Making an offer instead of asking for rate?

[marylander1940]

Hi, would you take $230 for an in call at your place? 

Now.... are we implying lowballing? 

 

Edited September 30, 2024 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, Thelatin said:

Rather than ask a rate - there is the option of making an offer.  I’ve used that successfully in the past. 

Inspired by @Thelatin 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I've made offers years in the past, but only "standard" offers, not low-ball ones. But very rarely.

I do make offers if someone gives me an hourly rate. I offer them more (but not double) for a 2 hour visit. Providers tend to welcome these offers 

 

[56harrisond]

There are two circumstances where I'll make an offer. 1) generally a provider will have established dates for an hour/two hours and overnight. If I hire for longer duration of time than those options, I'll make an offer based on their rates. 2) I'm always able to pay the full rate in cash, but if a provider (who I've already met at least once) wants payment in advance of meeting, then I'll send $ early but at a 5-10% discount.

[BuffaloKyle]

If you're going to make an offer I think you'd have the best luck if you are wanting an appt right that moment. Then if a provider has had no inquiries that day besides yours the chance to earn either no money or less money than usual probably would seem to lead to some providers taking your offer.

[Danny-Darko]

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Hi, would you take $230 for an in call at your place? 

Now.... are we implying lowballing? 

 

Since you put it like that, $230 wouldn't be considered lowballing in my opinion, unless escort in question has very high rates or an inflated since of self. Business is business! I've never understood people that chase away legitimate business, potencial clients who very well may become repeat client and/or make referrals, or the opportunity to make "reasonable money" (it's not like you offered $20 buck for a BJ from a Pro escort!), unless they are doing SO WELL that they just can't be bothered, or a reasonable offer just insults them! That said, I have only made offers in the past when I've casually encountered men who were not necessary working or if so, I wanted to extend another hour beyond what was quoted. It really depends on the circumstances for me to just make an offer vs ask a quote. But that's just me. I'm sure others see it differently. Good luck though, all he can say is no, or not reply which is the same as "FUCK NO".

[MeatHead]

Many times I get this. Random dudes that can't even spell making offers of this nature. They expect me to pay me 100 bucks for sucking my dick. I'm like, what? Fuck outta here. I'm not desperate. They act like we are in the hood. 

[ICTJOCK]

I generally get ask for my rate or "donation".    I've had a very few offer less and tell me that's all they can afford.      I don't think I have ever been  "offered"  a rate.

Interesting idea,  but I don't think it would be that successful.    Different providers view the value of their work in different ways.   Some would be offended no doubt.

Definitely shifts the compensation "control"  to the client.     Interesting.

[marylander1940]

10 hours ago, socurious said:

Many times I get this. Random dudes that can't even spell making offers of this nature. They expect me to pay me 100 bucks for sucking my dick. I'm like, what? Fuck outta here. I'm not desperate. They act like we are in the hood. 

[marylander1940]

13 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

Since you put it like that, $230 wouldn't be considered lowballing in my opinion, unless escort in question has very high rates or an inflated since of self. Business is business! I've never understood people that chase away legitimate business, potencial clients who very well may become repeat client and/or make referrals, or the opportunity to make "reasonable money" (it's not like you offered $20 buck for a BJ from a Pro escort!), unless they are doing SO WELL that they just can't be bothered, or a reasonable offer just insults them! That said, I have only made offers in the past when I've casually encountered men who were not necessary working or if so, I wanted to extend another hour beyond what was quoted. It really depends on the circumstances for me to just make an offer vs ask a quote. But that's just me. I'm sure others see it differently. Good luck though, all he can say is no, or not reply which is the same as "FUCK NO".

That would depend on the city also. In most areas of the country 250-300 is an average rate while in the middle most guys won't take those high rates. 

It does make sense to do it when asking for 2 hours as you and other posters have said.

[SoCalBaseball]

Unless I have a good above market offer and a set date/time ready I usually just ask for a rate. You can always extend an offer or inquire about their services, and in response, they may provide you with their rate or fee. 

[Danny-Darko]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

That would depend on the city also. In most areas of the country 250-300 is an average rate while in the middle most guys won't take those high rates. 

It does make sense to do it when asking for 2 hours as you and other posters have said.

Yes, but I have only made the offer for extending another hour if the hour has come near and end and we both seem to be having a good time and also depending on the escort. It's not like it had planned for two hours or even expect to want to spend another hour with the escort originally. I have never considered trying this with more "popular" or Porn Star status escorts. It really has been a few select men at particular moments. And in no case was it ever intended nor perceived to be low-browing them of bidding below their status. It wasn't like @socurious mentioned asking to blow them for $100 bucks. That would be insulting and low-browing them. 

