+ glutes Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'm looking, but not convinced yet. Biggest concern is range anxiety. + 7829V, Shoedog112 and + Charlie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, glutes said: I'm looking, but not convinced yet. Biggest concern is range anxiety. Don't worry- it's very common for men to have anxiety about not being able to go long enough. musclestuduws, + IronMaus, thomas and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Look at hybrids. samhexum, + IronMaus and big-n-tall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I have a friend who liked his first Tesla enough that he bought a second one. I have owned a couple of hybrids in the past and would consider buying another one, but I have real hesitation about a pure EV. + bashful, + augustus, CuriousByNature and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I’ve had a Tesla X about 3 years now. Love it!! That said, I’ve never done a “road trip” because of the limited range, maybe 250 miles at best. The “ABC’s” of electric vehicles (Always Be Charging) is bothersome sometimes. Super-chargers are super-helpful, a new one just opened right across the street from one of regular North San Diego destinations, so helpful. As much as I love the car….I would look at hybrids next go around. + glutes, + Pensant and Marc in Calif 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeamerBikes Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 First EV was a 105 mile range Mercedes B250 powered with 1st gen Tesla technology. No fast charging options. Range anxiety was real. Especially in the winter. Current EV - Volvo XC40 Recharge with 220 miles. Fast charging at 150KW so under 20% battery to 80% battery usually around 30 minutes. Winter range is 150-180 miles depending on temp and road conditions. I'm happy with it overall. I've taken it on road trips as far as 700 miles in a single summer day to DC. Takes a little planning and research. About to get much easier when Tesla opens their network up. I find that traveling into the rural centers of Illinois and Indiana are charging deserts about to get better with Tesla's network assisting. If it had 250 miles range, it be best for the longer trips. The stops to charge don't bother me as long as there are amenities like food and rest room options nearby. I found on the DC trip, I'd hook up to the charger, restroom break, walk the dog, grab a quick bite, chill out while eating, walk dog once more, the charge would be complete. It's amazing how much time you can get back by not babysitting a gas pump. I'd look at an app like Plugshare and see what fast charging options are along the routes of frequent roadtrips. You'd definitely want to have a home charger installed. You can get by on a wall outlet if you work from home. However, having the 240v 40 amp option will be nice if you ever need to drive a lot in a single day, and want to be ready the next day. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, BonVivant said: Look at hybrids. Any in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, glutes said: Any in particular? I don’t have any recommendations. But Hybrid gives you electric to save gas and gas/petrol in case you run out of electric. So range is solved. + glutes, + Pensant and + Charlie 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 I post without comment: Opinion: Evidence EVs are a fading fad is ‘rolling in fast’ as Tesla, GM and Ford slash prices - MarketWatch WWW.MARKETWATCH.COM EV doubters like Toyota bet on hybrids and now look prescient. BonVivant, musclestuduws and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ IronMaus Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I have a Kia Niro Hybrid and love it - even though I've had an unusual amount of recalls lol I bought it so I could make trips like SF>LA without stopping - helps to have a urine receptacle. Especially with California gas prices this has been a great investment. This is my 3rd KIA. The resale value on them remain so high I always owe less than its worth which makes for easier trade-in. But I've enjoyed my current hybrid so much I plan to own this car outright before I consider selling it. + APPLE1, Marc in Calif, + Vegas_Millennial and 4 others 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Below is from today's WSJ. Think I am on pause for a EV. STOCKHOLM— Volvo Car said it won’t provide further funding to Polestar, the electric-car maker it created with Volvo’s Chinese owner Geely—the latest EV retrenchment by the global auto industry. The auto industry’s pivot to electric vehicles has been rocked by setbacks this year, just as a flood of new battery-powered models is hitting showrooms. Earlier this week, French automaker Renault said it has decided to cancel the initial public offering of its electric-car unit Ampere. Ford, meanwhile, has slashed production of its electric F-150 Lightning, a pickup truck that has generated major buzz since its launch. Rental-car firm Hertz has said it was dumping about one-third of its EV rental car fleet, replacing the cars with gas-engine vehicles. musclestuduws and + Charlie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Recent articles in the LA Times about the difficulties finding public charging stations in CA with working plugs--a high percentage in some places are defective. Also articles about insufficient electricity from wind and solar power sources in many parts of the state and country, especially in the winter. The assumption that a mandated switch from gas-powered to electric vehicles is a no-brainer solution to global warming is being exposed as not so obvious after all. musclestuduws, + glutes and + Pensant 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Belgium Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/23/2024 at 4:33 AM, glutes said: ...Biggest concern is range anxiety. In my opinion most people that have "range anxiety" are not EV owners. Owning an EV for eleven years, I never had it & other EV drivers I know don't have it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, Thomas_Belgium said: