Ali Gator Posted November 28 Posted November 28 Last night, one of my favorite masseurs was in town, so I made an appointment with him. This was probably the fourth or fifth visit in the past two years. I always book erotic with him for $225. Being my birthday this weekend, I wanted to treat myself to a great erotic massage with a lot of interaction, which this guy always provided. When I showed up at his hotel room, I noticed he now had a pierced bottom lip which looked 'odd' on him (he's in his 30s, and it just threw his looks off). Also, he had a bandaid on his penis. I asked him what happened and he said he cut himself shaving earlier that day. Not only did that take away from the aesthetic of his beautiful cock, but I realized it was going to be impossible to masturbate him (as I always do as part of the erotic component, while he finishes me off). I mentioned this to him, and he just laughed. Funny thing is, I wonder if he just stuck that on him for me not to touch him, or he really did 'cut himself'. So overall, the massage was a good therapeutic with some sensual elements and a happy ending. When it came time to pay with Venmo, I said out loud 'You charge $170 for a sensual massage, correct ?' I took him off-guard, he said something with a laugh, and I Venmoed him $170. He didn't say anything. I think this was my last time with him - 2025 is around the corner, and it's time I 'cleaned house' and look for some new masseurs. + DrownedBoy, cany10011, Whippoorwill and 6 others 1 2 4 1 1
marylander1940 Posted November 28 Posted November 28 43 minutes ago, Ali Gator said: Last night, one of my favorite masseurs was in town, so I made an appointment with him. This was probably the fourth or fifth visit in the past two years. I always book erotic with him for $225. Being my birthday this weekend, I wanted to treat myself to a great erotic massage with a lot of interaction, which this guy always provided. When I showed up at his hotel room, I noticed he now had a pierced bottom lip which looked 'odd' on him (he's in his 30s, and it just threw his looks off). Also, he had a bandaid on his penis. I asked him what happened and he said he cut himself shaving earlier that day. Not only did that take away from the aesthetic of his beautiful cock, but I realized it was going to be impossible to masturbate him (as I always do as part of the erotic component, while he finishes me off). I mentioned this to him, and he just laughed. Funny thing is, I wonder if he just stuck that on him for me not to touch him, or he really did 'cut himself'. So overall, the massage was a good therapeutic with some sensual elements and a happy ending. When it came time to pay with Venmo, I said out loud 'You charge $170 for a sensual massage, correct ?' I took him off-guard, he said something with a laugh, and I Venmoed him $170. He didn't say anything. I think this was my last time with him - 2025 is around the corner, and it's time I 'cleaned house' and look for some new masseurs. a band-aid on his dick? I would have walked away... what if it was something other than a "cut while shaving"? + DrownedBoy, Saabster, Redwine56 and 4 others 4 1 3
SirBillybob Posted November 28 Posted November 28 (edited) Still, sucking himself while shaving, impressive flexibility and time management, if not perfect dexterity. Edited November 28 by SirBillybob marylander1940 1
ApexNomad Posted November 29 Posted November 29 6 hours ago, Ali Gator said: Last night, one of my favorite masseurs was in town, so I made an appointment with him. This was probably the fourth or fifth visit in the past two years. I always book erotic with him for $225. Being my birthday this weekend, I wanted to treat myself to a great erotic massage with a lot of interaction, which this guy always provided. When I showed up at his hotel room, I noticed he now had a pierced bottom lip which looked 'odd' on him (he's in his 30s, and it just threw his looks off). Also, he had a bandaid on his penis. I asked him what happened and he said he cut himself shaving earlier that day. Not only did that take away from the aesthetic of his beautiful cock, but I realized it was going to be impossible to masturbate him (as I always do as part of the erotic component, while he finishes me off). I mentioned this to him, and he just laughed. Funny thing is, I wonder if he just stuck that on him for me not to touch him, or he really did 'cut himself'. So overall, the massage was a good therapeutic with some sensual elements and a happy ending. When it came time to pay with Venmo, I said out loud 'You charge $170 for a sensual massage, correct ?' I took him off-guard, he said something with a laugh, and I Venmoed him $170. He didn't say anything. I think this was my last time with him - 2025 is around the corner, and it's time I 'cleaned house' and look for some new masseurs. You’ve had four or five great appointments with someone you’ve described as one of your favorites. Maybe it’s worth revisiting after the dust settles? If you trust him and you’ve developed a rapport, maybe it’s worth trying again? In the meantime, definitely explore your options. Happy birthday! starman05, Ali Gator, big-n-tall and 4 others 4 3
