“Why successful men use escorts”

[BonVivant]

Interesting video:

 

[Luv2play]

Pretty shallow analysis of the question. 

[robberbaron4u]

I had responsibility for managing the lives and fortunes of my extended family, aunts, uncles, cousins. Early on, I realized that, given, that responsibility, any "significant other" that I admitted to my life would suffer, emotionally, from that commitment. And, I turned to "escorts" for sexual gratification. At least, in my honesty, that was my excuse in not pursuing a long term relationship with any one person although I do enjoy long, affectionate friendships of almost sixty years standing in some instances.

[CuriousByNature]

14 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

 I do enjoy long, affectionate friendships of almost sixty years standing 

That's impressive, but your legs must be very tired.

[robberbaron4u]

26 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said:

That's impressive, but your legs must be very tired.

Not at all as walking is my sport...

[+ DrownedBoy]

He's correct - time is money, looks are money, sex is money, and money is money. It's nothing but economics, no matter how you want to paint it. And it makes economic sense for men in that situation to simply pay for it.

I don't fully buy it though - there's enough men/women who are willing to be a trophy wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend without that much convincing or charm. And you don't have to be rich rich - a lot of doctors in my area have live-in, hot girlfriends. And I laughed when one went and married her when she got pregnant.

[+ sniper]

On 7/17/2024 at 6:35 PM, DrownedBoy said:

He's correct - time is money, looks are money, sex is money, and money is money. It's nothing but economics, no matter how you want to paint it. And it makes economic sense for men in that situation to simply pay for it.

I don't fully buy it though - there's enough men/women who are willing to be a trophy wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend without that much convincing or charm. And you don't have to be rich rich - a lot of doctors in my area have live-in, hot girlfriends. And I laughed when one went and married her when she got pregnant.

There is still the whole "one more commitment on the pile" aspect that deters some of us. Even if didn't bother the partner, it would bother me. Someone asked me why I'm single despite good job, house, etc. My response was after caretaking for various family members who simply can't reciprocate and would be in dire straits if I just dropped them, I feel like I don't have anything left to give, and I don't want to be "the taker" in a relationship. 

Edited July 19, 2024 by sniper

[+ José Soplanucas]

Just posing this question implies a loooooot of prejudice.

[HotelFun]

10 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Just posing this question implies a loooooot of prejudice.

Oh please! 🙄 Get a grip 

[wanderlust307]

A sweeping argument. To start, if by successful we mean rich, they don't. Because they don't need it. There is a long queue for an invitation to their parties and their yachts. And an army of personal assistants, event organisers and party planners to care for every taste. They would feel insulted to use escorts from hunqz and rentmen. These are for people like us, the average middle class Joe.

[Redwine56]

13 hours ago, sniper said:

There is still the whole "one more commitment on the pile" aspect that deters some of us. Even if didn't bother the partner, it would bother me. Someone asked me why I'm single despite good job, house, etc. My response was after caretaking for various family members who simply can't reciprocate and would be in dire straits if I just dropped them, I feel like I don't have anything left to give, and I don't want to be "the taker" in a relationship. 

You seem like a very unselfish, kind person by just that comment.  I can only hope that those who are the recipients of your kindness appreciate you.  

[+ Jamie21]

2 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

A sweeping argument. To start, if by successful we mean rich, they don't. Because they don't need it. There is a long queue for an invitation to their parties and their yachts. And an army of personal assistants, event organisers and party planners to care for every taste. They would feel insulted to use escorts from hunqz and rentmen. These are for people like us, the average middle class Joe.

They do hire. Because they can. They buy everything with money: goods, companionship, knowledge, sex….in their world everything is a commodity that can be purchased. If they got it for free then they’d think there’s something wrong with it. 

[+ FrankR]

6 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

They do hire. Because they can. They buy everything with money: goods, companionship, knowledge, sex….in their world everything is a commodity that can be purchased. If they got it for free then they’d think there’s something wrong with it. 

No, my good sir! I don’t buy…I lease!! 😉 Have been known to consider lease to own as well!! 😋  I heard the really rich gets all kinds of freebies, but I am not there yet!

[mike carey]

3 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

A sweeping argument. To start, if by successful we mean rich, they don't. Because they don't need it. There is a long queue for an invitation to their parties and their yachts. And an army of personal assistants, event organisers and party planners to care for every taste. They would feel insulted to use escorts from hunqz and rentmen. These are for people like us, the average middle class Joe.

