GentJ Posted November 2 Posted November 2 On 10/31/2025 at 1:22 PM, SecretProvider said: Every single time I have answered a call it has been someone jerking off. Absolutely, this! In the end, it's still a time=money thing. For a phone call, I need to drop everything for an indeterminate amount of time--Time I won't be getting paid for. And to @SecretProvider's point, there are lots of fake clients out there that are just trying to get free phone sex. My rule is I'll do ONE 15 minute call if a client really wants to get a feel for what my 'vibe' is like before committing to a booking. But that's it. Most providers I know won't even do that much. And by the way, back in the phone days, you would be calling some agency to book, probably talking to some frumpy old lady, not the provider directly. And that lady would be getting paid to answer that phone. + Vegas_Millennial 1
ShortCutie7 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 3 hours ago, GentJ said: For a phone call, I need to drop everything for an indeterminate amount of time--Time I won't be getting paid for. Exactly! I wish people who insist on phone calls would understand this concept. GentJ 1
+ Jamie21 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 I answer calls. I’ve a few regular clients who prefer to book via phone. These guys tend to be the older ones who are ‘old school’. However, it is inconvenient because often I won’t be able to answer, so it’s a missed call. Guys tend not to want to leave voice messages. So much easier to simply text or WhatsApp and I’ll respond when I’m able to. I think the other reason some guys like a call is because they can ask questions they’d be reluctant to put in a text! Rod Hagen 1
GentJ Posted November 2 Posted November 2 3 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: I think the other reason some guys like a call is because they can ask questions they’d be reluctant to put in a text! Voice isn't any more private than e2e encrypted text like WhatsApp. Basically, governments will find a way to read it if they want either way.
+ Jamie21 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 55 minutes ago, GentJ said: Voice isn't any more private than e2e encrypted text like WhatsApp. Basically, governments will find a way to read it if they want either way. I’m thinking it’s more about their partner, and so are they! Also, people are very quick to say the government is incompetent in most things yet seem absolutely confident that the government has the organisation, coordination and will to listen in to some random guys call with an escort! The government isn’t interested. At least ours isn’t because sex work is legal here. I’m sure they have other more important things to worry about. + Vegas_Millennial, mike carey and Nightowl 1 2
Simon Suraci Posted November 3 Posted November 3 3 hours ago, Jamie21 said: I answer calls. I’ve a few regular clients who prefer to book via phone. These guys tend to be the older ones who are ‘old school’. However, it is inconvenient because often I won’t be able to answer, so it’s a missed call. Guys tend not to want to leave voice messages. So much easier to simply text or WhatsApp and I’ll respond when I’m able to. I think the other reason some guys like a call is because they can ask questions they’d be reluctant to put in a text! Totally agree with what Jamie said. I answer calls, but not random unexpected ones. All I ask is for clients to schedule a mutually agreeable time for their call. Then I will pick up. It’s easy to schedule a call using text to request a time. Or email, or whatever platform they are contacting me on. If they are totally averse to written communication, they can simply leave me a voicemail and I will call them back when I am able. I leave them a voicemail when they can’t take my call right away. I don’t understand why this is so complicated. I think part of the problem is that some clients expect us to be available at any time they want. We aren’t. mike carey 1
GentJ Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said: I don’t understand why this is so complicated. I think part of the problem is that some clients expect us to be available at any time they want. We aren’t. It really is the only job I can think of where people expect you to be on-call ALL THE TIME. Even ER doctors are only on the hook for a defined period of time where they can be called in. Simon Suraci and + Jamie21 1 1
Wings246 Posted Wednesday at 02:19 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:19 AM On 11/2/2025 at 7:51 AM, GentJ said: My rule is I'll do ONE 15 minute call if a client really wants to get a feel for what my 'vibe' is like before committing to a booking. Wow??? 15 minutes?????? You are exceedingly generous. That's a quarter of your hourly work. I'm not sure what your rate is, but I assume -- based on typical NYC rates -- it will come close to $100, right? I just don't quite understand why people have zero respect for the concept of opportunity cost. Didn't we all learn that in elementary school? GentJ 1
