Sometimes I wonder how anyone can do this with a 9 to 5…

[Jarrod_Uncut]

…Considering the fact that it seems 99.9% of booking requests mostly seem to want to meet before 5. 
 

Just the other day I was telling a return client that I could not meet him at 4 p.m., but that I could do 5/5:30 instead. Nope, too late for him. Only thing is, he didn’t tell me that until the day of the booking. However, the night before he said he was off work…but never said he had a company dinner later that evening to be to at 8 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

I ended up telling him that I can no longer be available for weekday bookings before 5 p.m. I feel people think just because I don’t have a conventional 9-5, that I’m readily available in the middle of the day. Which I can be. But from time to time, those are hours that I’m trying to get stuff done before other businesses close. And it was around that time I was at another place of business trying to figure out something serious, which meant I needed a break between that and driving to see him.

I also stated this in another thread; when I’m on hotel time I don’t always have the luxury to meet during the late morning or early afternoon at all. Recently I met with someone and even though it was a great time and it all worked out even with timing, he needed to meet before 2 p.m. So I had to get into the hotel before technical hotel time, but I’ve had times that’s not been possible. 
 

And it seems a lot of the times I wait around for evening bookings: they’re mostly always same day bookings which means: if I have anything planned that evening, it’s going to be cancelled or postponed. 
 

Not trying to put down anyone who needs daytime bookings but, just wondering because it often seems there’s a culture of promoting “business man by day, male escort at night/weekdays” but I find many people don’t book at night or weekends. I feel like between noon and 4 p.m. is “rush hour” in the escort world. But not always on a predictable basis like traffic.

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[pubic_assistance]

56 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I find many people don’t book at night or weekends.

Because they're home with their wife and kids.

[BuffaloKyle]

If a provider has a 9 to 5 job I'll see they post right in their ad only available Friday nights and/or on the weekends. For the majority of them then too it's only to make some extra money so not a huge deal to them if they're missing out on potential appts by not having more availability on Weekdays. 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

…Considering the fact that it seems 99.9% of booking requests mostly seem to want to meet before 5. 
 

Just the other day I was telling a return client that I could not meet him at 4 p.m., but that I could do 5/5:30 instead. Nope, too late for him. Only thing is, he didn’t tell me that until the day of the booking. However, the night before he said he was off work…but never said he had a company dinner later that evening to be to at 8 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

I ended up telling him that I can no longer be available for weekday bookings before 5 p.m. I feel people think just because I don’t have a conventional 9-5, that I’m readily available in the middle of the day. Which I can be. But from time to time, those are hours that I’m trying to get stuff done before other businesses close. And it was around that time I was at another place of business trying to figure out something serious, which meant I needed a break between that and driving to see him.

I also stated this in another thread; when I’m on hotel time I don’t always have the luxury to meet during the late morning or early afternoon at all. Recently I met with someone and even though it was a great time and it all worked out even with timing, he needed to meet before 2 p.m. So I had to get into the hotel before technical hotel time, but I’ve had times that’s not been possible. 
 

And it seems a lot of the times I wait around for evening bookings: they’re mostly always same day bookings which means: if I have anything planned that evening, it’s going to be cancelled or postponed. 
 

Not trying to put down anyone who needs daytime bookings but, just wondering because it often seems there’s a culture of promoting “business man by day, male escort at night/weekdays” but I find many people don’t book at night or weekends. I feel like between noon and 4 p.m. is “rush hour” in the escort world. But not always on a predictable basis like traffic.

On average how many clients do you see per day? 

You have to adapt yourself to your clients' schedules and "do stuff" whenever you're free, organize your time to make the most of it.

 

[marylander1940]

18 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Because they're home with their wife and kids.

especially in the smaller markets in the middle of the country where @Jarrod_Uncut drives around.

 

[jmichaeliii]

I do middle of the day all the time.  There is a hotel 5 minutes from my office that offers Dayuse with a 10am to 4pm time block.  

After 5pm is a no way for me because of what the guy above said about wife and kids.  I can break away for 2 hours in the middle of the day.  None of my providers have had an issue with that.

[soloyo215]

8 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

…Considering the fact that it seems 99.9% of booking requests mostly seem to want to meet before 5. 
 

