of losing my status as an international student or future employment for pocket money and fun. My advice is to focus on your education and choose work that you don't have to hide. This is especially good advice in this day and age. I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE? + m_writer, + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and 2 others 2 3
pubic_assistance Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM As a foreign student, you DO risk your immigration status if you break the rules about work, whether you're a barrista or sucking cock for cash. So THAT should be your biggest concern. As far as escorting ...you can also be in trouble with immigration under "sex trafficking" rules if youre not appropriately discreet. I would suggest you discuss with other providers who travel in and out of the country and I would also suggest you start by offering massage services first. THAT keeps one legal problem away from you while you deal with the other. Having a profile on Rentmasseur instead of Rent.men is not unusual for young guys who want a little more discretion in their life. + Vegas_Millennial and Johnrom 2
+ José Soplanucas Posted Wednesday at 03:19 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:19 PM As a foreigner student, nowadays in the US you will have more chances to be deported if you are politically active in any group critic of the US and Israel policies than if you discretely escort. Be quiet and you will be fine. pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and poppop0011 2 1
pubic_assistance Posted Wednesday at 03:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:27 PM 5 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said: As a foreigner student, nowadays in the US you will have more chances to be deported if you are politically active in any group critic of the US and Israel policies than if you discretely escort. Be quiet and you will be fine. THAT is TERRIBLE advice. Just because political activists are being targeted for deportation does NOT mean the movement against sex-trafficking has reduced, nor the authority of the IRS to go after people working in the US undocumented. Foreign students are VERY MUCH under the eye of Government for all kinds of infractions of the law today. + PhileasFogg, DMonDude and + José Soplanucas 1 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, charmasianman said: I am an international student. 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: As a foreign student, you DO risk your immigration status if you break the rules about work, whether you're a barrista or sucking cock for cash. So THAT should be your biggest concern. Make sure you have the right VISA which allows employment, and report the income and pay taxes. Remember, Al Capone was convicted for income tax fraud, not for breaking prohibition laws or running the Mafia. 12 hours ago, charmasianman said: I am gay and it will be a good gig because I can make money while having fun. Without the authorization to work for income, your best option is to enjoy sex in your 20s the best you can. While you can't take appointments for money, network in person and find men who will take you out to dinner and entertainment in exchange for sex at the end (aka, a "date", which is how women have been monetizing their inner slut for decades!). Edited Wednesday at 05:03 PM by Vegas_Millennial Spelling pubic_assistance, spidir, DMonDude and 1 other 1 2 1
DMonDude Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Considering all the great points others have made here. If i was you, what i would do to "get around" all these potential danger points is ask your friends who do escort on RentMen to put on their profiles that they offer "4 hand massage" or "can set up 3sum or groups". This tells their clients that they have friends they can bring in (also for hire) to the experience. A client would reach out to your friend through their ad, maybe ask about a group experience, and then your friend could show the potential client just some regular photos of you that are public like screenshotted from your Instagram for example. This lets the client see you, you be hired alongside your friend (which helps with physical safety when you get there), get paid in cash, all without having any hard digital evidence that ties you to your own escort account because if the only photos being shared of you are publicly available photos then you have plausible deniability if somehow a screenshot from the DM with the client leaks or whatever. pubic_assistance, + Pensant, Johnrom and 2 others 4 1
charmasianman Posted Wednesday at 04:55 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 04:55 PM Thanks for all the opinions. I honestly tried a massage job on massage webite thanks to the help of a massuer I hired for therapeutic massage. He liked me and helped me. But the problem was people who hire massuers tend to be cheap and expect to have sex paying less than 200 dollars. Which i dont like. Why bother working for people who prefer to get escort like service for way less money? I guess the clients are different on those 2 website. RM has more people who are willing to pay more while the other has more people who want to get massage and pay less for something extra. I really want to expose myself to people who are willing to spend money.... pubic_assistance 1
NJF Posted Wednesday at 07:41 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:41 PM 4 hours ago, José Soplanucas said: As a foreigner student, nowadays in the US you will have more chances to be deported if you are politically active in any group critic of the US and Israel policies than if you discretely escort. Be quiet and you will be fine. What you said is partially true. But there are always ICE agents looking for performance bonuses that depend on how many immigrants that they apprehend and deport. So escorting on a F1 visa definitely carries some risk. + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and + Pensant 2 1