In my opinion most people that have "range anxiety" are not EV owners. Owning an EV for eleven years, I never had it & other EV drivers I know don't have it either. In SoCal many of us have “range anxiety”, it’s different here. + Charlie and Shoedog112 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, Thomas_Belgium said: In my opinion most people that have "range anxiety" are not EV owners. Owning an EV for eleven years, I never had it & other EV drivers I know don't have it either. If you live in Belgium as your moniker suggests, then I can see why you wouldn’t have range anxiety. It’s a different situation in Canada or many parts of the US where distances between large cities are much greater than in Europe. When I lived in Geneva travelling time to other cities in and outside Switzerland was much less than here in Ontario. In 2 hours I could drive through France and get to Italy. At the extreme, it takes a day and a half to get out of Ontario if I was to head west. + bashful, MikeBiDude, BonVivant and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Belgium Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 22 hours ago, Luv2play said: If you live in Belgium as your moniker suggests... 100% true, the average Belgian drives on average less than fifty miles a day, so EV's are perfect here. Marc in Calif, + Charlie, thomas and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On a typical vacation trip here in the west, it is not unusual for me to drive 350-400 miles in a day, so range anxiety is definitely an issue for me, especially since I'm unlikely to know much about the charging stations where I am headed each day. Marc in Calif, Shoedog112, Njguy2 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Just Sayin Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I have a standard range Tesla Model 3 and drive it from Tucson to Southern California several times a year; charging times might add 2 hours to driving time, depending upon weather conditions and how fast I'm driving; there are Superchargers at Gila Bend, Tacna and Yuma in Arizona and El Centro in California before you reach San Diego; I do not mind the additional time, and if you grab a bite to eat and walk around a bit, it's not a bad way to travel. mike carey, musclestuduws and MikeBiDude 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Just Sayin said: I have a standard range Tesla Model 3 and drive it from Tucson to Southern California several times a year; charging times might add 2 hours to driving time, depending upon weather conditions and how fast I'm driving; there are Superchargers at Gila Bend, Tacna and Yuma in Arizona and El Centro in California before you reach San Diego; I do not mind the additional time, and if you grab a bite to eat and walk around a bit, it's not a bad way to travel. Ironically I’ve decided to fly from Long Beach to Phoenix a couple times vs. taking my extended range Model X. The planning app put me at 7 hours plus, 2 charging stops and I would arrive at Biltmore with no charge., + Charlie, + Just Sayin and musclestuduws 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ leo2510 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 For me, the decision was made for me last year, when my mother decided to move from Portland to Coeur d'Alene ID- an EV would require a recharge for the 450-mile trip, while a hybrid could do that in just one tank of fuel. So, my next car is gonna be, instead of a Ford Mustang Mach-e, a Maverick hybrid pickup. Sure, not nearly as much fun, but the 43MPG is a compelling argument- even with the low electricity prices here in the Northwest. musclestuduws, + azdr0710, + Pensant and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) On 2/2/2024 at 11:39 AM, MikeBiDude said: Ironically I’ve decided to fly from Long Beach to Phoenix a couple times vs. taking my extended range Model X. The planning app put me at 7 hours plus, 2 charging stops and I would arrive at Biltmore with no charge., Perhaps you saw a story in the papers several years ago about a problem on I-10 between LA and Phoenix that caused cars to be caught in a traffic jam for several hours in a desert area in eastern Riverside County. One guy in a Tesla ran out of power, and Tesla had to send someone to rescue him. Edited February 10 by Charlie MikeBiDude, musclestuduws, + Pensant and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Belgium Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 22 hours ago, Charlie said: Perhaps you saw a story in the papers several years ago about a problem on I-10 between LA and Phoenix that caused cars to be caught in a traffic jam for several hours in a desert area in eastern Riverside County. One guy in a Tesla ran out of power, and Tesla had to send someone to rescue him. For those situations, EV's with solar panels could be a solution (in the future) for example: Lightyear 0 - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG + Charlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyrex Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just picked up RAV4 prime and I love it! No range anxiety and I have the best of both worlds. I do ev mode for day to day and hybrid for the long road trips. + Charlie, BonVivant and + APPLE1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Would never, ever buy a Tesla. Their fit and finish is kinda garbage. Perhaps in another decade when they've ironed out a decent suspension and can fit together an interior without it rattling after 5k miles. Now, having driven the new BMW full EVs, those are something to consider. Built like a goddamned tank. That said, I still prefer driving my ice V-8 engine. I have no sensible reason for it, but do enjoy it. rvwnsd, + Charlie and Max 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I wanted to buy a hybrid, but it wouldn’t accommodate a trailer hitch, which I need for my Küat bike rack. I put less then 5k per year on my cars, so I still have a small carbon “footprint”. BonVivant, rvwnsd and + Charlie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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