Why does everything need to be served spicy now?

[samhexum]

On 4/29/2024 at 10:32 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Jewish Deli and Kosher Jewish Deli aren't the same thing.

I love a good reuben sandwich.

I can get one at a Jewish Deli but not a Kosher Deli.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 6:00 PM, ShortCutie7 said:

@pubic_assistancein my experience “kosher-style” means that the restaurant or catering hall follows all of the basic rules of what “kosher” means except for the way the animal is killed and the presence of a mashgiach/rabbi.  A kosher-style deli would not be actually kosher but would not serve dairy, shellfish, or pork.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 11:30 PM, pubic_assistance said:

Like I said before .."kosher" is a religious practice, not a fashion choice.

Either you are or you are not.

 

On 5/1/2024 at 2:22 PM, edinbrooklyn said:

I’ve know people who were kosher adjacent. Even if that’s not exactly kosher.

Sandwich icon Katz’s Delicatessen and beloved Ukrainian East Village eatery Veselka have teamed up to create a new menu mashup: the “pastrogi,” a pastrami-stuffed pierogi.

The city’s oldest deli provides its signature deli meat, and Veselka works the pastrami into its classic Eastern European dumplings.

The one-of-a-kind “flavorful fusion” will only be available for one month at Veselka’s new Williamsburg location at 646 Lorimer St. starting on its opening day, Wednesday, June 5.

The “innovative” pastrogi — available either boiled or fried — emerged through trial and error, with the restaurants saying it took weeks to perfect. In the end, “we couldn’t be more thrilled to share it with both our customers and theirs,” Veselka owner Tom Birchard said, adding that the partnership was a way “to showcase our Ukrainian heritage while celebrating the diverse culinary landscape of NYC.”

An appetizer portion of four is $12, while an entree portion of eight costs $22.

Adding to the hype, the 1954-born Ukrainian spot and Katz’s — the latter oft-remembered as a filming location for the 1989 hit rom-com “When Harry Met Sally” filming location — are also offering a super-stuffed “New York Classics” combo package that can be shipped nationwide for the next three weeks.

For $160, it includes a pound of each of hand-carved pastrami and corned beef; a 12-pack of potato pierogies; a 16-slice half-loaf of deli rye; 2 quarts of sour pickles; 8 ounces each of deli mustard, ruben dressing and sauerkraut; a pound of Swiss cheese; and a dozen Veselka potato pierogies.

“We love having the capability to ship these exclusive and iconic tastes across the country, making it possible for everyone to experience and provide a bit of nostalgia to those who may have moved away from the city,” said Jake Dell, owner of Katz’s Deli.

Two years ago, Katz’s teamed up with Italian sandwich shop Alidoro and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority for a subway-themed pastrami Ruben sandwich.
 

[Atyla]

Absolutely! Spices can indeed play a role in cancer prevention. 

[samhexum]

On 4/29/2024 at 10:37 AM, pubic_assistance said:

I lived across the street from a Jewish family when I was a kid, and was friends with their daughter who was my age. I remember during Passover, I was invited to join them for the seder, but was told to NOT enter the kitchen. Apparently that would have thrown the whole ritual off !

 

On 4/29/2024 at 6:00 PM, ShortCutie7 said:

@pubic_assistancein my experience “kosher-style” means that the restaurant or catering hall follows all of the basic rules of what “kosher” means except for the way the animal is killed and the presence of a mashgiach/rabbi.  A kosher-style deli would not be actually kosher but would not serve dairy, shellfish, or pork.

 

On 4/30/2024 at 1:34 AM, samhexum said:

Kosher-adjacent?

 

Preserving Tradition, Embracing Innovation: A Journey through Katz’s Delicatessen

 

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On 5/20/2024 at 7:26 AM, Atyla said:

Absolutely! Spices can indeed play a role in cancer prevention. 

Where was that scientific theory published?

[ShortCutie7]

It’s funny, today I ordered bacon at a diner I’ve been going to for my entire life, and the waiter said “aren’t you Jewish?  I thought you couldn’t eat bacon!”  And my response was “if I kept kosher, I wouldn’t be able to eat here at all!”

[Monarchy79]

On 5/1/2024 at 2:22 PM, edinbrooklyn said:

I’ve know people who were kosher adjacent. Even if that’s not exactly kosher.