Just the other day I was telling a return client that I could not meet him at 4 p.m., but that I could do 5/5:30 instead. Nope, too late for him. Only thing is, he didn’t tell me that until the day of the booking. However, the night before he said he was off work…but never said he had a company dinner later that evening to be to at 8 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

I ended up telling him that I can no longer be available for weekday bookings before 5 p.m. I feel people think just because I don’t have a conventional 9-5, that I’m readily available in the middle of the day. Which I can be. But from time to time, those are hours that I’m trying to get stuff done before other businesses close. And it was around that time I was at another place of business trying to figure out something serious, which meant I needed a break between that and driving to see him.

I also stated this in another thread; when I’m on hotel time I don’t always have the luxury to meet during the late morning or early afternoon at all. Recently I met with someone and even though it was a great time and it all worked out even with timing, he needed to meet before 2 p.m. So I had to get into the hotel before technical hotel time, but I’ve had times that’s not been possible. 
 

And it seems a lot of the times I wait around for evening bookings: they’re mostly always same day bookings which means: if I have anything planned that evening, it’s going to be cancelled or postponed. 
 

Not trying to put down anyone who needs daytime bookings but, just wondering because it often seems there’s a culture of promoting “business man by day, male escort at night/weekdays” but I find many people don’t book at night or weekends. I feel like between noon and 4 p.m. is “rush hour” in the escort world. But not always on a predictable basis like traffic.

One of the issues of this not being a recognized profession. I'm sure a good market analysis or analytics can shed some light on the most likely and most common times clients want services. I agree that a great number of the "target demographic" might be people that after 5pm might want to be with family or with other responsibilities.

Personally I have some flexibility in my schedule, and I'm technically in a 9-5 job, but I can book at pretty much any time of the day. I can see that being challenging for others.

[Jamie21]

Most of my clients are middle of the day bookings between 11am and 4pm is most frequently booked. Sometimes it’s also the 5pm to 7pm slot too, which is known in France as Cinq et Sept. The traditional time when men see their mistress after work before they head home to the wife. 

“Hello dear I’ll be home just after 7, it’s been a busy day at the office and the trains are delayed”….
 

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I do middle of the day all the time.  There is a hotel 5 minutes from my office that offers Dayuse with a 10am to 4pm time block.  

After 5pm is a no way for me because of what the guy above said about wife and kids.  I can break away for 2 hours in the middle of the day.  None of my providers have had an issue with that.

Same for me.

I like to he home with the family at night.

My wife knows I fool around, (she does too) but we make a big effort to keep it unnoticeable and therefore it needs to be done on time when I wouldn't be home anyway. Day Use is a great resource when you have a younger provider with limited resources for hosting.

As @marylander1940 mentioned: in Middle America, married-with-kids bisexuals are big market for escorts.

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[+ DrownedBoy]

I have providers who work 9-5 jobs. I'm less likely to see them, because I have to schedule ahead of time, whereas many others are available every night and/or weekend. One guy I met before, he works, and wasn't even able to find a time slot over a 2-week vacation.

I work 9-5 as well, and only hire on nights when I don't have to work the next morning, so I strongly respect escorts who juggle jobs as well. But they'd be better off, even if they work, by marking themselves as "available now" if they have free time. I prefer to make hiring decisions a lot closer to the session, and I can't schedule 3 weeks ahead of time when dealing with a local provider.

[+ DERRIK]

The fundamental truth to any selling/marketing program is

MAKE IT EASY TO BUY

Often time this takes precedence over Cost/quality/ etc

Amazon is a prime example.  I can buy with one click - no repeat BS like address, cc, 

Some providers are EASY TO BUY - some are not

 

[ericwinters]

6 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I do middle of the day all the time.  There is a hotel 5 minutes from my office that offers Dayuse with a 10am to 4pm time block.  

After 5pm is a no way for me because of what the guy above said about wife and kids.  I can break away for 2 hours in the middle of the day.  None of my providers have had an issue with that.

A bit off-topic, but are the day-use places hard to navigate, logistically speaking? Checking in and out? It looks like they are all third-party bookings, and I want to try day-use, but so far, I've not.

[MikeBiDude]

6 minutes ago, ericwinters said:

A bit off-topic, but are the day-use places hard to navigate, logistically speaking? Checking in and out? It looks like they are all third-party bookings, and I want to try day-use, but so far, I've not.

It’s exactly like checking into a hotel in a regular manner. DayUse allows you to cancel without any penalty, in fact they don’t even charge your card, (HotelByDay does charge) your present it a the hotel check in. There is zero difference in a regular booking in my experience. 

[jmichaeliii]

19 minutes ago, ericwinters said:

A bit off-topic, but are the day-use places hard to navigate, logistically speaking? Checking in and out? It looks like they are all third-party bookings, and I want to try day-use, but so far, I've not.

