Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?

[WorthJayson]

I was just chatting with a provider who told me on Thursday that his hourly rate was $300, which awesome. I never try to haggle rates or anything—his business, his rates. But when I told him what I was interested in, standard stuff like kissing, body contact, giving HIM oral, and ME bottoming. He bumped the rate up to $400. When I asked if he remembered telling me it was $300 before, he explained that I was making a special Boyfriend Experience request, which led to the increase. When I asked what the $300 rate entailed, he said just oral and anal. I've never had someone bump the price up a hundred bucks for what seems like really standard things that most people would like in a session. He was still nice, so this isn't a dig against him. I'm just curious: is this a normal thing? 

[jmichaeliii]

29 minutes ago, WorthJayson said:

I was just chatting with a provider who told me on Thursday that his hourly rate was $300, which awesome. I never try to haggle rates or anything—his business, his rates. But when I told him what I was interested in, standard stuff like kissing, body contact, giving HIM oral, and ME bottoming. He bumped the rate up to $400. When I asked if he remembered telling me it was $300 before, he explained that I was making a special Boyfriend Experience request, which led to the increase. When I asked what the $300 rate entailed, he said just oral and anal. I've never had someone bump the price up a hundred bucks for what seems like really standard things that most people would like in a session. He was still nice, so this isn't a dig against him. I'm just curious: is this a normal thing? 

I'll say it's not abnormal.   Especially depending on location.

If you found the ad on a rent masseur versus rentmen that would also play a role in xtras.

In my local area there are providers that do just what you mention, but after a year or so of testing the waters I have found several that like to do a lot of xtras without upcharges. 

Every provider has their own unique way of doing business.

[+ Jamie21]

Could be the inclusion of kissing. That does change the dynamic of a session.  Like you say, his rates your choice. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

Yeah, they upsell. I'd look for a model that comes with all features attached instead.

[jmichaeliii]

23 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Yeah, they upsell. I'd look for a model that comes with all features attached instead.

And they are out there!

[Yukon21]

I think this is normal. Ive typically found the price to vary depending on the services provided. Not surprized. 

[WorthJayson]

I appreciate the comments! I guess I was just thinking standard stuff that typically happens when hooking up would just be baked into the base rate (that's how it's always seemed from my many many other experiences). I could understand more if I was asking for something hyperspecialized. But as you all said, their business, their rules. No harm, no foul. 

[+ poolboy48220]

I contacted a guy asking about a mild bondage scene, he repeated the different elements I'd mentioned and I just had the image of him tallying each request up.  He came up with a very high number, I declined.

[BrooklynIrish]

What is he Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman? It's up to you, but I would not pay $100 to add kissing and snuggling. I generally lay expectations out BEFORE I ask for the rate. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

Tell him he has a choice - pucker up or get on his knees. See what he prices.

EDIT My personal favorite was this guy who said he charges $50 per kiss. I politely declined without laughing.

Edited April 6 by DrownedBoy

[Ali Gator]

What did his ad say ?  If it lists that he's into kissing, etc. then I would make the logical assumption that is included in the hourly price. If he says he's a top and and you want him to bottom, then I would assume that would be an extra charge. I don't get how these guys think any more. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

3 hours ago, Ali Gator said:

What did his ad say ?  If it lists that he's into kissing, etc. then I would make the logical assumption that is included in the hourly price. If he says he's a top and and you want him to bottom, then I would assume that would be an extra charge. I don't get how these guys think any more. 

Yup. His ad said he was into kissing.

I asked him to confirm. He said: yes, I kiss....$50 each.

Balls.

[Ali Gator]

29 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Yup. His ad said he was into kissing.

I asked him to confirm. He said: yes, I kiss....$50 each.

Balls.

Not worth hiring. 

That is like ordering a steak dinner for $30, and the menu says it comes with your choice of any vegetable and potato. So you tell the server you will have broccoli and baked potato - and then they charge you separate for each item. No, it's listed on the menu as the dinner price for $30. 

If you asked for a Caesar salad instead of a vegetable, then yes - I see an extra charge. But not what's listed in the description. No way. 

 

Move on from those guys. 

[musclvr]

On 4/5/2025 at 12:29 PM, WorthJayson said:

I was just chatting with a provider who told me on Thursday that his hourly rate was $300, which awesome. I never try to haggle rates or anything—his business, his rates. But when I told him what I was interested in, standard stuff like kissing, body contact, giving HIM oral, and ME bottoming. He bumped the rate up to $400. When I asked if he remembered telling me it was $300 before, he explained that I was making a special Boyfriend Experience request, which led to the increase. When I asked what the $300 rate entailed, he said just oral and anal. I've never had someone bump the price up a hundred bucks for what seems like really standard things that most people would like in a session. He was still nice, so this isn't a dig against him. I'm just curious: is this a normal thing? 

