dutchal Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Today I would sooner go for Regé-Jean Page than Chris Hemsworth but I am well aware that Regé is an example of the new idea of multicultural beauty, and not eligible.for the narrow idea of "classically handsome" as Hemsworth may be viewed. Ranking them against each other is pointless. They both take my breath away. Imagine either turned into a marble sculpture. They'd both easily meet the "Classical" (ancient Greek/Roman) standard of beauty. ShortCutie7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I’m surprised no one has mentioned Simon Cowell. Simon Cowell's face, then and now: See pictures of his transforming... PAGESIX.COM The "America's Got Talent" judge's appearance has been a topic of conversation since he debuted a vividly white smile and overly plump cheeks in 2018. Walt, musclestuduws, Peter Eater and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 For me, Matt Boner is “classically” handsome I know how to spell his name, I just like my spelling better. Luv2play, musclestuduws and lanyc 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 13 hours ago, CuriousByNature said: When I think of beauty or handsomeness in a 'classical' sense I immediately associate that with what I personally consider to be the unrealistic and narrow standards put forward by sculptors working during the Classical period of Ancient Greece, and the copies of Greek sculpture later created by Roman artists. It's all very mathematical and balanced, but I find these pieces to lack necessary elements that would make them approachable if they were living beings. To me, this is where beauty and handsomeness diverge from attractiveness. Not to mention, the classical standard did not include non-Greek races and ethnicities, so this narrowed the definition of classic beauty and handsomeness even further. Thankfully the standard is not set in stone (pun intended) - and probably for most people, attractiveness is not dependent on some global ideal of physical perfection, but rather, a mix of elements which foster connection and relationship. I cannot agree more with @CuriousByNature erudite and thoughtful response. You hit the nail on the head. Each society and culture, from the beginnings of times, has its own definition of what constitutes the “classical” and its own versions of classical art and beauty. The Eurocentric/Western/Ancient Greek one went on to become the globally dominant archetype of beauty by the power of colonial empires, starting with the Romans. One simply has to watch Leni Riefenstahl’s cinematic glorifications of that archetype in Nazi Germany to grasp how it has been politically linked to claims of racial supremacy. Thankfully we live in a time where the narrow-mindedness of such “classical” archetypes becomes immediately apparent since we get to see and enjoy—if one chooses to do so—the exhilarating diversity that is intrinsic to human beauty in its many-splendored, ever-evolving shapes, mixtures, and colors. CuriousByNature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCutie7 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, dutchal said: Ranking them against each other is pointless. They both take my breath away. Imagine either turned into a marble sculpture. They'd both easily meet the "Classical" (ancient Greek/Roman) standard of beauty. Totally agree; both Page and Hemsworth are classically handsome by my standards- that is why I was initially confused by so many posters bringing race/ethnicity into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: both Page and Hemsworth are classically handsome by my standards “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’ ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’ ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.” ― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass musclestuduws, Asterisk, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, dutchal said: Ranking them against each other is pointless. They both take my breath away. Imagine either turned into a marble sculpture. They'd both easily meet the "Classical" (ancient Greek/Roman) standard of beauty. It is not ranking. It's different types. Like with guitars, one may be an electric guitar and one is an acoustic guitar. They are both guitars. There is no "ranking." Classical handsomeness is one type of handsomeness that is derived from standards promoted during the periods of Greek and Roman art called classical. It is not a "rank", it is one "category" of handsomeness that is not identical with everyone's personal preferences. Cliff, pubic_assistance, SouthOfTheBorder and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, Walt said: It is not ranking. It's different types. Like with guitars, one may be an electric guitar and one is an acoustic guitar. They are both guitars. There is no "ranking." Classical handsomeness is one type of handsomeness that is derived from standards promoted during the periods of Greek and Roman art called classical. It is not a "rank", it is one "category" of handsomeness that is not identical with everyone's personal preferences. Best answer Peter Eater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Eater Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/10/2024 at 11:34 AM, pubic_assistance said: That's some seriously bad plastic surgery there. I’ve been with Kristian many times over many years, from his 20s to now, and you are quite wrong about that. Andy2 and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy2 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 46 minutes ago, Peter Eater said: I’ve been with Kristian many times over many years, from his 20s to now, and you are quite wrong about that. I'd add to Peter's response: Kristian (who is Latino I believe) is classically handsome, even if you limit your understanding to "classical" Greek and Roman good looks. pubic_assistance and Peter Eater 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/11/2024 at 11:39 AM, Socalguy said: We will have to agree to disagree on this one. 