I have had no problems at all.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

23 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

On average how many clients do you see per day? 

You have to adapt yourself to your clients' schedules and "do stuff" whenever you're free, organize your time to make the most of it.

 

That’s the thing: I am not a “per day” type of provider. In fact, I recently started to mention this in my ads: I don’t want people to assume I’m seeing 2-3-10 clients a day. I just don’t book that way, nor see a need to. To me, that’s like trying to go on multiple “dates” in a day. 
 

I usually only schedule 1, maybe 2, possibly 3 if everybody coordinates properly. 4 is not impossible but, I would say that only happens once or twice a year in the more affluent markets. Most big cities have too many other providers to make that happen. 
 

In the case of adapting: my thing is this particular client tells me this at 10 p.m. the night before, after previously waiting all week and even saying, “in a few weeks I’ll be able to”. But then drops in my lap: “4 pm tomorrow?”Like excuse me? I just feel people assume, “you don’t have a regular job, so you probably aren’t doing anything”.
 

I actually parted ways with him (and I’m saying that kindly) because each appointment: he is often impatient about timing and always seems to have something better to do, or other plans to make. I like those who are willing to be a bit patient and considerate. 

People have to recognize that before any times can be given, checking to see what time works for both doesn’t hurt. 

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[marylander1940]

11 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

That’s the thing: I am not a “per day” type of provider. In fact, I recently started to mention this in my ads: I don’t want people to assume I’m seeing 2-3-10 clients a day. I just don’t book that way, nor see a need to. To me, that’s like trying to go on multiple “dates” in a day. 
 

I usually only schedule 1, maybe 2, possibly 3 if everybody coordinates properly. 4 is not impossible but, I would say that only happens once or twice a year in the more affluent markets. Most big cities have too many other providers to make that happen. 
 

In the case of adapting: my thing is this particular client tells me this at 10 p.m. the night before, after previously waiting all week and even saying, “in a few weeks I’ll be able to”. But then drops in my lap: “4 pm tomorrow?”Like excuse me? I just feel people assume, “you don’t have a regular job, so you probably aren’t doing anything”.
 

I actually parted ways with him (and I’m saying that kindly) because each appointment: he is often impatient about timing and always seems to have something better to do, or other plans to make. I like those who are willing to be a bit patient and considerate. 

People have to recognize that before any times can be given, checking to see what time works for both doesn’t hurt. 

At 10 PM asking for 4 PM the next day should be enough notice. Unless you already had someone at 3, 4 or 5 PM, you can just accept it and see him at 4 PM. Did you have something else scheduled for that afternoon? If it's something that can only be done during working hours can you do it in the morning or at noon? 

He wasn't asking you to run across town now. 

Most escorts on a trip see 1, 2 or 3 clients per day, even locals occasionally have days where they see multiple guys and then days where the phone is dead. At least you don't have to stay home like working guys had to in the 90's before widespread use of cellphones. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

23 hours ago, DERRIK said:

The fundamental truth to any selling/marketing program is

MAKE IT EASY TO BUY

Often time this takes precedence over Cost/quality/ etc

Amazon is a prime example.  I can buy with one click - no repeat BS like address, cc, 

Some providers are EASY TO BUY - some are not

 

I consider myself fairly easy to buy (or “rent” I should say), however easy doesn’t always come with the perk of choosing any time one wants (I’m not a movie showing). Like I said above, this particular client has a way of making things all about his timing as if, it’s more important than mine. Which is why I told him to ✌yesterday because I can’t be continuously subjected to that type of attitude.
 

However, I think just in general it’s good to try and coordinate a mutually agreeable time, so that it doesn’t risk conflicting with what someone may have going on.

I don’t mind Day time bookings (daytime play be quite relaxing!) but I just remember all the jobs I’ve had before escorting, middle of day hardly ever worked out to meet unless it was my day off. 

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

17 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

At 10 PM asking for 4 PM the next day should be enough notice. Unless you already had someone at 3, 4 or 5 PM, you can just accept it and see him at 4 PM. Did you have something else scheduled for that afternoon?

 

Umm yes…And I told him this the night before. But then the next day, he acts like I didn’t tell him this. I specifically said: “I don’t want to schedule 4 p.m. because I have obligations at 1 p.m. that could take at least two hours.” Then I added, 5/5:30 I can do. He sends me a snarky reply that made me predict he was going to do the same he always does: cancels and says it’s going to be too late.
 

