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On 12/19/2024 at 3:10 PM, DWsoccer said:

That's exactly my point.  Daniel Penny didn't "get away with" anything, good looks or otherwise.  He had altruistic motives, not evil ones.  The more you make excuses for bad behavior and propagandize victimhood, the worse society becomes.  This is relevant to this discussion, because acknowledging Daniel Penny as attractive, if one does, is not a "criminal fetish" as it is with Luigi whatever his last name is.

Both men are very, very attractive!  Both of their victims were harmful to others (albeit in different ways). The difference for me lies in their intentions- Mangione woke up that day with the intent to kill someone; Penny did not.  Mangione’s actions were 100% intentional and premeditated; Penny’s were circumstantial.

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On 12/22/2024 at 11:40 PM, ShortCutie7 said:

Both men are very, very attractive!  Both of their victims were harmful to others (albeit in different ways). The difference for me lies in their intentions- Mangione woke up that day with the intent to kill someone; Penny did not.  Mangione’s actions were 100% intentional and premeditated; Penny’s were circumstantial.

The CEO was harmful to others?

 

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On 12/19/2024 at 3:10 PM, DWsoccer said:

That's exactly my point.  Daniel Penny didn't "get away with" anything, good looks or otherwise.  He had altruistic motives, not evil ones.  The more you make excuses for bad behavior and propagandize victimhood, the worse society becomes.  This is relevant to this discussion, because acknowledging Daniel Penny as attractive, if one does, is not a "criminal fetish" as it is with Luigi whatever his last name is.

Me making excuses for bad behavior? I've used the word "drug addict" multiple times in this forum, I've called HIV an easy preventable behavioral disease, but I will never mock a "degenerate" (as you called him) who was choked to death. 

I have a feeling there's some schadenfreude going on here and some folks really enjoy seeing a skinny homeless man. To some folks gay men like you and me are also "degenerate".  

You can have the last word, but can you please show some respect for folks suffering from mental health, homelessness, etc.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, ShortCutie7 said:

Yes, isn’t that a main component of the premise of the support for Mangione?  Wouldn’t the CEO be responsible for people being denied healthcare and thus suffering and/or dying?

Absolutely.

Brian Thompson made $10M in personal compensation and Billions for UHC by figuring out new ways to deny claims to its clients, who's lives depend on access to Healthcare and who are paying customers.

There is nothing really redeeming you can say about the guy. He was up on criminal charges for insider trading, part of an investigation for spearheading a increase in denying thousands of UHC claims, and has been separated from his wife and children for years. Multiple drunk driving violations and a long history of being verbally abusive.

He's the poster boy for evil executive.

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2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Absolutely.

Brian Thompson made $10M in personal compensation and Billions for UHC by figuring out new ways to deny claims to its clients, who's lives depend on access to Healthcare and who are paying customers.

There is nothing really redeeming you can say about the guy. He was up on criminal charges for insider trading, part of an investigation for spearheading a increase in denying thousands of UHC claims, and has been separated from his wife and children for years. Multiple drunk driving violations and a long history of being verbally abusive.

He's the poster boy for evil executive.

I know there's controversy whether he actually said it or not but none the less.....

 

 

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Ok I should get this back to topic .

I met a provider who did a Luigi Mangione impression in bed 😂

The provider was one of those left wing SJW Marxist types. He had been following Mangione online constantly since the murder, and even believed some of the more absurd conspiracy theories.

He tried getting on top of me and talking about how he planned to plug the CEO. I think he got 30 seconds in before we both broke down laughing at how ridiculous it was 😆😆

However, if he refines his technique - and his apparel - he might pull it off. Enough gay men want Luigi.

 

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6 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Me making excuses for bad behavior? I've used the word "drug addict" multiple times in this forum, I've called HIV an easy preventable behavioral disease, but I will never mock a "degenerate" (as you called him) who was choked to death. 

I have a feeling there's some schadenfreude going on here and some folks really enjoy seeing a skinny homeless man. To some folks gay men like you and me are also "degenerate".  

You can have the last word, but can you please show some respect for folks suffering from mental health, homelessness, etc.