Those are the same people who have recently obtained gluten allergies, 

and have the following descriptions for their relationship status:

1.) “Conscious uncoupling”

2.) “entanglements”

 

 

 

 

[MikeBiDude]

This F&B news item made me think of this thread 🤣

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What's better than Panda Express' Orange Chicken? Their new Hot Orange Chicken!

 

[samhexum]

5 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

This F&B news item made me think of this thread 🤣

Feel the Burn: Can You Handle The Heat From Panda Express' New Item?

WWW.FASTFOODCLUB.COM

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What's better than Panda Express' Orange Chicken? Their new Hot Orange Chicken!

 

alert @jjkrkwood immediately!

[MikeBiDude]

@EZEtoGRU I’ve enjoyed this thread you started.

I smiled a couple weeks ago…I was at a buffet awards banquet, put some Tri tip and Mac/cheese and a couple other selections on my plate. When I sat down one (elder) person at the table said “whew, watch out for the Mac and Cheese”. It was a bit spicy, I liked it…but thought of you and this thread.

Re: your thread title “….served spicy now”:  I wanted to make Mac & cheese today. Went to my “go to” James Beard “Beard on Pasta” book. The book was published in 1983, hardly olden times…but he adds Tabasco to the Mac & Cheese! He says don’t let the Tabasco make you nervous “it brings out the flavor of the cheese”. So spice to Mac & cheese has been around!

 

[+ sniper]

On 4/29/2024 at 11:42 PM, ShortCutie7 said:

I agree with you- I’m not the one who created the term; just saying that it is a term that restaurants and venues use.  At my own bar mitzvah, the catering hall described itself as kosher-style.  I agree that it is bullshit and have learned from orthodox people that there are no levels of kosher… a salad prepared in a non-kosher kitchen is no more kosher than bacon-wrapped shrimp with cream sauce.

Eh, while there aren't levels of kosher, members of certain Jewish communities will want to know exactly who did the certifying.. And I had a Jewish coworker who when she got married told her husband basically, she'd observe most of the rules, but she wasn't going to do the whole two sets of silverware thing and then "have to throw a spoon out because I used the wrong one for ice cream accidentally."

[EZEtoGRU]

...and now Burger King is getting in on the spicey offerings.  Their new Fiery Menu was launched this month.  The menu includes a hot Whopper, hot fries, and (believe it or not) a spicey strawberry Sprite drink.  Yuck!!!  At least you know in advance what you're getting as the items are advertised as being spicey.

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[samhexum]

2 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

At least you know in advance what you're getting as the items are advertised as being spicey.

And, equally off-putting, probably pricy.

[ReynST]

Is it's NOT served spicy, please take it away 💅🏾... 

[EZEtoGRU]

So I'm in Tucson staying at the JW Marriott.  I went to the breakfast buffet (just average btw...nothing special) this morning.  There were no ketchup bottles on the tables.  Ketchup was located at the buffet in a large ramekin (along with other things like salsa) to be dished out with a small spoon.  Well, you guessed it, the ketchup was spicy.  Not off the charts spicy...but spicy, nonetheless.  I did use it on my bland eggs.  It was edible...but really why spicy ketchup as the default ketchup for the whole place?   Yes I'm aware that Southwestern cuisine is highly influenced by Mexican cuisine and that Tucson is in the Southwest US.  But really why do we need spicy ketchup?

I guess I'm just ranting.  It wasn't the end of the world and I did eat it...just noteworthy and fitting for this topic.  Rant over.

[rvwnsd]

3 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

So I'm in Tucson staying at the JW Marriott.  I went to the breakfast buffet (just average btw...nothing special) this morning.  There were no ketchup bottles on the tables.  Ketchup was located at the buffet in a large ramekin (along with other things like salsa) to be dished out with a small spoon.  Well, you guessed it, the ketchup was spicy.  Not off the charts spicy...but spicy, nonetheless.  I did use it on my bland eggs.  It was edible...but really why spicy ketchup as the default ketchup for the whole place?   Yes I'm aware that Southwestern cuisine is highly influenced by Mexican cuisine and that Tucson is in the Southwest US.  But really why do we need spicy ketchup?

I guess I'm just ranting.  It wasn't the end of the world and I did eat it...just noteworthy and fitting for this topic.  Rant over.