It is sweeping on one level, but it's not a simple assertion and it's not implying binaries of either rich/not or hire/don't. It's more a question of when they do hire, why? They hire for similar reasons to all of us: they can afford to, it cuts out the need to woo a sex partner, they can get a particular type that they can't by other means, it can remove emotion from an interaction and it limits the engagement to a specific amount of time. And offering specific recompense is 'hiring' whether it's through a website that lesser mortals might use or a direct approach either personal of via a fixer, it's still 'hiring'.

[+ Jamie21]

23 minutes ago, FrankR said:

No, my good sir! I don’t buy…I lease!! 😉 Have been known to consider lease to own as well!! 😋  I heard the really rich gets all kinds of freebies, but I am not there yet!

Yes it’s more tax efficient to lease…

[+ Pensant]

6 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

These are for people like us, the average middle class Joe.

True to an extent; but dropping $500 is likely out of the range of a middle-class Joe these days.

[BonVivant]

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Yes it’s more tax efficient to lease…

Also less expensive than getting rid of something you “own”. 

[BonVivant]

23 hours ago, Pensant said:

True to an extent; but dropping $500 is likely out of the range of a middle-class Joe these days.

This is a hobby for the upper middle class and low rich. The top 1% live in a different universe. 

Edited July 21, 2024 by BonVivant

[+ Jamie21]

I saw a client recently who was visiting London. A lot of my clients are visitors, usually from the US or countries where the cost of living is similar to here. However this guy wasn’t from the usual places. 

Before we start a session I do a short chat about their reasons for booking, any preferences, no go areas, injuries etc. Often it’s just a couple of minutes and all is straightforward. However this client shared with me some of his motivations and reasons for booking which were more in depth than usual. I won’t say what it was because it’s private and not so relevant to this thread (although it was very relevant to the session).

By the time we’d talked (and he really wanted to share this with me so I didn’t try to curtail the chat) we were well into the hour and he wasn’t even naked! In the circumstances I decided to extend the session so he got the full hour of activity although I didn’t tell him, I just decided not to rush him to finish on the hour. 

Afterwards he shared with me that he’d thought long and hard about booking with me because in his home country the cost of my session is the same as what he’d spend on a month of groceries. (Note that when he booked he’d never tried to negotiate). However he said he’d decided to go ahead and treat himself and he was really glad he had because it was worth it. 

These kind of meetings are really where I get a lot of satisfaction in the work, and it’s a reminder that hiring isn’t exclusively done by those with plenty of disposable income. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, BonVivant said:

This a hobby for the upper middle class and low rich. The top 1% live in a different universe. 

 I agree if you are talking about hiring U$S 500 per hour escorts. However, there are sex workers of all price levels for everyone who has anything to trade. If you are a working class man in the bottom of the income scale, and have 50 extra bucks in your pocket, you will find a hustler who will want your money.

[wanderlust307]

2 hours ago, Pensant said:

True to an extent; but dropping $500 is likely out of the range of a middle-class Joe these days.

It seems we have a different understanding of the middle class 😅

[BeamerBikes]

On 7/19/2024 at 3:48 PM, sniper said:

My response was after caretaking for various family members who simply can't reciprocate and would be in dire straits if I just dropped them, I feel like I don't have anything left to give, and I don't want to be "the taker" in a relationship. 

My god man, that hit deep and VERY close to home.  

You want to pool resources and hire a string a house boys until we find a trustworthy one that will take care of us into old age? We’ll make him the Grand Budapest promise,  “all of this will be yours, minus whatever we have spent on Whiskey and Whores”

 

[BeamerBikes]

3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

In the circumstances I decided to extend the session so he got the full hour of activity although I didn’t tell him, I just decided not to rush him to finish on the hour. 

Your services are the Lord’s work in some ways.  Most therapists are definite clock watchers.  Sometimes people just need to be heard in addition to the ancillaries.  

[+ Jamie21]

1 hour ago, BeamerBikes said:

Your services are the Lord’s work in some ways.  Most therapists are definite clock watchers.  Sometimes people just need to be heard in addition to the ancillaries.  

Well as I share the studio where I work (in calls) then if there’s someone else using it soon after me then I do need to be strict on time (not so much with out calls). On this occasion the place was free afterwards so I was ok to extend and honestly on hearing his story I just couldn’t rush him. I just wanted to hug him. 

[BonVivant]

17 hours ago, BeamerBikes said:

My god man, that hit deep and VERY close to home.  

You want to pool resources and hire a string a house boys until we find a trustworthy one that will take care of us into old age? We’ll make him the Grand Budapest promise,  “all of this will be yours, minus whatever we have spent on Whiskey and Whores”

 

It sounds like an amazing private retirement home/compound. Where would it be located?

I’d sign up.