So he quoted you the Basic Economy fare. Then there is Economy, Economy Plus, Premium Economy, Business (non-refundable pre-pay), Business (pay after your session), and First.

Honestly, that's what it seems some of these providers try do.

And there are plenty of threads on here about dynamic pricing and free upgrades.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Another solid reminder to always communicate, tell an escort what you're looking for and then make a decision (as the OP has done here).

Nothing should be assumed or thought to be 'included' until confirmed directly.

This business varies greatly from escort to escort.  There are no industry standards and likely never will be.

Be direct so you aren't disappointed with your experience.

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

6 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Another solid reminder to always communicate, tell an escort what you're looking for and then make a decision (as the OP has done here).

Nothing should be assumed or thought to be 'included' until confirmed directly.

This business varies greatly from escort to escort.  There are no industry standards and likely never will be.

Be direct so you aren't disappointed with your experience.

 

This applies even if they do specifically list a service.

One thing - always RM messenger the escort beforehand. Then if you have a premium account, you can 1-star them if they violate the contract.

[Ali Gator]

I remember a couple of years ago, before I joined here and read reviews, I texted a very hot / sexy masseur who was visiting my area. I was interested in an erotic massage, and he quoted me a price of $200. I clearly asked him what was offered in his erotic massage, and he told me he couldn't get into details via text. I told him I was looking for us both to be nude, MT and a HE. He responded, 'Trust me, you won't be disappointed.' So I trusted and I booked.

I left disappointed. 

Yes, he was as sexy and gorgeous as his photos. Great personality. Yes, he was nude in a very darkened hotel room. Every time I went to touch him, he would move far enough away to be out of reach. Sure, my fingertips could graze his ass or his thighs, but once I went for his dick, he would change positions and move himself towards my feet. I barely saw his dick or torso / chest, never mind touch any of it. 

When it came to my HE, he let me know there was only five minutes left to our appointment and he had another appointment booked after me. How does that relax me an let my ending be a happy one ? He rushed right through it, I shot my load, and it was not pleasurable in the least.  

[+ JamesB]

4 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

One thing - always RM messenger the escort beforehand. Then if you have a premium account, you can 1-star them if they violate the contract.

 

That will only work if, and only if, the provider doesn’t block you immediately after, or even during the session. Don’t ask me how I know. 

[mike carey]

1 hour ago, JamesB said:

 

That will only work if, and only if, the provider doesn’t block you immediately after, or even during the session. Don’t ask me how I know. 

I had an escort block me a month or so back, and when I clicked on his profile it showed this:

[+ ApexNomad]

6 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Be direct so you aren't disappointed with your experience.

Agreed with everything you said. This part, though, can be hard for some. Especially inexperienced clients who may not know how to express what they want, particularly when it comes to sex.

[+ Jamie21]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

Agreed with everything you said. This part, though, can be hard for some. Especially inexperienced clients who may not know how to express what they want, particularly when it comes to sex.

People get embarrassed to ask, especially in writing. It can make it very difficult. I encourage guys to be clear because it’s not going to offend me but still they are reluctant. Perhaps they don’t want a record anywhere out of fear of lack of discretion or even getting into legal trouble in those backward countries where it’s unlawful to hire for sex (yes I’m talking about you 🇺🇸). 

I find clients can be very coy about asking. It’s difficult to guess from subtle hints and innuendo. There’s phrases that come up often such as; ‘what’s included?’ which is so open as to be pointless, ‘how erotic does it get?’ …answer: ‘It’s 4.3 on the erotic scale of course (like the Richter scale - it’s exponential 😉)’… and ‘will you be naked?’ which I translate to ‘I want to suck you’.

Then there’s the text that arrives asking ‘full service?’ (and not always with a question mark)…It is at least direct I guess. And the ‘what is the most you offer?’ or words to that effect….which gets the reply ‘what is your budget?’ (actually it doesn’t because we all know that those requests never result in a booking - they’re 99% sure to be a time waster).