Ali Gator Posted November 29 Author Posted November 29 21 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: You’ve had four or five great appointments with someone you’ve described as one of your favorites. Maybe it’s worth revisiting after the dust settles? If you trust him and you’ve developed a rapport, maybe it’s worth trying again? In the meantime, definitely explore your options. Happy birthday! I think with the lip ring and the band aid, it just set he whole appointment off kilter. I couldn't wait for it to end. ApexNomad, pubic_assistance and Whippoorwill 1 1 1
marylander1940 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 2 hours ago, Ali Gator said: I think with the lip ring and the band aid, it just set he whole appointment off kilter. I couldn't wait for it to end. Does he show his face the way he looks now with the lip ring in his ad? I remember an escort visiting from New York 20 years ago before beards were popular, and from one day to another he shaved his lumbersexual style beard not knowing it was a main thing attracting guys to him.
BuffaloKyle Posted November 29 Posted November 29 Glad you didn't pony up the erotic session fee and just did the sensual fee. Time to move on indeed it sounds like. Ali Gator 1
ReynST Posted November 29 Posted November 29 I understand choosing not to go to him again, but paying him less after the session is over because you feel cheated out for not being able to jerk him off seems bizarre to me. He really may have cut himself OR that's simply not a part of his erotic session and you've been overstepping this entire time. He doesn't style his face or penis for you and I get it if the massage didn't live up to your erotic standards, but you weren't cheated out of anything. He was obviously naked, gave you a "good" massage with happy ending and you could've touched him in any other location. Sounds like you both dodged bullets + KensingtonHomo, thomas, Moke and 5 others 8
dbar123 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 Life is short. Sometimes you just have to move on. Nothing ever lasts forever pubic_assistance, Whippoorwill, + nycman and 2 others 1 4
+ purplekow Posted November 29 Posted November 29 If it did not make you happy even with a happy ending then this should be your happy ending. I agree the only piercing I want is piercing eyes and it seems a band aid wont fix your feelings about him. Redwine56, SirBillybob, PhileasFogg and 2 others 4 1
PhileasFogg Posted November 29 Posted November 29 I guess now I know the difference between sensual and erotic? Always wondered peter831 and Whippoorwill 1 1
soloyo215 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 (edited) 19 hours ago, Ali Gator said: Last night, one of my favorite masseurs was in town, so I made an appointment with him. This was probably the fourth or fifth visit in the past two years. I always book erotic with him for $225. Being my birthday this weekend, I wanted to treat myself to a great erotic massage with a lot of interaction, which this guy always provided. When I showed up at his hotel room, I noticed he now had a pierced bottom lip which looked 'odd' on him (he's in his 30s, and it just threw his looks off). Also, he had a bandaid on his penis. I asked him what happened and he said he cut himself shaving earlier that day. Not only did that take away from the aesthetic of his beautiful cock, but I realized it was going to be impossible to masturbate him (as I always do as part of the erotic component, while he finishes me off). I mentioned this to him, and he just laughed. Funny thing is, I wonder if he just stuck that on him for me not to touch him, or he really did 'cut himself'. So overall, the massage was a good therapeutic with some sensual elements and a happy ending. When it came time to pay with Venmo, I said out loud 'You charge $170 for a sensual massage, correct ?' I took him off-guard, he said something with a laugh, and I Venmoed him $170. He didn't say anything. I think this was my last time with him - 2025 is around the corner, and it's time I 'cleaned house' and look for some new masseurs. Happy birthday. Sorry you didn't enjoy the experience. I prefer not to comment on anything else, as there seem to be some things that might or might not be fabricated for avoiding giving the full service that you expected, and some things seem more out of your personal preference. 2025 might be a good time to start exploring new people. Best. Edited November 29 by soloyo215
SirBillybob Posted November 29 Posted November 29 5 hours ago, purplekow said: I agree the only piercing I want is piercing eyes Especially a nose ring making you stand out too much from the herd. + purplekow and marylander1940 1 1
marylander1940 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 3 hours ago, PhileasFogg said: I guess now I know the difference between sensual and erotic? Always wondered Plenty of threads on the subject. To me a massage is a massage but some want to go into escort territory: jerking off, oral, anal, etc.