[misterhumphries]

On 9/30/2024 at 4:23 PM, marylander1940 said:

Hi, would you take $230 for an in call at your place? 

Now.... are we implying lowballing? 

 

I'd say no. You've shown interest and made an opening offer. It's now up to the escort to accept or flat-out refuse. Of course, your offer could also be based on how you'd want your time spent with the escort. 

[Thelatin]

I’m glad to have inspired a topic.  If I see someone I’m very interested I do sometimes just make an offer.  To be clear, they are generous offers for multiple hours.  I’ve never had an issue with the method.  
 

It’s in no way an effort to get a “deal” or “low ball”.  It just works for me. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by Thelatin

[LaffingBear]

Interesting topic.

I never initiated with an offer in my years of hiring.  And I never negotiated a stated rate for an hour or overnight, etc.  A provider sets their rate, I'm either willing to pay it, or not.  

And, I'll admit it - I had an attitude if affordability came up during discussions.  If a fee was quoted and I declined, if the provider followed up with anything like "well, if you can't afford it...."  my reply was  "I didn't say I can't afford it.  I said I'm not willing to pay that."

 

[+ Jamie21]

Never works for me. My rates clear (no legal need to be coy about it here) and if the client wants a reduction on that it’s a “no” regardless of their reason. Negotiating on rates always ends up disappointing one party to the deal so why start the arrangement like that?

If they want something that isn’t advertised then fine, make a proposal to me, but I usually find in those instances the client wants me to quote first. 

[Simon Suraci]

Maybe propose a fee for multiple hours, overnight, or multi-day if the provider has no established rates for such arrangements. Best to ask first about it because these types of meets are not always advertised or frequently requested. He may have a rate structure, you might not know about it until you ask.

I do. I don’t blast it out on my ads though or quote it in my responses to general rate inquiries. I would quote it when a client is specifically inquiring about something longer than two hours.

Aside - I had a client request 2 1/2 hours a while ago. I thought that was funny. I charged him for two hours and he was generous with his tip. He was very happy.

Low balling a one or two hour session below the market rate for your area is tacky and insulting. Perhaps less so when he is charging way more than standard for your area.

There are always exceptions for his relative notoriety, popularity, status, and any unique or uncommon characteristics to justify an inflated rate. Keep those in mind.

If you don’t want to pay his standard rate, it’s best for you and for him to move on gracefully. Spare your time and dignity, and his.

[Thelatin]

I’m unsure why there is an assumption making an offer up front would be a “low ball” offer.  I have flaws, being cheap isn’t one of them lol. 

[lookin4hotties]

I've noticed a few guys that have only been online even on major sites for a short time will quote an hourly rate and then when I ask what their overnight or 24-hour rate is they don't have an immediate answer, because they haven't done any out-of-towners yet.

Recently one of them asked ME to quote THEM what they thought I would want to pay for an overnight.  I lowballed and said $1000 plus all expenses and airfare and they said it wasn't worth it (they were only about 110 miles from me - I would still have flown them to my hometown)..  I didn't counteroffer because they were a little cocky and I don't know.  There was also another "high level" escort who quoted me almost $11,000 for 24 hours because they said they are hourly and basically the meter is running.  Despite having a REALLY nice body and everything, I had to politely decline.  Also, I don't know if it's me, but I don't know if I'm down with $400/hour for just anyone, maybe I'm just too frugal.  

Edited October 6, 2024 by lookin4hotties

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, lookin4hotties said:

I've noticed a few guys that have only been online even on major sites for a short time will quote an hourly rate and then when I ask what their overnight or 24-hour rate is they don't have an immediate answer, because they haven't done any out-of-towners yet.

That's why I also make the 2 hour offers.

When I've asked providers for their "1 and 2 hour rates," with a couple exceptions, they only give me the hour rate. That's why I switched to making a 2 hour offers, since many new providers haven't priced it yet.

Likewise, it allows you to weed out the "hourly" guys, like the 11k guy you mentioned 🙄

[+ keroscenefire]

I've honestly had better luck with the opposite. Anyone who gives me a rate above $300, I just politiely say, sorry that's not something I can afford right now. Often they will ask what I can afford and I say, "I usually go for $250 per hour." If they accept that great, but if they want to go to $300 I accept that as well. 

[+ ApexNomad]

Negotiating a provider’s rate is uncouth—you’ll come off as cheap, which is far worse than any concern they might secretly have about your looks.

[+ keroscenefire]

1 minute ago, ApexNomad said:

Negotiating a provider’s rate is uncouth—you’ll come off as cheap, which is far worse than any concern they might secretly have about your looks.

Maybe. I just don't go above $300 for a new provider period so anyone who quotes me above that I just say that's too much. It's up to the provider to choose to accept a lower rate if they want. I never suggest or negotiate a lower rate unless they ask me to.