PileDriver Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious. tenderloin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's annoying. No way to send a long email just a short phrases. Most guys who contact providers this way are a waste of time: Hi what's up? how are you? They should go back to email with several sentences This subject has been talked so many times on here... peter831 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's too informal. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DynamicUno Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) RM's chat system has a reputation for being unreliable (delivering messages late, dropped alerts, etc), and it doesn't generate native notifications for mobile users which forces users to check the RM page to see if new messages have been received. Text messaging (SMS or iMessage) or messaging apps like WhatsApp are more robust and natively give notifications when a message is received. RM chat's deficiencies are more serious for providers who may be in contact with multiple potential clients at the same time so checking for new message can be more challenging, clients are more likely to follow only one or two conversations at a time. My personal approach is to message on RM and transition to phone messaging once contact has been made. That preserves my ability to leave a review, but phone app messaging helps confirm the meeting details more quickly. Edited April 15 by DynamicUno Medin, socurious and Simon Suraci 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PileDriver Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 (edited) not my experience. my best assignations have been with men who are ok with an on going dialogue on RM. have written complete paragraphs and received complete paragraphs in response. Edited April 15 by PileDriver Your Man in Arlington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) I go days without looking at the RM app/page. I do not go days w/o looking at text. If the convo stays on RM Chat, I won't keep up. That may be part of their motivation to move it to text, to not seem as if they are ignoring you. Also, it's a good way to monetize the relationship, you'll likely feel compelled to make an actual appointment if the convo is via Text. Edited April 15 by Rod Hagen thomas, + DynamicUno, peter831 and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscle Lover 2 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 If they won't talk to me on RM, initially, I move on. Why? Because of a provider who, a year ago, took my emails where I mentioned what I was looking for, got my real name and posted all of my half of the conversations all over my social media because I chose not to hire him. So, I stay on RM until I can tell they are sane and then, when we have some level of normalcy, I am OK to switch to What's App or text. I may miss a provider or two who refuses to chat on RM, but if it saves me $1,000 having to hire an IT professional to block some nut job, it's worth it. Medin, pubic_assistance, Your Man in Arlington and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I prefer the very first 2-3 messages via RM messenger, if possible. I don’t waste time, but state my age, overall prefs, location, and request “visit rate”. If things move along I’m happy to switch to phone/text quickly If things go wrong, my phone number etc. not available to provider if they get upset…which some inexperienced ones do. pubic_assistance, + APPLE1, Medin and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I will always start on RM messenger before moving to text, unless the profile specifically says to contact them by text. Mostly works out for me. I've recently noticed some providers include a phone number for texting, so you have to contact them on RM messenger first. Probably provides them some level of inquiry control and screening? MikeBiDude and + Pensant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCutie7 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 As a potential client, I do not text because I as a general rule do not give my phone number to people I have not met in person. If that is a dealbreaker for a potential provider, I would simply move on. Medin and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I've had a few RM providers who REFUSE to discuss "business" matters on the RM chat. I suppose they aren't trusting of the degree of privacy they may or may not be getting there. + Pensant, Your Man in Arlington and Medin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I'm comfortable using either RM Messenger or text for communication. If the provider has a preferred method mentioned in their ad, I'll adhere to that. Otherwise, my initial contact will typically be through RM Messenger. Your Man in Arlington, Rod Hagen and + Pensant 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I've had a few RM providers who REFUSE to discuss "business" matters on the RM chat. I suppose they aren't trusting of the degree of privacy they may or may not be getting there. I agree. I don't believe RM messenger is as encrypted as it should be. I think it's just an unwritten rule - RM for basic info, and texting for actual hiring. + Pensant, Your Man in Arlington, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCR Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 13 hours ago, PileDriver said: Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious. In my experience A LOT of providers who only message via text use a spam app called Mr Number to read what other providers have said about the client whether they meet them or not. If the client has several reviews, they simply won't engage. Your Man in Arlington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Because