+ JamesB Posted November 29 Posted November 29 7 hours ago, dbar123 said: Life is short. Sometimes you just have to move on. Nothing ever lasts forever So much truth packed into so few words. Redwine56, InChiTown, + nycman and 1 other 1 3
Ali Gator Posted November 29 Author Posted November 29 17 hours ago, ReynST said: I understand choosing not to go to him again, but paying him less after the session is over because you feel cheated out for not being able to jerk him off seems bizarre to me. I don't know if I would say 'cheated', more 'disappointed'. I paid him for what he delivered - a sensual massage, not an erotic massage for whatever reasons he had. If I go to a restaurant and order a $25 turkey dinner, and the server brings me a $12 turkey sandwich instead because they sold out of turkey dinners, I'm disappointed - not cheated. And I'm not paying $25 for the sandwich just because I originally ordered the dinner. Doesn't make sense. And I don't think the server would expect me to do so. So if he's a 'professional' I should expect he would realize he's getting paid for a 'sensual' massage since he couldn't deliver the 'erotic' massage. DWsoccer, + DrownedBoy and Saabster 1 2
Ali Gator Posted November 29 Author Posted November 29 20 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Does he show his face the way he looks now with the lip ring in his ad? Nope. (And I didn't mention the lip ring at all). marylander1940 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted November 30 Posted November 30 (edited) If he's really someone you trust and like, this is a convo you should be having with him. You did indeed get what you paid for. Life happens. You pivot. You endure. Edited November 30 by BenjaminNicholas + nycman, + Just Sayin, marylander1940 and 1 other 1 3
marylander1940 Posted November 30 Posted November 30 12 minutes ago, Ali Gator said: Nope. (And I didn't mention the lip ring at all). Was kissing and he giving you head part of the usual erotic massage?
Moke Posted November 30 Posted November 30 Who are we talking about? I missed the link + Vegas_Millennial and marylander1940 1 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted November 30 Posted November 30 10 hours ago, Thelatin said: $55.00 Yes. The "erotic" massage cost 55 more than the "sensual" massage. And as far as I'm concerned, it was fair to deduct that. He came to the session unable to perform an erotic massage similar to the one you established already. I don't like lip piercings either, and that's a valid preference for not hiring someone. pubic_assistance 1
marylander1940 Posted November 30 Posted November 30 6 hours ago, Moke said: Who are we talking about? I missed the link No link was given by the OP @Ali Gator
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted November 30 Posted November 30 4 hours ago, marylander1940 said: No link was given by the OP @Ali Gator Which was a singular classy move by the op. We don't need the usual suspects to dogpile on this guy. + DrownedBoy, ReynST, pubic_assistance and 3 others 3 1 2
d.anders Posted November 30 Posted November 30 (edited) I agree, you pay for the service you get, not the service you booked but did not receive. I'm an anti-piercing guy. I can barely deal with tattoos. If I had a relationship with a masseur, and the service included kissing, and then one day I show up to find a piercing in his lip, I would probably throw up. For me, that would be a very negative surprise, a total turn-off. If mutual touch was also part of the past experience, and the guy arrives with a band aid on his cock without saying anything about it before he arrives, then I would classify that as unprofessional. I would see this appointment as a pure money-grab, with no respect for the former client, whatsoever. This behavior is a good reason to move on. As others have noted, nothing terrific lasts forever, especially when it comes to this kind of service. Edited November 30 by d.anders peter831, + DrownedBoy and Saabster 1 2
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