I live in Phoenix and before that San Diego. We know a thing or two about Southwestern food. Never, ever have I seen spicy ketchup as the default offering. That's just weird. I can see having both "regular" and "spicy," but not just spicy.

[EZEtoGRU]

20 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

I live in Phoenix and before that San Diego. We know a thing or two about Southwestern food. Never, ever have I seen spicy ketchup as the default offering. That's just weird. I can see having both "regular" and "spicy," but not just spicy.

A quick update, I returned to the buffet this morning at the JW in Tucson.  I again dished out some ketchup to put on the bland eggs.  To my surprise, it was not spicy today....just regular old ketchup.  I appreciated that.  Maybe Saturday is the spicy ketchup day at the hotel or maybe someone made a mistake putting out the spicy version rather than the regular one.  I'll never know.  

[pubic_assistance]

On 8/18/2024 at 8:42 PM, EZEtoGRU said:

why spicy ketchup as the default ketchup

Because eggs are disgusting without spice.

I use jalapeño sauce on my eggs.

Ketchup is a bizarre default for Americans who lack global culinary experiences.

[samhexum]

25 minutes ago, EZEtoGRU said:

A quick update, I returned to the buffet this morning at the JW in Tucson.  I again dished out some ketchup to put on the bland eggs.  To my surprise, it was not spicy today....just regular old ketchup.  I appreciated that.  Maybe Saturday is the spicy ketchup day at the hotel or maybe someone made a mistake putting out the spicy version rather than the regular one.  I'll never know.  

  

[mike carey]

13 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Ketchup is a bizarre default for Americans who lack global culinary experiences.

Which is somewhat ironic, as the word is derived from an Asian word for a sauce, that when it (the word) came into contact with English referred primarily to spicy savoury sauces. The nearest commonly known such sauce is kecap manis (Indonesian/Malay sweet soy sauce - kecap [pronounced ketch-ap, stress on the first syllable] is the shared spelling now although it used to be spelt ketjap in Indonesian, tj being the way the sound ch is written in Dutch).

You'll see some brands of ketchup on Australian supermarket shelves, and although it is universally called tomato sauce in common usage, everyone will understand the K word.

[pubic_assistance]

37 minutes ago, mike carey said:

Which is somewhat ironic

It truly is.

There are so many delicious sauces served all over Asia.

Ketchup is however, perfect with Pomme Frites. Otherwise it doesn't belong on your food.

[ShortCutie7]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

It truly is.

There are so many delicious sauces served all over Asia.

Ketchup is however, perfect with Pomme Frites. Otherwise it doesn't belong on your food.

I eat ketchup only when there are no other sauce options with fries (on the rare occasion I eat them), nuggets/tenders, and burgers.  I can’t fathom having it on eggs, steak, vegetables, etc.

[pubic_assistance]

7 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

nuggets/tenders, and burgers

I haven't eaten chicken nuggets for decades...but if there's honey-mustard sauce WHY would I dunk one in ketchup ? 🤢

As far as the burger....yes. I forgot another appropriate use. Ketchup, mayonnaise, lettuce, tomato and cheese with a potato bun...is the correct way to serve a burger.

 

[ShortCutie7]

6 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I haven't eaten chicken nuggets for decades...but if there's honey-mustard sauce WHY would I dunk one in ketchup ? 🤢

As far as the burger....yes. I forgot another appropriate use. Ketchup, mayonnaise, lettuce, tomato and cheese with a potato bun...is the correct way to serve a burger.

 

Totally!  If I have a choice, I’ll usually go with honey-mustard for nuggets and A1 for a burger.

[marylander1940]

On 4/26/2024 at 6:36 PM, ShortCutie7 said:

What’s surprising to me is that a Jewish deli would have Mac and Cheese at all!

On topic, I’ve definitely noticed that in the last couple of years, hot and sour soups in Chinese restaurants have gotten hotter.

Agreed, is that even kosher?

[marylander1940]

19 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

I eat ketchup only when there are no other sauce options with fries (on the rare occasion I eat them), nuggets/tenders, and burgers.  I can’t fathom having it on eggs, steak, vegetables, etc.

Have you tried the organic ketchup from Trader Joe's? It's the original taste it had before artificial sugar was added to the recipe to make it cheaper.