🙂 The first time I saw him, my first though was how handsome he was in a very convential/classical way I would have responded to your original posting adding Eric Hassan to the list, but I could not locate it. There are some photos of Eric in which he is definitely classically handsome and others in which he is devilishly handsome. I must say he is more handsome in person and thanks for bringing him up, it has been way too long since I called him last. Edited January 13 by purplekow mike carey and + Socalguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanyc Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 If this guy isn't "classically handsome," I'll eat my hat. spaniard on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com + Socalguy, ShortCutie7, Andy2 and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, lanyc said: If this guy isn't "classically handsome," I'll eat my hat. spaniard on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com Almost, except for the abs. Classical handsome men are clearly muscled, but not so low in their body fat that they are so defined that you see every ripple of his six pack. He could definitely be classically handsome with that face -- if he kept the level of muscle he currently has and upped the body fat just a bit. Asterisk and Peter Eater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanyc Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Walt said: Almost, except for the abs. Classical handsome men are clearly muscled, but not so low in their body fat that they are so defined that you see every ripple of his six pack. He could definitely be classically handsome with that face -- if he kept the level of muscle he currently has and upped the body fat just a bit. What pairs well with a Fedora? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 14 hours ago, Andy2 said: Kristian (who is Latino I believe) is classically handsome, Did you feel he was classically handsome before or after the plastic surgery ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Eater Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 44 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Did you feel he was classically handsome before or after the plastic surgery ? Since there wasn’t any, your question is just an obtuse non sequitur. 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsupandstuff Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/12/2024 at 4:17 AM, guru68 said: I guess we'll have to taste a lot of pudding. I love pudding Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy2 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 12 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Did you feel he was classically handsome before or after the plastic surgery ? Pubic, what is this obsession with surgery? It is not my thing, but millions of men and women have gone under the knife for purposes of beauty or youth. (Peter says K. has not had it, I say it was not noticeable to me if he did. Why your repeated conjecture about a man you have not met?) Here is a broader point. For today's purposes, classically handsome is constructed as much as genetic. Few of the men mentioned in this thread as classically handsome (including the ones whose handsomeness is disputed) got there without a lot of gym time (it affects your face as well as your body), a careful diet (not too much alcohol, preferably no drugs), skin care products and a skillful photographer, and yes in some cases a little bit of surgery. The last, surgery, is much more common now than 30 years ago. More people are looking younger then their age and more beautiful than their genetic heritage. Full head of hair? Often transplants. Full lips? Maybe Botox. Handsome chin and face? Perhaps a nip and tuck, Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 29 minutes ago, Andy2 said: Pubic, what is this obsession with surgery? Not "obsessing". Just that I found much ironic humor in mentioning someone who's clearly had some hideous plastic surgery done under a conversation thread about "classic beauty". Lazarus, + goosh69 and Walt 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 hours ago, Whatsupandstuff said: I love pudding Me, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCutie7 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 On 1/13/2024 at 3:27 PM, lanyc said: If this guy isn't "classically handsome," I'll eat my hat. spaniard on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com Yes!!! Though I do recall seeing a thread on him that indicates that these pics are outdated, and there’s some information missing from his profile that would me (personally) from reaching out to him. 4 hours ago, Andy2 said: Pubic, what is this obsession with surgery? It is not my thing, but millions of men and women have gone under the knife for purposes of beauty or youth. (Peter says K. has not had it, I say it was not noticeable to me if he did. Why your repeated conjecture about a man you have not met?) Here is a broader point. For today's purposes, classically handsome is constructed as much as genetic. Few of the men mentioned in this thread as classically handsome (including the ones whose handsomeness is disputed) got there without a lot of gym time (it affects your face as well as your body), a careful diet (not too much alcohol, preferably no drugs), skin care products and a skillful photographer, and yes in some cases a little bit of surgery. The last, surgery, is much more common now than 30 years ago. More people are looking younger then their age and more beautiful than their genetic heritage. Full head of hair? Often transplants. Full lips? Maybe Botox. Handsome chin and face? Perhaps a nip and tuck, Etc. Completely agree with this- I think handsomeness requires a combination of effort and genetics/natural looks. I don’t think surgery is a deterrent unless it looks fake. + goosh69 and Whatsupandstuff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsupandstuff Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, ShortCutie7 said: Yes!!! Though I do recall seeing a thread on him that indicates that these pics are outdated, and there’s some information missing from his profile that would me (personally) from reaching out to him. Completely agree with this- I think handsomeness requires a combination of effort and genetics/natural looks. I don’t think surgery is a deterrent unless it looks fake. he looks look commercially handsome. appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Not a provider and not from NYC but Jacob Elordi is classically handsome. Act25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterisk Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Trick said: Not a provider and not from NYC but Jacob Elordi is classically handsome. For those unfamiliar. (IMHO, very handsome, with a very mutable face -- pulls off classically handsome well, but also works some looks that make you wonder how he got the role. Lots of angles, though, and the camera loves him!) LookingAround and Trick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamante Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) What “Classically Handsome” guys all have in common are chiseled jaws, deep set eyes and broad foreheads. To me they look like these guys: https://playgroundai.com/search?q=Brown+haired+guy+in+a+blue+shirt Edited January 24 by Diamante Hen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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