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Wednesday at 10:34 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:34 PM 2 hours ago, NJF said: What you said is partially true. But there are always ICE agents looking for performance bonuses that depend on how many immigrants that they apprehend and deport. So escorting on a F1 visa definitely carries some risk. I used to be aprovider when I was young! Never had real troubles! But my clients were businessmen I met in hotels in Brussels! + Vegas_Millennial 1
pubic_assistance Posted Wednesday at 10:43 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:43 PM (edited) 19 hours ago, charmasianman said: the problem was people who hire massuers tend to be cheap and expect to have sex paying less than 200 dollars. Which i dont like. Why bother working for people who prefer to get escort like service for way less money? There are definitley men who try and get masseurs to "go all the way" and have sex for the price of a massage. But its not the RULE. I have met many masseurs over the years and many of them offered sexual services once we had already established a friendly working relationship. It never occurred to me that their additional intimate offerings should be priced the same as a massage. Even the few times I've had a massage go full service in the middle of the session . ..I was always sure to pay what I would have paid an escort, by tipping exceedingly well. Massage is often a gateway to sex services but it may require you to get those men to RETURN for a specific escort appointment instead of trying to milk a $200 massage session. Edited 12 hours ago by pubic_assistance spelling + Pensant 1
spidir Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 10 hours ago, charmasianman said: Thanks for all the opinions. I honestly tried a massage job on massage webite thanks to the help of a massuer I hired for therapeutic massage. He liked me and helped me. But the problem was people who hire massuers tend to be cheap and expect to have sex paying less than 200 dollars. Which i dont like. Why bother working for people who prefer to get escort like service for way less money? I guess the clients are different on those 2 website. RM has more people who are willing to pay more while the other has more people who want to get massage and pay less for something extra. I really want to expose myself to people who are willing to spend money.... I hire for "therapeutic" massages too! 😉 I think that you are smart to learn from a mentor and this site. If you are determined to do this, then I suggest trading services with your mentor to quickly learn how he connects and cares for others. It is not easy to be a sex worker but it is rewarding to serve others. Consistently exceed their expectations and the money will follow. 🤑 pubic_assistance 1
Simon Suraci Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Personally, I think you’re going about this line of work for the wrong reasons. Monetizing your sex life, for one. This phrase neatly summarizes the sentiment discussed in so many other threads on these forums. It just doesn’t work. A much larger number of men would do it if that’s all it took. For another, your primary interest is in the income, not meeting needs you personally are well suited to fulfill. Nothing wrong taking a fair income for delivering high value services to a willing clientele; however, it takes a lot to provide m4m services effectively and be successful. More than looks, and certainly you need experience and talent either on the massage table, in the bedroom, or both. Plus marketing and business savvy, patience, emotional maturity, boundaries, people skills, and many other soft skills. You’re going about it quite casually. This is serious work. To do it well IMHO, you need to do it for the right reasons (beyond a quick buck). This is about meeting very real human needs, not Grindr with the slight caveat of money changing hands. It takes empathy, compassion, and a selfless, service oriented mindset to do a good job. Missing these big picture items, you will likely burn out, and not succeed. Then you’re just another mediocre provider of many, the likes of which the men here pick apart mercilessly and publicly for both shallow and legitimate reasons. Then you inevitably fade into the background and quit 6-24 months after starting. Don’t be that guy. To succeed and sustain, you need to keep on your best game and continue to grow and get better. A short sighted, half ass effort in this biz is immediately apparent to everyone, from the ads you post to the first impression you impart to every new client in person. Lastly, I personally feel you are already in a much too vulnerable position being in the US on any visa, student or otherwise. It’s one thing being a US citizen and kicked out of your apartment lease because your landlord knows or suspects you are a masseur or sex worker. That sucks, but it’s quite another scale of consequence to be kicked out of the country for the same. I wouldn’t jeopardize your life. I need to refrain from saying anything further to expand this point, because it wouldn’t conform to the forum guidelines. Be careful, is all. You already have an excellent opportunity studying here doing something you presumably have a long term goal to fulfill. I would hate to see something bad happen to you or to miss out on your dreams over a quick buck side hustle your heart was never truly into in the first place. Just my take. Do what you will. If you want to do it anyway, some of the others here have already made some good points about not showing your face, not using your real name, taking steps for plausible deniability, shifting some risk onto others by tagging along on 4-hand gigs, etc. There’s more to it than all that, for instance how to properly declare your income and pay taxes, and how to set up a business entity to do so legally. In the end, it’s not always about what you are actually doing, but what Uncle Sam discovers about his missing slice of your pie that catches up to you and ruins you, but that’s a whole other subject. My advice is don’t go there. Be safe. Enjoy the incredible opportunities you already have. I too was a dirt poor college student many moons ago. I was disciplined. I budgeted. I made it work. Money won’t always be so tight. maninsoma, NJF, liubit and 10 others 5 1 1 6
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