Clients don’t know their schedule?!

[TallMuscl37]

On 11/26/2024 at 6:54 AM, ApexNomad said:

I hear what you’re saying about valuing gestures of real support over just words, and I get how that sentiment comes from lived experiences where advice might have felt empty or unhelpful. But I’d like to offer a different perspective on this idea.

Sometimes, it’s precisely when we feel like others can’t directly solve our problems—or when their support doesn’t come in tangible forms like paying bills—that we need to lean into the advice being offered. Not all advice is created equal, of course, but dismissing it based on whether someone’s materially invested in your life could mean missing out on insights that might resonate or help.

We don’t always get the messages we need in the ways we want to hear them. Sometimes, those who can’t walk in your shoes still see a path you might not have noticed yet. And it’s not about someone thinking they know better—it’s about caring enough to offer a perspective you can consider, reject, or adapt to your reality.

Advice doesn’t have to come from someone who pays your bills to be valuable. Often, it’s the people who can’t “do” much for us who end up saying exactly what we need to hear. Consider moving some of your frustrations offline, away from a group that’s mostly made up of clients. I offer my thoughts in that spirit—with respect for your experience and a belief in your ability to keep thriving.

 

In regards to your reply…I didn’t want to leave it unnoticed:

My whole thing is: there’s often an ideology where the provider gets the blame for the actions of shitty acting clients. Advice is okay, when it comes with substance and works.

When you say “pay my bills”, it’s not so much that I’m asking to pay bills. But moreso, can that person who’s giving such advice be willing to make it work by contributing anything? If not, don’t tell me what I need or don’t need to do.

For example: people can say: oh move to that city, so you can get more clients (New York/Los Angeles). But how’s someone able to make a move like that? I know 2 people who are living in California (Likely the most expensive state in the union) now, but they were able to do it because they had someone: whether family or a person already established to move in with. That stepping stone is a necessity in some cases.

Or others can say: be nice and more understanding to clients, don’t take deposits/charge cancel/consultation fees. Okay…. So what happens when that person spends their money on a RentMen ad, pays for a hotel, etc: and then nobody shows up when expected? That’s money lost, is that person who’s saying “don’t do this, don’t do that” going to be willing to front $250 in hotel/ads/gas PLUS the rate they lost, because someone told them not to take deposits?

Is that someone also going to pay the escort their fee, if they for example: plan time with a client who flakes on them, as I shown below (and I didn’t fall for his shit because he never paid a deposit, so I never scheduled him).

The green means he likely blocked me. Which is no surprise considering he’s a liar:

It’s stuff like this why I ask for consultations. They waste time bullshitting, which costs me time and energy, and then they don’t show up or keep their word. That’s exactly why I have to ask for them. And I’ve told RentMen: start making these people pay us $5 - $10 - $20 to get in contact. We shouldn’t have to rely on someone following thru, to get paid.

 

On 11/26/2024 at 6:56 AM, Ali Gator said:

Here's where I am really confused, so I will ask the question:  As a sex worker, how and why are you actually 'consulting' your client ?  What problem is the client presenting to you, which you will give professional advice on how to solve it, and how (in some detail) you plan to reach that goal of solving it for him ? 

That's why I'm saying the wording of 'consultation' is being tossed around like confetti by providers. I'm guessing (again, 'guessing' - not assuming or accusing) they may think it makes them sound more 'professional' or 'respected' as a businessman, but they are using this word incorrectly.

I would also guess that if a client is having a sexual problem, they would probably consult with a sex therapist to solve the problem (and that would come with a free consultation of presenting the problem and the plan to solve it) before going to a sex provider to solve the problem.

See above. Everything about a consultation is explained there…

Edited December 5, 2024 by TallMuscl37

[MikeBiDude]

1 hour ago, TallMuscl37 said:

I’ve told RentMen: start making these people pay us $5 - $10 - $20 to get in contact.

I doubt RM is going to jump on your business model suggestion. 

[TallMuscl37]

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

I doubt RM is going to jump on your business model suggestion. 

Well I should clarify : I “suggested” it could be helpfully…versus told. If not monetary, in the form of credits to our ad payments/platinum boosts and such. 

It’s possible but, they’d have to do extra steps to ensure advertisers are legit. And of course it would involve processing a lot of payments. But that could be resolved in ways also, e.g.: buy 20 credits and contact 10 escorts.

One could argue that would “ruin” things, but RentMen/Masseur has had such a shit ton of liars and Timewasters over the past year. It’s at the point, I don’t even show my number anymore unless the client is signed up. Just like the example I showed above. Now I have to start asking for their screenname. If and when I allowed myself to be “user friendly and easy”, it’s just too much output with not enough Input

Regardless if RentMen hops on the suggestion or not, I’m going to do what I need to do either way.

Edited December 5, 2024 by TallMuscl37

[+ Jamie21]

In any situation the person with the greatest flexibility in thinking is the most likely to succeed. 

Think about that in the context of the debates above. 
 

 

[+ nycman]

1 hour ago, TallMuscl37 said:

And of course it would involve processing a lot of payments.

Actually, I don’t think there would be very many payments to process. 

[+ ApexNomad]

15 hours ago, TallMuscl37 said:

 

In regards to your reply…I didn’t want to leave it unnoticed:

My whole thing is: there’s often an ideology where the provider gets the blame for the actions of shitty acting clients. Advice is okay, when it comes with substance and works.

When you say “pay my bills”, it’s not so much that I’m asking to pay bills. But moreso, can that person who’s giving such advice be willing to make it work by contributing anything? If not, don’t tell me what I need or don’t need to do.

For example: people can say: oh move to that city, so you can get more clients (New York/Los Angeles). But how’s someone able to make a move like that? I know 2 people who are living in California (Likely the most expensive state in the union) now, but they were able to do it because they had someone: whether family or a person already established to move in with. That stepping stone is a necessity in some cases.

Or others can say: be nice and more understanding to clients, don’t take deposits/charge cancel/consultation fees. Okay…. So what happens when that person spends their money on a RentMen ad, pays for a hotel, etc: and then nobody shows up when expected? That’s money lost, is that person who’s saying “don’t do this, don’t do that” going to be willing to front $250 in hotel/ads/gas PLUS the rate they lost, because someone told them not to take deposits?

Is that someone also going to pay the escort their fee, if they for example: plan time with a client who flakes on them, as I shown below (and I didn’t fall for his shit because he never paid a deposit, so I never scheduled him).

The green means he likely blocked me. Which is no surprise considering he’s a liar:

It’s stuff like this why I ask for consultations. They waste time bullshitting, which costs me time and energy, and then they don’t show up or keep their word. That’s exactly why I have to ask for them. And I’ve told RentMen: start making these people pay us $5 - $10 - $20 to get in contact. We shouldn’t have to rely on someone following thru, to get paid.

 

See above. Everything about a consultation is explained there…

I hear your points and appreciate the context. My intention was to offer a perspective with respect and care. I hope you find fulfillment and happiness in your work—you deserve it.

[Dallas Jayson]

On 11/20/2024 at 7:57 PM, Ethan Woods said:

the issue is that I asked an open-ended question on purpose and they deflected. it’s THEIR appointment, that THEY should set according to THEIR preference. 

Would you call up a restaurant looking for a reservation “anytime” or do you throw out some options since you’re the customer?

While I understand your thought, if you can't do 3:15pm, are you ok with people hanging up and choosing another restaurant? 

I have asked for many providers if they are available between 1pm and 3pm, only to get an endless list of times that are NOT the time I asked for.  I understand stand providers asking for their time to be respected and in turn expect the same consideration for my work, travel, etc.