 

Yes, you were making excuses for bad behavior.  He was mentally ill, he had a drug problem, he was homeless.........yes, these are all sad conditions, but none of them excuse his multitude of crimes against a number of people throughout his life.  EVERYONE has problems.  Some people address them, and others take the easy path.  Some are better equipped to deal with problems than others, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

At no point did I ever "mock" the man who died on the subway, nor do I take pleasure in anyone's death, as you alleged.  I have no idea where you got that idea.  I simply pointed out the huge difference between the two people who were responsible for the victims' deaths.

I will never excuse people who put others in danger, regardless of their sob story or background.  There is never an excuse.

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4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Absolutely.

Brian Thompson made $10M in personal compensation and Billions for UHC by figuring out new ways to deny claims to its clients, who's lives depend on access to Healthcare and who are paying customers.

There is nothing really redeeming you can say about the guy. He was up on criminal charges for insider trading, part of an investigation for spearheading a increase in denying thousands of UHC claims, and has been separated from his wife and children for years. Multiple drunk driving violations and a long history of being verbally abusive.

He's the poster boy for evil executive.

 

That is very well said, and I totally agree. What you say is factually correct.

Let me say that I do not approve of any killing and do oppose the death penalty for this reason, which is a barbaric act eliminated in most, if not all civilized countries - except the USA

But ,,,, But, Brian Thompson was nothing but an American Adolph Hitler, responsible for the suffering and, ultimately, killing hundreds, if not thousands of his customers.

The question you need to ask yourself is - if given a chance, would you blow Adolph Hitler and his cronies to pieces?

 

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25 minutes ago, DWsoccer said:

Yes, you were making excuses for bad behavior.  He was mentally ill, he had a drug problem, he was homeless.........yes, these are all sad conditions, but none of them excuse his multitude of crimes against a number of people throughout his life.  EVERYONE has problems.  Some people address them, and others take the easy path.  Some are better equipped to deal with problems than others, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

At no point did I ever "mock" the man who died on the subway, nor do I take pleasure in anyone's death, as you alleged.  I have no idea where you got that idea.  I simply pointed out the huge difference between the two people who were responsible for the victims' deaths.

I will never excuse people who put others in danger, regardless of their sob story or background.  There is never an excuse.

Judgy!

I guess he didn't "address" those problems according to you, judgy again!

Would you blame Eric Gardner for being fat and asthmatic? The choke hold didn't kill him, those conditions did according to the judge.

 

Posted
6 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Judgy!

I guess he didn't "address" those problems according to you, judgy again!

Would you blame Eric Gardner for being fat and asthmatic? The choke hold didn't kill him, those conditions did according to the judge.

 

Not "judgy" - factual.  You just say "judgy" because you give excuses for everyone to be a victim and seem to have little regard for personal accountability.

Re: Eric Gardner.  Yes, he should have taken measures to not be so overweight.  As well, he shouldn't have been engaged in illegal activities.  Did he deserve to die?  Absolutely not.  But he put himself in that position.

Posted
2 hours ago, DWsoccer said:

Not "judgy" - factual.  You just say "judgy" because you give excuses for everyone to be a victim and seem to have little regard for personal accountability.

Re: Eric Gardner.  Yes, he should have taken measures to not be so overweight.  As well, he shouldn't have been engaged in illegal activities.  Did he deserve to die?  Absolutely not.  But he put himself in that position.

Schadenfreude

😲 

Next time we talk about obesity hopefully you'll post about it.

 

Posted (edited)

Mangione and Penny are two very disparate individuals.

Luigi Mangione is a coward; a cold blooded murderer.

Daniel Penny is a patriot and a hero. A patriot for stepping up and volunteering to serve in the military. We should never forget it is thanks to Daniel Penny, and those like him, that we enjoy the rights and freedoms that so many take for granted... but shouldn't! Penny served his country honorably to defend the rights and freedoms for every American, even for those  whose opinions we find to be vile and abhorrent.
Penny was a hero to EVERY person on that subway car. He is also a hero to millions of NYC subway riders who take mass transit every day, not because they want to, but because they have to. These are folks, by and large, who work hard, follow the law, and only want to get to their jobs and back home to their families safely. Neely was a drug addled, homeless degenerate. He was threatening every person on that train. His absence will not be missed. In fact, it should be applauded.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. 

BTC

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