Often guys are hyper respectful of massage therapy and will ask lots of questions about technique and areas of their neck / shoulders etc which are tight. We discuss what they’d like me to work on…then right at the end of all those questions they raise the elephant in the room and ask furtively ‘and how does it end?’ …I’m often tempted to say ‘I like to spoon for a short while after I’ve bred a guy’ but that’s probably over promising so I just send a ‘💦😉’ which seems to be sufficiently subtle for these ‘I’m booking a legit massage’ buyers. 

If there’s a specific activity you definitely want then you just have to ask directly. If that’s difficult, find a porn film that shows the action and send him a link - even better if your guy is in it!. I get a few clients sending me links to films I’ve done saying ‘I want this please’. It’s nice to know they’ve watched you, and as someone once said ‘a picture is worth a thousand words’.

 

[Simon Suraci]

This is abnormal. What you’re asking for is pretty standard fare. I would expect most men you contact to do what you’re requesting for their standard rate. $300 is pretty common in most areas of the US right now, excluding certain high cost metros.

There is no standard, however, and I agree with Benjamin that offerings and prices vary widely from escort to escort, so it’s important to communicate your needs and expectations.

Also read the ad carefully. Sometimes Top means exactly that. No bottoming for any price. When kissing is not listed, ask.

[jmichaeliii]

3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

People get embarrassed to ask, especially in writing. It can make it very difficult. I encourage guys to be clear because it’s not going to offend me but still they are reluctant. Perhaps they don’t want a record anywhere out of fear of lack of discretion or even getting into legal trouble in those backward countries where it’s unlawful to hire for sex (yes I’m talking about you 🇺🇸). 

I find clients can be very coy about asking. It’s difficult to guess from subtle hints and innuendo. There’s phrases that come up often such as; ‘what’s included?’ which is so open as to be pointless, ‘how erotic does it get?’ …answer: ‘It’s 4.3 on the erotic scale of course (like the Richter scale - it’s exponential 😉)’… and ‘will you be naked?’ which I translate to ‘I want to suck you’.

Then there’s the text that arrives asking ‘full service?’ (and not always with a question mark)…It is at least direct I guess. And the ‘what is the most you offer?’ or words to that effect….which gets the reply ‘what is your budget?’ (actually it doesn’t because we all know that those requests never result in a booking - they’re 99% sure to be a time waster).

Often guys are hyper respectful of massage therapy and will ask lots of questions about technique and areas of their neck / shoulders etc which are tight. We discuss what they’d like me to work on…then right at the end of all those questions they raise the elephant in the room and ask furtively ‘and how does it end?’ …I’m often tempted to say ‘I like to spoon for a short while after I’ve bred a guy’ but that’s probably over promising so I just send a ‘💦😉’ which seems to be sufficiently subtle for these ‘I’m booking a legit massage’ buyers. 

If there’s a specific activity you definitely want then you just have to ask directly. If that’s difficult, find a porn film that shows the action and send him a link - even better if your guy is in it!. I get a few clients sending me links to films I’ve done saying ‘I want this please’. It’s nice to know they’ve watched you, and as someone once said ‘a picture is worth a thousand words’.

 

It's hard to ask in writing.  I go through it too and still have a hard time with it.  I sometimes wish they could read my mind.

I have found that if I really like a provider and see them a second time, I get more of what I want because of the vibe between us.

[DznNYC]

Another case to be made for thorough pre conversations!  Being clear and thorough with your provider in advance can only serve to make sure everyone involved is on the same page walking in the room.

But jeez, this kind of a la carte pricing makes my head spin.  The only bonafide surcharges I've asked for have been for photo/video. 

[BrickBuilder]

13 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Another solid reminder to always communicate, tell an escort what you're looking for and then make a decision (as the OP has done here).

Nothing should be assumed or thought to be 'included' until confirmed directly.

This business varies greatly from escort to escort.  There are no industry standards and likely never will be.

Be direct so you aren't disappointed with your experience.

 

I can be as clear and descriptive in what activities I enjoy and still not know what the provider will do when I get responses from them like :

"Yeah"

"All that's cool"

"I'm into it all"

"Sounds good"

Responses like these tell me that the provider is not really invested in trying to meet.   When I push a bit more to try to get agreement, I hear back "this is taking too long" or "I am not into sexting without payment" or "stop wasting my time" or "are you ready to book".  

The interactions that I laugh at most are the "Vers" providers that respond with "Read my profile".  And when I do and I go "Great so you will be prepared to be fisted" (they listed fisting on their list of activities) they reply back "I only do the fisting".....OKAY dude..what else are you selective about? 

Overall I think the providers need to engage a bit more in pre-meeting discussions and be definitive on their part.....this is NOT only the responsibility of the client.