Which sure enough the next day 2 hours prior to 5:30, he drops he has a company dinner, tells me if I can’t make it by 6 to cancel, even though I told him again, I could be there at 5:30. 🤦🏾‍♂️

So no, 10 p.m. for 4 p.m. the next day isn’t sufficient notice when the person has stuff going on in the afternoon that could conflict with that timing. I can text every contact on my phone and ask them to meet me at 4:30 tomorrow. And guess how many will be available? Most likely non except one who is always available anytime, but most likely non because it’s short notice. 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
 

On top of that, he lives over an hour from me, add 20 minutes during the daytime regardless what day of week. He knows this, but what he wants me to do is: cancel my plans and rush thru all of it to cater to him. And I’m not about to do that. 

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[Jamie21]

17 hours ago, ericwinters said:

A bit off-topic, but are the day-use places hard to navigate, logistically speaking? Checking in and out? It looks like they are all third-party bookings, and I want to try day-use, but so far, I've not.

Day use is very easy. I book on their app. I don’t use it for meeting clients because I have my own place but I use it for filming. They’re all hotel rooms that would otherwise be empty. I can cancel up to the last minute without incurring a fee. A few have a very small booking fee but most it’s free to book. Check in is just the same as checking in at the hotel. 

[marylander1940]

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Day use is very easy. I book on their app. I don’t use it for meeting clients because I have my own place but I use it for filming. They’re all hotel rooms that would otherwise be empty. I can cancel up to the last minute without incurring a fee. A few have a very small booking fee but most it’s free to book. Check in is just the same as checking in at the hotel. 

Taking this off subject, do you have a link to your videos? or your OF page? You seem to be a very busy pornstar. 

[Your Man in Arlington]

8 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

At least you don't have to stay home like working guys had to in the 90's before widespread use of cellphones.

I would literally walk about half-an-hour to hang out on a street corner for who-knows-how-long on *weekend* evenings, and sometimes even weekdays, depending on what was in town. And, this was even while I had a pager, though I would have to find a payphone in time to call a guy back.

[Jamie21]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Taking this off subject, do you have a link to your videos? or your OF page? You seem to be a very busy pornstar. 

It’s at the bottom of all my posts 😂

[marylander1940]

2 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

It’s at the bottom of all my posts 😂

No pics at all, just a vague video and the model application. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Day use is very easy. I book on their app. I don’t use it for meeting clients because I have my own place but I use it for filming. They’re all hotel rooms that would otherwise be empty. I can cancel up to the last minute without incurring a fee. A few have a very small booking fee but most it’s free to book. Check in is just the same as checking in at the hotel. 

I’ve checked out dayuse, but unless it’s someplace like New York/Los Angeles or you really have a need to check into a hotel early, I have seen Day use to cost  almost as much as a night at a hotel. Usually something like Check in at 9 a.m., checkout at 5. I usually prefer to get the full day’s use.

Perhaps if you’re very early and just flying into town, but I’ve had times where I just really asked the hotel for an early check in due to extenuating circumstances. Doesn’t always get granted though so, I’ve just stuck with making certain “hours” that I’m available to host.
 

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

If this post is hijacking the conversation from one specific would be client of @Jarrod_Uncut who was "difficult", please report it. 

 

No worries, I’m not too fixated on discussing the topic in great detail. I’ve just always wanted to say that, because idk how some manage to take daytime only clients, and still work 9 to 5.

That said, this particular client was an occasional repeat. So we’ve met a handful of times already. However, the whole time we’ve known each other; it’s been an issue with his unwillingness to be patient, and him occasionally cancelling when I’m getting ready or on my way (sometimes he would send cancel fee/deposits, other times we’d have to argue it), despite me being the one commuting to his place which he knows is over an hour away across town. 
 

This time he didn’t want to send one, and wanted to start being condescending and arguing. I’m like screw this, he was already going to get a special price and couldn’t be considerate of that. I told him, it’s people like you who make doing business in this town (Kansas City) a living hell. Many the clients out here are demanding, argue over price, not reliable, always creating some drama and animosity if the slightest thing doesn’t go their way or you speak up for yourself.  
 

It zaps energy and undermines confidence. That’s why I just have to focus more on getting out of this area for awhile going into next month. My phone has been busy: but only from clients in other cities I’m advertising in. This has been a burden to endure…
 

 

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[Jamie21]

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

No pics at all, just a vague video and the model application. 

Ah you probably went to the MassageForHim.com website. There’s a link on there to the justforfans - circled red on this screenshot.

And the justforfans site name is on the bottom of my posts.