a smart escort wants less chain of command info exposure, not more. Taking the convo away from RM immediately is always a good idea. Your Man in Arlington and Rod Hagen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 23 hours ago, PileDriver said: Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious. Preference or experience. The initial chat has been used by some idiots who want to get off without paying a cent because they are that cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DynamicUno Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I've seen some providers set an autoreply in their RM chat where they often provide availability and rates to answer the most common questions up front. Frequently, I've seen where the autoreply provides instructions to send further contact by text. I've wondered if the clients tend to follow the instructions, but it seems smart to have the autoreply in place. pubic_assistance and Rod Hagen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramelsub Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Also to leave a negative review, you must have had some communication with the provider on rentmen chat that is verifiable. I believe some providers turn off rentmen chat to limit the possibility for negative reviews. Rod Hagen, JamesB and MikeBiDude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PileDriver Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 so my feeling is a handful of exchanges on RM chat are good? prefer to then move to texting. but, also have guys who i've courted for some time who are still game...so....depends on the guy i guess? just took one yesterday from a top i had been o RM chat for years... Your Man in Arlington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgerback Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I tend to prefer the chat as I don't like having details on my text thread; usually happy to move to Whatsapp, if that's available; but I still will reach out on chat for the immediacy of it, when I see a provider I know or am interested in, on-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/16/2024 at 8:37 AM, soloyo215 said: Preference or experience. The initial chat has been used by some idiots who want to get off without paying a cent because they are that cheap. But surely that can happen on text as well? soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I’m skeptical on the explanation often given “I rarely check RM messages” - why wouldn’t you check the source of the enquiry in the first place - how many other sources of business does the average provider have? MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/17/2024 at 9:30 AM, DWnyc said: I’m skeptical on the explanation often given “I rarely check RM messages” - why wouldn’t you check the source of the enquiry in the first place - how many other sources of business does the average provider have? Speaking for myself here. I use several platforms, and RentMen Messenger is the least reliable because I can’t get push notifications to work no matter how many times I select the setting to do so. Instead, I manually have to check the app, and that’s a few times a day at best. Often not even once a day. The rest of my platforms send me notifications reliably and I respond promptly to those…because I know there is something requiring my attention so I check asap. Most of my clients aren’t hiring me directly from RentMen anyway, even though for some of them the services they want most closely align with RentMen. Most of my traffic is not on RentMen so I see no reason to give undue attention to checking it constantly, since that is the only way for me to become aware of a message. If I typically don’t receive any new messages for days or even weeks at a stretch, I’m just utterly wasting my time constantly checking. I’m too busy serving my clients, and they’re mostly contacting me by text or another platform messaging system anyhow. Why bother? I understand some clients’ privacy concerns and ability to review and I validate those reasons, but then I also hear clients complain here because they have unrealistic expectations on response times. Until RentMen invests in a more reliable messaging system, you can’t have it both ways. By either texting me or messaging me through a platform that sends alerts - even plain old email for god’s sake - you’re going to get my attention and response much faster. For me, sending a RentMen message is worse than sending snail mail. People usually only check snail mail once a day, and there is no alert… Actually even USPS gives the option now for informed delivery, which is an email once a day with scans of your incoming mail. I like that because I know when something important is waiting for me. The rest can collect and wait until I have a reason to open the mailbox. So yeah, in that sense, traditional postal mail will, in all likelihood get my attention sooner than RentMen Messenger. Literally snail mail is faster and more reliable than RentMen Messenger. borgerback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Quote Literally snail mail is faster and more reliable than RentMen Messenger. Well, that's something I would never have expected to read, @Simon Suraci! Simon Suraci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 13 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: RentMen Messenger is the least reliable because I can’t get push notifications to work Can confirm. I have to send automated emails to remind myself to check RM a couple of times a week. It's why I have an auto-reply with clear instructions to email me privately for a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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