GentJ Posted Wednesday at 02:26 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:26 AM 6 minutes ago, Wings246 said: Wow??? 15 minutes?????? You are exceedingly generous. That's a quarter of your hourly work. I'm not sure what your rate is, but I assume -- based on typical NYC rates -- it will come close to $100, right? I just don't quite understand why people have zero respect for the concept of opportunity cost. Didn't we all learn that in elementary school? Yeah well, or maybe I'm just new and dumb. But I really do wanna find clients that want more than just the physical. + nycman 1
Wings246 Posted Wednesday at 02:32 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:32 AM On 11/2/2025 at 10:58 AM, ShortCutie7 said: Exactly! I wish people who insist on phone calls would understand this concept. I can't agree more with all those who express hatred/disgust/annoyance towards phone (voice) calls. It's intrusive to say the least. Phone/Voice call is like showing up at someone's home, ringing the doorbell without prior notice. It demands the receiver's immediately attention. In a way, the caller violently forces the receiver to drop everything he's doing and re-prioritize his daily tasks. It's not any different from cutting in line in a grocery store. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule (e.g. a true emergency such as 911). Otherwise, as others have pointed out already, isn't it more polite to send a text to make a phone/voice call appointment in advance? JB_Studio38, GentJ, Nightowl and 1 other 1 3
DznNYC Posted Wednesday at 06:07 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:07 PM Does anyone remember Philip Seymour Hoffman in the movie HAPPINESS? If not, do yourself a favor and watch it. It’s an amazing film. Literally every client who’s called me has been that dude. Full-on 100%. None of them has even been good at pretending they were serious about hiring. SecretProvider and GentJ 1 1
SecretProvider Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:32 PM 19 hours ago, GentJ said: Yeah well, or maybe I'm just new and dumb. my advice would be: you are going to be taken advantage of with this, set up unrealistic expectations with clients for the rest of us, and it is not going to get you better or more clients. Don't do it. x GentJ and Rod Hagen 1 1
SecretProvider Posted Wednesday at 09:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:33 PM 3 hours ago, DznNYC said: Does anyone remember Philip Seymour Hoffman in the movie HAPPINESS? If not, do yourself a favor and watch it. It’s an amazing film. Literally every client who’s called me has been that dude. Full-on 100%. None of them has even been good at pretending they were serious about hiring. Correct.
GentJ Posted Thursday at 02:55 PM Posted Thursday at 02:55 PM On 11/4/2025 at 9:32 PM, Wings246 said: I can't agree more with all those who express hatred/disgust/annoyance towards phone (voice) calls. It's intrusive to say the least. Phone/Voice call is like showing up at someone's home, ringing the doorbell without prior notice. It demands the receiver's immediately attention. In a way, the caller violently forces the receiver to drop everything he's doing and re-prioritize his daily tasks. It's not any different from cutting in line in a grocery store. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule (e.g. a true emergency such as 911). Otherwise, as others have pointed out already, isn't it more polite to send a text to make a phone/voice call appointment in advance? You're right, I never thought about how calling someone now with no warning, is like just showing up at someone's house was 20 years ago. And repeatedly calling is like pounding on the door! Technology has changed the social custom around that (not every generation agrees to what extent it has). But like 150+ years ago, it was pretty normal to just show up at someone's place, right? Pemberley was 'Open For Visitors" 😄
mike carey Posted Thursday at 03:33 PM Posted Thursday at 03:33 PM 35 minutes ago, GentJ said: Pemberley was 'Open For Visitors' Well, one would hope to be able to visit Mr D'Arcy unannounced. GentJ 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Thursday at 03:47 PM Posted Thursday at 03:47 PM (edited) 51 minutes ago, GentJ said: But like 150+ years ago, it was pretty normal to just show up at someone's place, right? 150 years ago, people carried "calling cards" (similar to business cards). When you showed up at someone's door, you asked the servants (middle class had servants until electricity did away with them in the 1920s) if the lady or man of the house was available. If not, you left your calling card in a silver tray in the front entrance. You may have written what the call was regarding on the back of the card. When the lady or man of the house or returned, she or he would look through the tray and see who came calling and decide whose calls to return by visiting them or waiting for them to call again. Sometimes, the caller would write the time they expect to return on the back of the calling card, so the lady or man of the house could have the option to stay and wait if they wanted to speak to the caller when he or she returned. Edited Thursday at 03:49 PM by Vegas_Millennial liubit 1
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